An Unpleasant Experience at Yak and Yeti CS

[SaintsManiac]

A couple of thoughts:

Disney could learn a lot about how things should go from studying Universal, but I could go on and on...

We stood up and held our tray while we ate at Casey’s, because of lack of seating. Didn’t bother us. We had skipped what was easily an hour wait thanks to mobile ordering.

I don’t want to share my table with strangers and it has NOTHING to do with “ignorance.” Man that comment rubs me the wrong way. I have my own personal reasons for it that really aren’t anyone’s business. You want to sit with strangers? Have at it! Don’t judge someone who feels differently. My goodness how rude.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Yes, perhaps Leaky Cauldron is optics in a way. I liked the fact that everyone waited in the line, you had to order and purchase SOMETHING and you couldn't sit until a staff member seated you (which gives you the impression that Uni CARES that you, at some point, get a table so you can sit and eat your food). At WDW, it feels like every man, woman, child for themselves (like it feels at parades and fireworks) and it becomes very stressful (for my family, anyway). It is very rare that we eat QS anymore and I only do it now because DS is 10 and can help me balance trays, get fixings, etc.

I totally get liking that way and for that place I do feel like it adds a bit of flair to it. Again I don't really know about the courtesy cups though if you could still sit down or not in the seating area if that's all you got.

I'm sure the way it is done affects how we all view it. For me I just sorta see it as I'm annoyed either way if there is no table there or not. Whether you paid or didn't pay doesn't mean that I can make you get up. Sure Universal can take on that task but that's up to them either way. I mean if you dawdle for quite a while after you eat you're doing the same thing as someone who is there to get out of the heat. Both are taking up a spot that another traveling group can sit at. Besides at that point there may not be much evidence that you had paid or not paid if you sit there long enough at Leaky Cauldron and the way the sitting room was laid out when you're at the spot to wait to be taken to a table you can only see X amount of the room so you don't really know the full situation of the seating area anyways (i.e. if someone is eating or has been finished for quite a while) unless you see them through the windos in the queue into the restaurant (like I did with that group).

And I can understand not wanting to juggle everything and just opt to do more TS; makes sense to me.

Parades I haven't done at WDW yet though I'm not looking forward to doing that whole dance when we go back with kids. Fireworks I feel you on that. As for Universal honestly I'm not sure their parade or nighttime show grabs people in like WDW.

I've seen monitoring at the Simpsons food court

I don't doubt it but that's not what I was saying. I have no doubt they have done so in the past and will do so in the future but they are not 100% doing so and they weren't when we ate there twice during our trip.

Even so, it is possible that there was active and evident monitoring in August but not in September. Generally crowds drop off (even if just a bit) through August as most schools go back into session by just after Labor Day (I say "most" because there are some systems that have "year-round school" where a portion of their school system is off at any given time while other portions are in session).

Yeah I did consider the crowd aspect; though I wasn't doubting the other poster at all regarding policing.

The crowd aspect to me only makes it that much more grey area.

The only time a person could "be in the wrong" is when there is policing. Otherwise it's all just opinion. Disney and Universal both selectively choose when they feel like they need to police and when they don't.

But I should also say that while the crowds were nil (due to Irma) the Simpsons area, Leaky Cauldron and Satul'i Canteen were all busy when we ate there. It wasn't like those were empty (other places were though). On the other hand the bar area of Three Broomsticks was the only busy part of Three Broomsticks with the rest being virtually empty.

 

[Roxyfire]

Yeah I did consider the crowd aspect; though I wasn't doubting the other poster at all regarding policing.

The crowd aspect to me only makes it that much more grey area.

The only time a person could "be in the wrong" is when there is policing. Otherwise it's all just opinion. Disney and Universal both selectively choose when they feel like they need to police and when they don't.

But I should also say that while the crowds were nil (due to Irma) the Simpsons area, Leaky Cauldron and Satul'i Canteen were all busy when we ate there. It wasn't like those were empty (other places were though). On the other hand the bar area of Three Broomsticks was the only busy part of Three Broomsticks with the rest being virtually empty.

