Annual Pass = Limited # of days for Fastpass+

[dismedvc]

We are going to DW for 8 days over Thanksgiving and have 3 fastpasses each for every one of those 8 days. Since we have the DVC PAP, we scheduled a 3 day trip to DW starting Dec 22nd.

The fastpass+ window just opened for the December 22 trip, but the MDE has a message saying "fastpass+ limit reached". I can make fastpass+ selections for the days in December, but then get a message that I must "trade" confirmed fastpass+ selections from a different day in order to confirm the new fastpass+ selections.

Has anyone else run into this limit?
It really devalues the PAP if you can only get 8 days of fastpasses.

 

[ParrotBill]

I think you are the first I've seen. I am not surprised there is a limit, but it would be nice if the limit were independent of resort stays. In other words, I think you should get 8 or 10 days to reserve in addition to any days linked to resort stays.

I also hope they measure how well people use the reserved fastpasses. I will bet that AP holders are less committed to their plans when not linked to a resort stay... (and I am an AP holder.)

 

[twinsouvenirs]

I also hope they measure how well people use the reserved fastpasses. I will bet that AP holders are less committed to their plans when not linked to a resort stay... (and I am an AP holder.)

That makes perfect sense. One of the things that will be good about the system, it seems, is that they can track behavior better for crowd/ride planning purposes since they will have more meaningful data as to usage.

 

[lorenni]

Would live to confirm this. Have a longer trip planned in May and a short trip in Jan. I'll not use FP+ in Jan if it eats away at the possible days available in May.

 

[DebbieB]

We are going to DW for 8 days over Thanksgiving and have 3 fastpasses each for every one of those 8 days. Since we have the DVC PAP, we scheduled a 3 day trip to DW starting Dec 22nd.

The fastpass+ window just opened for the December 22 trip, but the MDE has a message saying "fastpass+ limit reached". I can make fastpass+ selections for the days in December, but then get a message that I must "trade" confirmed fastpass+ selections from a different day in order to confirm the new fastpass+ selections.

Has anyone else run into this limit?
It really devalues the PAP if you can only get 8 days of fastpasses.

I ran into a situation with the PAP. I originally had a reservation for Nov 21 to 25. I made my FP+ selections. The next day, my boss told me a conference were were having may have a date change to that week. So I made a reservation for Nov 10 to 15 but didn't cancel the Nov 21 to 25 until I knew the change was final. After I linked the new reservation, I tried to do FP+ for Nov 10 to 15 and after a couple days it said I reached my limit. So since the change was pretty definite, I cancelled my FP+ for Nov 21 to 25 and it let me book the rest of Nov 10 to 15.

 

[BirdsOfPreyDave]

I'm going to cross my fingers that this is a cap to the number of "active" FastPass+ reservations, and not a straight annual cap. For example, once the OP's Thanksgiving trip is over and those FP+ reservations are used, it opens up that number of FP+ reservations for them to add to their December trip. Likewise, for a 14-day stay, once the first few days of the trip are over, it allows you to start adding additional FP+ reservations onto the latter days of the trip.

If it truely is 8 FP+ total in a year, then it certainly does enter the equation for buying an annual pass or not.

 

[dismedvc]

Just spent over an hour on the phone with MS.
First CM, Who was very nice, and trying very hard to be helpful, kept putting me on hold to check with someone else and then came back with answers I knew were wrong. (not in 60 day window etc,)

Finally after 45 minutes, and constant requests to be transferred to IT or a supervisor, I was transferred to a MS supervisor, Allison. Allison really seemed to care. She researched it and said everyone she talked to indicated that although Disney had considered limiting fasstpass+ days for AP & PAP, that had not been done. The people she talked with seemed to think the problem was I was trying to make fastpass+ "reservations" at exactly the 60 day mark, and if I tried again tomorrow, it should work.

I will keep you posted on the results.

 

[dismedvc]

I'm going to cross my fingers that this is a cap to the number of "active" FastPass+ reservations, and not a straight annual cap. For example, once the OP's Thanksgiving trip is over and those FP+ reservations are used, it opens up that number of FP+ reservations for them to add to their December trip. Likewise, for a 14-day stay, once the first few days of the trip are over, it allows you to start adding additional FP+ reservations onto the latter days of the trip.

If it truely is 8 FP+ total in a year, then it certainly does enter the equation for buying an annual pass or not.

Just posted an update at the same time you posted. However, what you said was the other possibility, that I might have to wait until our November trip ended before I can make fastpass+ "reservations" for the December trip.

 

[erionm]

The people she talked with seemed to think the problem was I was trying to make fastpass+ "reservations" at exactly the 60 day mark, and if I tried again tomorrow, it should work.

