Amazing Race, Family Edition. *Official DiscussionThread*

glass-slipper said:
But, the way the people act, dress, and what they say IS part of the show. it's a reality show about people and how they handle situations. It is human nature for viewers to voice their opinion about the teams, that is what makes the show interesting. I think the fact that the teams are people whom we don't know, and that it is a just a TV show ,is why some feel they can say it they way they see it without worrying about being PC. Does that make sense?


Absolutely makes sense. I agree that observations and commenting on them are part of the show. However, making the personal, moral, judgemental comments about those observations is what gets me. Say what you see, say if you don't agree with it or don't care for it, but why take it to the next level? It just makes no sense to me.
 
SRUAlmn said:
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It is a knock on their lifestyle when people are saying that the daughters are sleezy and that the mother is acting like a child and that they are white trash. Those are attacks on their assumed lifestyle.

It just bothers me that these threads always turn into personal attacks on people that none of us know. Why can't we just comment on the show itself? If you don't like something they said on the show, fine, say so! If you think the girls shorts are too short, fine, say so! But why do we have to take it to the next level? Why can't we just say 'the girls shorts are too short and it bothers me.' Why does it have to turn into 'those girls are so trashy.'

Honestly? Because it's fun to pick on reality TV show contestants. It's all just in fun, no ones insulting them to their faces, it's just a thread on a message board. I'm not trying to pick on you or anything but I think you might be taking the comments people are making too seriously. It happens with every Reality TV show, there are always villians, heroes, the funny people, the cocky etc...., it's what makes the shows so entertaining.

Just a warning if you if you think this thread is mean, don't ever go to TWOP.
 
SRUAlmn said:
IIt is a knock on their lifestyle when people are saying that the daughters are sleezy and that the mother is acting like a child and that they are white trash. Those are attacks on their assumed lifestyle.

I think you are reading too much into it. While the "white trash" would be a lifestyle slam....the other two are present observations regardless of how they live their lives at home. This is how they are displaying themselves on television.
 

SRUAlmn said:
Absolutely makes sense. I agree that observations and commenting on them are part of the show. However, making the personal, moral, judgemental comments about those observations is what gets me. Say what you see, say if you don't agree with it or don't care for it, but why take it to the next level? It just makes no sense to me.


Did I miss something--who's taking it to the next level?

You aren't being bashed. I thought we were discussing the Weavers.

I had empathy for them at the beginning of the season. The way they act makes it hard to feel sorry for them--and for a game for a million dollars...they haven't shown to be worthy other than they experienced tragedy. To be blunt--this isn't extreme home makeover or three wishes--it is a race. They've done nothing to explain themselves and when empathized with by other teams--it was immediately talked ill about (and the camera's did show the other teams feeling bad for them--the evidence is on tape!).

Noone is bashing you.

The family is not liked--and while we may feel sorry for them...it doesn't make it acceptable for them to behave the way they are. They are not the first religoius players, nor will they be the last.

They are not the first dealing with tragedy coming into the race (one lost her brother in 9/11 and another one had a friend and her roommate who were brutally murdered). Those players didn't use it as a crutch though.
 
SRUAlmn said:
I was just asking for some understanding and empathy for what they are going through.

If there was a direct link to what they have been/going though then they would have my support. For example, if the AR folks chose race track challanges AFTER having cast the Weavers on the show, I would be right there thinking the AR folks did wrong.

That said, I haven't seen any Weaver behavior that can be directly linked to anything but them choosing to behave that way.
 
Lisa loves Pooh said:
Did I miss something--who's taking it to the next level?

You aren't being bashed. I thought we were discussing the Weavers.

I had empathy for them at the beginning of the season. The way they act makes it hard to feel sorry for them--and for a game for a million dollars...they haven't shown to be worthy other than they experienced tragedy. To be blunt--this isn't extreme home makeover or three wishes--it is a race. They've done nothing to explain themselves and when empathized with by other teams--it was immediately talked ill about (and the camera's did show the other teams feeling bad for them--the evidence is on tape!).

Noone is bashing you.

The family is not liked--and while we may feel sorry for them...it doesn't make it acceptable for them to behave the way they are. They are not the first religoius players, nor will they be the last.

They are not the first dealing with tragedy coming into the race (one lost her brother in 9/11 and another one had a friend and her roommate who were brutally murdered). Those players didn't use it as a crutch though.

I never said anyone was bashing me. I meant bash away at the Weavers. I'm not saying they are using it as a crutch. I'm just asking people to be a little more understanding. I don't agree with or support what they're doing. I just wish people would try to empathize a little more.

That said, I haven't seen any Weaver behavior that can be directly linked to anything but them choosing to behave that way.