I think it's probably simple, they police it when they need to. Because they cannot trust that people will do the right thing on their own. I've made the mistake of trying to eat at a busy park QS at lunch during the summer, won't be making that one again! Watching people try to hold 3 or 4 tables without having food of their own was comical, but frustrating as I was carrying a full tray. FWIW, I've always seen them "seating" people at both Wizarding World restaurants the last three times we've been. We always get a breakfast at Three Broomsticks and a lunch at Leaky Cauldron at least once per trip. I think those spots are prone to have people coming in, wandering about, and sitting there for ages just because of because they're a big fan of the movie OR they can't ride either of the rides. I bet the same would happen at Be Our Guest if it wasn't ADR only all day.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I think it's probably simple, they police it when they need to. Because they cannot trust that people will do the right thing on their own. I've made the mistake of trying to eat at a busy park QS at lunch during the summer, won't be making that one again! Watching people try to hold 3 or 4 tables without having food of their own was comical, but frustrating as I was carrying a full tray. FWIW, I've always seen them "seating" people at both Wizarding World restaurants the last three times we've been. We always get a breakfast at Three Broomsticks and a lunch at Leaky Cauldron at least once per trip. I think those spots are prone to have people coming in, wandering about, and sitting there for ages just because of because they're a big fan of the movie OR they can't ride either of the rides. I bet the same would happen at Be Our Guest if it wasn't ADR only all day.

Yeah see that's the thing with Three Broomsticks they were if I remember correctly doing it in 2011 (like I feel like I remember being escorted to a specific table with our food) but they weren't on 9/8 nor on 9/16 (or 9/17 can't remember at this exact moment the second day we went inside there). Like I said they weren't busy in there except for the bar area.

I totally agree that they police it when they need to though they would probably anticipate needing it in order to schedule another person(s) there but that to me still says a person is only "in the wrong" if they are policing. Otherwise WDW and Universal doesn't seem to care. I know the whole entire thoughtprocess for most is moot if there are enough tables and the crowds aren't there but still if you say you have a problem with people doing it period you woud have a problem with it at all times even if there are plentiful amount of tables. Otherwise it's just this scenario I have an issue with it and this time I don't type thing which I get as well.

 

[Kaytie]

If for instance Leaky Cauldron is completely full..you're going to wait to sit down..your food may even be ready before you are able to sit down..is that any different than tables being occupied and your whole group is with you with their food and now you have no place to sit?

When everybody follows the same procedure - order food, get food, occupy table, eat food - your food won't be ready before a table is.

 

[Roxyfire]

I totally agree that they police it when they need to though they would probably anticipate needing it in order to schedule another person(s) there but that to me still says a person is only "in the wrong" if they are policing.

Agreed. And what amount is "enough" to be following the guideline? If we buy one drink and share it, sitting at a seat are we deserving enough? I probably wouldn't at a peak time but I certainly have at 2 or 3 pm. Even in what I'd consider wholesome and family oriented places, I've witnessed very unwholesome behavior by grown adults, as I'm sure all of us have. People have different levels of considerate and I've come to learn we cannot expect others feel the same way. I think if people would remember those in "the general public" are mostly out for themselves (not in a negative way but realistically) they might be happier and more pleasantly surprised when people are cool with one another.

 

[FortForever]

On our last trip, we had a young girl of about 5 years old, and her mom join us at a table. The mom didn't speak English. The little girl politely asked us if these seats were taken. I assured her they were free to take, which they did, and enjoyed a meal with us.

Interestingly, there were quite a few other tables available. I suppose other places in the world people are much more considerate, and the mom didn't want to take up a whole table for just the two of them. We had a lovely meal together and I was so glad they joined us.

 

[Farro]

A couple of thoughts:

Disney could learn a lot about how things should go from studying Universal, but I could go on and on...

We stood up and held our tray while we ate at Casey’s, because of lack of seating. Didn’t bother us. We had skipped what was easily an hour wait thanks to mobile ordering.

I don’t want to share my table with strangers and it has NOTHING to do with “ignorance.” Man that comment rubs me the wrong way. I have my own personal reasons for it that really aren’t anyone’s business. You want to sit with strangers? Have at it! Don’t judge someone who feels differently. My goodness how rude.