Not in my experience. I played around with this a week or so ago making FP+ selections for Oct dates. I could not make more than 7 days worth before I got the limit reached message.

 

[tjkraz]

Since we're talking about a Passholder, it does make some sense that FP+ can only be used for 7 or 8 days at at time. That may be how they intend to keep Passholders from grabbing a 7pm return on TSM or Soarin--every day of the year--just in case they happen to stop by the parks.

Right now FP+ is only available to those with resort reservations. Eventually Passholders will get their own MagicBands and 366 days of FP+ access. But it seems logical Disney would have to use some protections to keep those Passholders from grabbing dozens or hundreds of purely speculative ride reservations.

In OPs case, as soon as some of those FP+ days from the Thanksgiving trip have passed, FP+ reservations can be made for the December trip.

Purely speculative, of course...

 

[dismedvc]

Not in my experience. I played around with this a week or so ago making FP+ selections for Oct dates. I could not make more than 7 days worth before I got the limit reached message.

erionm:
Do you have an AP or DVC PAP?
Wondering if this is a systemic issue regardless of type of ticket, or only impacts AP or PAP holders

 

[erionm]

erionm:
Do you have an AP or DVC PAP?
Wondering if this is a systemic issue regardless to type of ticket, or only impacts AP or PAP holders

I have a FL Resident AP, but that should not make any difference. The only difference between a tourist AP, DVC AP and FL Resident AP is pricing, all benefits associated are the same.

 

[dansamy]

Not in my experience. I played around with this a week or so ago making FP+ selections for Oct dates. I could not make more than 7 days worth before I got the limit reached message.

Do people with 10 day tickets get limited to just 8 days of FP+?

 

[erionm]

Do people with 10 day tickets get limited to just 8 days of FP+?

If you have a multi-day MYW ticket, you should be able to make FP+ selections for the number of park days remaining on the ticket.

 

[n2mm]

If you have a multi-day MYW ticket, you should be able to make FP+ selections for the number of park days remaining on the ticket.

I have a pap and reached my limit at 14 days. I am here now and when I used the first few days I was able to make more fp selections for my 16 day trip. So it appears u can only be holding 14 days of fp at one time. Not sure why others reached a limit earlier.

 

[dansamy]

If you have a multi-day MYW ticket, you should be able to make FP+ selections for the number of park days remaining on the ticket.

Thank you! That's EXACTLY my point. Limiting my AP puts me at a disadvantage to regular ticket holders. It decreases the value of my pass & limits my ability to enjoy the park.

 

[tjkraz]

Thank you! That's EXACTLY my point. Limiting my AP puts me at a disadvantage to regular ticket holders. It decreases the value of my pass & limits my ability to enjoy the park.

You would be at a greater disadvantage if thousands--perhaps tens of thousands--of Passholders were all allowed to hold 60 daily FPs for Toy Story Mania at any point in time.

 

[WilsonFlyer]

You would be at a greater disadvantage if thousands--perhaps tens of thousands--of Passholders were all allowed to hold 60 daily FPs for Toy Story Mania at any point in time.

Hmmm... Interesting problem indeed. It will be interesting to see how this is addressed. It is going to be a challenge at best.

If they end up limiting FP+ to resort stays only, it's going to tick off a BUNCH of APHs, FL residents not withstanding.

 

[tjkraz]

If they end up limiting FP+ to resort stays only, it's going to tick off a BUNCH of APHs, FL residents not withstanding.

I don't see that happening. Right from the initial announcement, Tom Staggs did the "our Passholders are very important to us" song and dance. Passholders are getting MagicBands and I'm quite sure they will get FP+ benefits, too.

Problem is I don't think WDW can afford to give them access to hold 60 days worth of FP+ reservations at any time. There are most definitely people who would set aside a few minutes each week to catch-up on their FP+ reservations, making sure they always have something booked 50+ days out.

That said, I do think it would be fair for reserved hotel days to trump the AP. Even if they normally cap Passholders at 7 days (or 8, or 14, or whatever it may be), folks should be able to book more than the AP max if they have confirmed hotel reservations for more nights.

If an AP holder is spending 3 weeks at at WDW resort, give them the ability to book 3 weeks' worth of FP+ reservations.

 

[bbluvsdis]

We have an upcoming 13 day trip for which I had planned 8 days with FP+. We have DVC PAP. I just went into the system and was able to book a 9th day of FP+. I'm not sure why the limits seem to be different.
I can see it becoming a problem if local AP holders take up many days of FPs. I'm sure Disney has thought of this and will set some limits.