American Idol Season 9 Thread

[daughtersrus]

Did the girl who played the harmonica and guitar make it through?

Yes

 

[mandy200587]

Tim wasn't in the ones who did Lady Gaga. I'm not sure whose group he was in 100%

 

[KiKi Mouse]

I really don't get some of their top 24 choices.

I thought for sure Thaddeus would go through as he was entertaining and good. He is better than a few of the other guys that went through.
As for Bowersox?? Hippie girl with harmonica...ugh...just looking at her makes me itchy. She can sing but she is folk festival material not Idol material.

 

[Robinrs]

The Top 24 ranked by Vote For the Worst:...

http://www.votefortheworst.com/blogs/thefunnystone/20100217/ranking_top_24_their_vftw_potential


He ranks the total lack of luster group between B - F. I agree with one point, they'd better step it up if they want to keep their numbers up. I suspect another Antonella type expose a-coming, because that group is NOT worth giving up Lost for...

 

[mandy200587]

Simon is engaged, the girl is the head of the makeup department on the show. She's 36.

 

[Robinrs]

Mandy:

Does your friend who knows Todrick know anything about the OZ the Musical "scam"? Is it true or just another rumor?

 

[agnes!]

In my opinion it seems that the guy should perhaps be in jail or paying restitution. I don't care if he really just "meant well", he (individually) or his legal entities (that he wholly and/or partly had an interest in) have stolen thousands of dollars from people for goods and services these folks have never received.

Some interesting tidbits...
VFTW has a detailed expose here: http://www.votefortheworst.com/todrick_hall
Read some of the comments there as well, they are quite illuminating.

The "Oz the Musical" website/domain name expired on January 20th:
http://ozthemusical.com/

Even with all the cancellations, the production was having auditions as late as November 2009:
http://www.broadwayworld.com/people/news/Todrick_D._Hall/

Comments from parents from 7 & 8 weeks ago who paid money and have received nothing for it here:
http://www.broadwayworld.com/articl...s_Held_1119_At_Indiana_Dance_Academy_20091116


Todrick C. Hall is quoted (in an article originally posted by Fox in Tampa http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/local/polk/lakeland_oz_musical_canceled_061109, and also subsequently quoted in the VFTW article)
as saying that the show was scheduled in 30 cities 'but unfortunately three or four of the cities' had to be canceled. It is evident that the money from all those cancelled shows has been spent ON SOMETHING ELSE since he admits at firstcoastnews.com that he will put on another play this fall and the proceeds will be used to reimburse the families of 'Oz The Musical'.
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=142763&catid=3

The firstcoastnew page also has a video of the August '09 news report. This news clip contains the apparent origination at 00:33 of a parent's mis-statement that "in Tennessee that he's collected 3000 families' money". This is untrue, as Hall himself admits in another news clip that they cast a total of 3000 kids nationwide...but of course, at $50 to $75 a head...that does add up to at least $150,000 - $225,000.


The cancellation of Nashville's show in June made the TV news there. The producers told some parents the show was going to be produced at The Grand Ol' Opry or at TPAC in downtown, though neither venue had been booked or even contacted. What's worse is after the children auditioned, the parents were only then told about the $50-$75 performance fees that were supposed to be for the costumes and for rehearsal space. Even though the costumes consist mainly of T-Shirts, even though the rehearsal spaces were to have been donated for FREE by various dance studios.
Finally, though the producers were featuring Diana DiGarmo in their various materials throughout much of the year, (as reported elsewhere) she told the Nashville TV news station that she was never a part of the national tour. The video of the news report seems to show an unknown production of the show, and while it is cute (as in awwwww, aren't those kids cuuuuuuute), it is certainly not up to the level of a national tour, even a bus-&-truck non-union tour.
http://www.newschannel5.com/Global/story.asp?S=10562143

So far, using the VFTW article plus other sources, the actual # of cancellations seems to be up to:
Muskegon, MI(possibly the Kalamazoo show location)
Pittsburgh, PA(unknown show location, might be one of the shows in Ohio)
Lakeland, FL
Tampa, FL
Sarasota, FL
Jacksonville, FL(07/09 and possibly 05/09 - "Oz" show cancelled, this show's cancellation was reported on in 08/09 @ firstcoastnews.com)
Nashville, TN
Indianapolis, IN
Waco, TX
Corpus Christi, TX
Lubbock, TX (also bonus location of another cancelled Todrick C. Hall production 'CinderellaROCK' - 07/09 - from Lubbockonline.Com)
Ohio (don't know which city, perhaps the Cicero or Cleveland shows were canceled?) [A show or possibly shows were canceled in Ohio according to NewsChannel 6 out of Indianapolis http://www.theindychannel.com/news/21776891/detail.html]

So, I have to wonder... how many cancellations was it? Just the supposed 3 or 4 or the reality of (at last count) of at least 9 different venues?
I have to wonder... how many families have actually lost their "performance fee" with no performance?
And I really have to wonder...why does Mr. Hall leave so much bad financial news for others in his wake?

agnes!