I'm not going to apologize if it bothers you. It bothers me that people see other people standing with food, absolutely nowhere to sit, in need of table and won't share with them because they simply don't want to. That rubs me the wrong way. Rude.

I guess I have to say again, people are perhaps ignorant (lacking knowledge, information, or awareness about something in particular) of the fact there is nowhere for the people to sit. If you know they have nowhere to sit, but say no because you don't want to sit with strangers, selfish.

I find it truly bizarre that people actually won't share tables with strangers in crowded situations. Why? They probably don't want to talk to you either, they just want a place to sit and eat.

 

[SaintsManiac]

I'm not going to apologize if it bothers you. It bothers me that people see other people standing with food, absolutely nowhere to sit, in need of table and won't share with them because they simply don't want to. That rubs me the wrong way. Rude.

I guess I have to say again, people are perhaps ignorant (lacking knowledge, information, or awareness about something in particular) of the fact there is nowhere for the people to sit. If you know they have nowhere to sit, but say no because you don't want to sit with strangers, selfish.

I find it truly bizarre that people actually won't share tables with strangers in crowded situations. Why? They probably don't want to talk to you either, they just want a place to sit and eat.

I’m glad you consider yourself judge and jury of social situations and how people should behave.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I'm not going to apologize if it bothers you. It bothers me that people see other people standing with food, absolutely nowhere to sit, in need of table and won't share with them because they simply don't want to. That rubs me the wrong way. Rude.

I guess I have to say again, people are perhaps ignorant (lacking knowledge, information, or awareness about something in particular) of the fact there is nowhere for the people to sit. If you know they have nowhere to sit, but say no because you don't want to sit with strangers, selfish.

On the flipside for me personally if I ask to sit down and the person says no I don't immediately think they are selfish or ignorant I just move on and try to find somewhere else to sit or find another way to work out a way to eat my food.

Not arguing here just giving my perspective. There's no issue if you think they are selfish or ignorant it's just not what I think of. I don't really think ill thoughts of the person I just move on.

Honestly what actually aggravates me so much more is not that there aren't enough tables to sit at it's if an establishment has plenty of tables and yet for a variety of reasons (short staff, policy, etc) won't sit you. However, admittedly this point I'm not necessarily speaking about WDW or Universal just as a general comment.

 

[Farro]

I’m glad you consider yourself judge and jury of social situations and how people should behave.

It's called an opinion. And we all have them. And you are judging my opinion.

You think it's okay, I don't.

 

[Farro]

On the flipside for me personally if I ask to sit down and the person says no I don't immediately think they are selfish or ignorant I just move on and try to find somewhere else to sit or find another way to work out a way to eat my food.

Not arguing here just giving my perspective. There's no issue if you think they are selfish or ignorant it's just not what I think of. I don't really think ill thoughts of the person I just move on.

Honestly what actually aggravates me so much more is not that there aren't enough tables to sit at it's if an establishment has plenty of tables and yet for a variety of reasons (short staff, policy, etc) won't sit you. However, admittedly this point I'm not necessarily speaking about WDW or Universal just as a general comment.

I understand what you are saying. And quite frankly, I find most people don't say no, and in fact are quite friendly. But if they did say no, yes I freely admit I judge (silently) because it's just seems so odd to me. Then I move on and don't think about it again.
Until it's a topic on a message board!

 

[SaintsManiac]

It's called an opinion. And we all have them. And you are judging my opinion.

You think it's okay, I don't.

You are judging and generalizing every single person who doesn’t want to share a table with strangers. You don’t care why they don’t want to. You straight up called all of them selfish.

That’s more than an opinion.

Now luckily I don’t put my family in a position where we would be asked such a question and I more than do my part of being helpful and kind to people in all situations. However, you’ve decided on a snap judgment that I’m selfish. Thanks for that.

 

[Jennasis]

You are judging and generalizing every single person who doesn’t want to share a table with strangers. You don’t care why they don’t want to. You straight up called all of them selfish.

That’s more than an opinion.

Now luckily I don’t put my family in a position where we would be asked such a question and I more than do my part of being helpful and kind to people in all situations. However, you’ve decided on a snap judgment that I’m selfish. Thanks for that.