ETA: Ok, maybe I sounded harsh, sorry about that. It's just that someone owes these parents their money back. Did they hand it over perhaps too willingly? Maybe, but the fact remains that many of them have received nothing for their $50 or $75. If it's not Mr. Hall then it should be whoever it was that actually had their mitts on all those parents' money...maybe that Greg Money from P.I. Solutions in Texas?

 

[mandy200587]

Okay first off he is working his butt off to pay back those kids, he's one person doing it. He wasn't involved with the money aspect of it.

 

[flamom]

chris is disputing what Idol claims

http://www.news-press.com/article/2...--contestant---I-just-want-the-spot-I-earned-

 

[surfergirl602]

An interesting read I just saw on People:

http://tvwatch.people.com/2010/02/18/idol-shakeup-tim-urban-replaces-chris-golightly-in-top-24/

 

[agnes!]

Okay first off he is working his butt off to pay back those kids, he's one person doing it. He wasn't involved with the money aspect of it.

I think it's great that he's trying to pay all these people back, the problem apparently is the other production folks who took care of the money? Then *they* should be the ones to pay those parents their $50 or $75. Why didn't he yank away the rights to his music or pull out of the tour completely? He made the unfortunate decision to allow his name to be associated with the tour as problems continued to mount. It's just that there's been so much bad news connected with this tour from earlier in 2009, so many people are upset...
He probably is a great guy, but at the very least he has trusted the wrong people for far too long. Even if he is kept on at AI he could possibly lose a lot of potential votes because of this financial unpleasantness.

He's not the first performer to make bad money decisions, I guess he can join the line right behind Willie Nelson et al. I just hope he's able to make good on his promises and move past all this.

agnes!

 

[happygirl]

chris is disputing what Idol claims

http://www.news-press.com/article/2...--contestant---I-just-want-the-spot-I-earned-

It sounds like they are backtracking first saying he was booted for having a contract. Then they got proof that wasn't true,now they are saying that he got booted because he didn't tell them about the contract. They need to make up there minds and stick to one reason or another.

I personally say let him compete along with the other guy.

 

[Kirby]

Yes

Yay!

 

[gometros]

I think I missed something. I get that Chris Golightly got dropped, but did Todrick also get dropped?

 

[agnes!]

I think I missed something. I get that Chris Golightly got dropped, but did Todrick also get dropped?

No, Mr. Hall hasn't. There is a lot of controversy about him right now because he was associated with a production called "Oz, the Musical" (as writer and director) that had many money issues. The producers owe a lot of parents in various states production fees paid for performances that never took place.

Curiouser and curiouser... Chris Golightly is now saying that the 'under-contract' reason AI gave for dropping him is totally bogus.

agnes!

 

[Robinrs]

I think it's great that he's trying to pay all these people back, the problem apparently is the other production folks who took care of the money? Then *they* should be the ones to pay those parents their $50 or $75. Why didn't he yank away the rights to his music or pull out of the tour completely? He made the unfortunate decision to allow his name to be associated with the tour as problems continued to mount. It's just that there's been so much bad news connected with this tour from earlier in 2009, so many people are upset...
He probably is a great guy, but at the very least he has trusted the wrong people for far too long. Even if he is kept on at AI he could possibly lose a lot of potential votes because of this financial unpleasantness.

He's not the first performer to make bad money decisions, I guess he can join the line right behind Willie Nelson et al. I just hope he's able to make good on his promises and move past all this.

agnes!

I totally agree.

I also think his butt should've been working on getting this fixed and the entire mess should've been resolved before he showed up on natl TV singing for his supper.

People have been let go from AI for much less, who is he kissing?

 

[Robinrs]

People have been let go from AI for much less, who is he kissing?

Sorry I couldn't RESIST!!!!!

 

[Cogswel_Cogs]

So why didn't Thadius make it in? They made it look like he was the hardest decision?

 

[Robinrs]

So why didn't Thadius make it in? They made it look like he was the hardest decision?

Because talent is not as important as cheaters, Baby Daddies and attitude...

 

[GoofyforDisney3]

Sorry I couldn't RESIST!!!!!

That is funny!