I've got several friends and family members with special needs individuals who may not handle strangers sitting at the table well.

 

[Farro]

You are judging and generalizing every single person who doesn’t want to share a table with strangers. You don’t care why they don’t want to. You straight up called all of them selfish.

That’s more than an opinion.

Now luckily I don’t put my family in a position where we would be asked such a question and I more than do my part of being helpful and kind to people in all situations. However, you’ve decided on a snap judgment that I’m selfish. Thanks for that.

If you have your reasons why you won't share with a stranger, they are your own and I don't want to know them.
We aren't going to see eye to eye here, so let's stop.

 

[Farro]

I've got several friends and family members with special needs individuals who may not handle strangers sitting at the table well.

It's a message board and I'm speaking in generalites. I'm not going to post all the "exceptions to the rule" situations of why someone doesn't want to sit with strangers. Because the majority of cases won't be what you just described.

Sorry everyone if it's an unpopular opinion, but I think it's rude*** not to share a table with people who need it at a counter service restaurant with nowhere to sit.

***not speaking to a situation Jennasis mentioned.

 

[SaintsManiac]

I've got several friends and family members with special needs individuals who may not handle strangers sitting at the table well.

This is just one of many reasons I am thinking of.

 

[Jennasis]

It's a message board and I'm speaking in generalites. I'm not going to post all the "exceptions to the rule" situations of why someone doesn't want to sit with strangers. Because the majority of cases won't be what you just described.

Sorry everyone if it's an unpopular opinion, but I think it's rude*** not to share a table with people who need it at a counter service restaurant with nowhere to sit.

***not speaking to a situation Jennasis mentioned.

But you would never know why someone said "no" when you asked to sit with them. So rather than write them and everyone else who does this off as jerks, rude, selfish etc...perhaps assume there is a valid reason (and it is my opinion that being an introvert/shy/or just not into hanging with strangers is also a valid reason).

On the flip side, maybe people sitting and eating with open seats see someone walking around looking for an open table and think "look at those jerks...too good to ask to sit with us!" LOL tongue firmly in cheek.

 

[Farro]

But you would never know why someone said "no" when you asked to sit with them. So rather than write them and everyone else who does this off as jerks, rude, selfish etc...perhaps assume there is a valid reason (and it is my opinion that being an introvert/shy/or just not into hanging with strangers is also a valid reason).

On the flip side, maybe people sitting and eating with open seats see someone walking around looking for an open table and think "look at those jerks...too good to ask to sit with us!" LOL tongue firmly in cheek.

No, of course I wouldn't know. But I know. Obviously, some will have reasons I would understand, but the majority of reasons would be something along the lines of "I don't like small talk", "I don't like strangers" or whatever. For me (only speaking of me), those aren't valid reasons to deny your extra seating to someone who needs it. Do I agree that being introverted, not liking strangers is a great reason not to book the German restaurant? Yes, absolutely! My boyfriend would never go there willingly - talk about hating small talk...but he's okay sharing tables when needed. He eats faster though!

But again, that's the way I see it. Nobody else has to. It's not like I'm saying anything to these people.
Honestly, I can't even think of the last time it happened to us. We shared quite a few tables last October. It wasn't until this thread that I was reminded that there are people who wouldn't say yes.

 

[DisneyWishes14]

I think it's probably simple, they police it when they need to. Because they cannot trust that people will do the right thing on their own. I've made the mistake of trying to eat at a busy park QS at lunch during the summer, won't be making that one again! Watching people try to hold 3 or 4 tables without having food of their own was comical, but frustrating as I was carrying a full tray. FWIW, I've always seen them "seating" people at both Wizarding World restaurants the last three times we've been. We always get a breakfast at Three Broomsticks and a lunch at Leaky Cauldron at least once per trip. I think those spots are prone to have people coming in, wandering about, and sitting there for ages just because of because they're a big fan of the movie OR they can't ride either of the rides. I bet the same would happen at Be Our Guest if it wasn't ADR only all day.

OMG, could you IMAGINE what BOG would look like at breakfast and lunch if they didn't have an ordering and seating procedure in there!!!!