I have lost a parent as a teenager and I see behavior that is directly related to it. If you've never been there, you don't know!
 
SRUAlmn said:
I have lost a parent as a teenager and I see behavior that is directly related to it. If you've never been there, you don't know!

I see some behavior I did as a teenager though I didn't lose a parent. I had A LOT of other crap going on though in my life. It didn't make it appropriate nor did it make it excusable.

I can empathize with the family--but I'm not going to excuse their behavior for any reason. They are a VERY strong team. It shows that they are fighters and strong people. Their weakness is their attitude--and the foundation for that was most likely set well before the father's death. What would mom really have to lose if she just tried to tell her children the appropriate thing to do.

I seem to recall with the other teenagers on the show--that their behavior wasn't excused at all. Thinking specifically of the New Orleans family where the teens talked bad about the step-mom. Inexcusable by posters here--but do we know the background....do we know where their birthmom is? No we don't. As a child of divorce--I could empathize with them. However--they were still brats and the behavior was inexcusable regardless of the circumstance.
 
Lisa loves Pooh said:
I see some behavior I did as a teenager though I didn't lose a parent. I had A LOT of other crap going on though in my life. It didn't make it appropriate nor did it make it excusable.

I can empathize with the family--but I'm not going to excuse their behavior for any reason. They are a VERY strong team. It shows that they are fighters and strong people. Their weakness is their attitude--and the foundation for that was most likely set well before the father's death. What would mom really have to lose if she just tried to tell her children the appropriate thing to do.

I seem to recall with the other teenagers on the show--that their behavior wasn't excused at all. Thinking specifically of the New Orleans family where the teens talked bad about the step-mom. Inexcusable by posters here--but do we know the background....do we know where their birthmom is? No we don't. As a child of divorce--I could empathize with them. However--they were still brats and the behavior was inexcusable regardless of the circumstance.

And we agree!

I am not excusing the behavior either, just explaining that some of it can stem from that, not an excuse, doesn't make it right, just showing another viewpoint.
 
cardaway said:
I was just asking for some understanding and empathy for what they are going through.

I believe the Godlewski's tried to give them understanding and empathy and they turned around and stabbed them in the back.

I did feel sorry for them at first and through out the race when they did the tough challenges for them, but it leaves a bitter feeling when they have behaved in the ways they have.

If you watch the video clips and cbs.com they show the Godlewski's talking about how the girls, Rachel and Rebecca seem like very nice girls but it's the mother who is behaving immature and not acting like a mother. What the girls need is someone to be their parent not another friend. They have already lost the backbone of the family, the mother should realize that they can't lose the other.
 
corie161 said:
If you watch the video clips and cbs.com they show the Godlewski's talking about how the girls, Rachel and Rebecca seem like very nice girls but it's the mother who is behaving immature and not acting like a mother. What the girls need is someone to be their parent not another friend. They have already lost the backbone of the family, the mother should realize that they can't lose the other.

Good point--my mom struggled with this a lot--as lots of single moms do. I do imagine a bit more tough for a widowed mom...but my moms relationships didn't exactly end the way she planned either. It makes it very confusing as the child--b/c you try to get away with so much--and then can't understand when the parenting switch is flipped back on. It's like--hey wait a minute...she was cool a minute ago.
 
People who participate on reality shows are fully aware what they are doing and are opening themselves up to the comments of the viewing audience. Yes sometimes they are shown in a differant light they then normally are due to editing plus the pressures of the actual race itself may bring out a differant side(or a hidden side) of how that person actually is. But.....the weavers are just the most unchristian people - the sisters tried to comfort them several times and were constantly rebuffed. plus the weavers even made fun of strangers(even the son did it). They have to lose - it really would upset me to see them win the money.
 
Bumping up for tonight!
Continuation of last weeks episode!!
 
Lisa loves Pooh said:
Yep--I believe next week is the finale. They had a promo that mentioned only 2 episodes left.

I looked ahead on my TIVO and next weeks is 2 hours long so Im guessing it is the final!
 
I haven't even seen the episode yet - but I'm so disgusted at the Florida family because of the preview of tonight. I might just throw something at the TV.

The preview shows them getting pulled over by the police and immediately the people in the back seat are clicking on their seatbelts :rolleyes2

I hope they get nailed for seat belt infraction plus whatever they did and they are delayed so they can't catch up!!

It would serve them right. Geez they should know better - I know their Dad wasn't killed in a car, but he knew cars and they should know how serious it is to wear their seatbelts ALWAYS!!!!
 
Lisa loves Pooh said:
If they lie and then are snarky about it--they should realize that that isn't Christian.

;)


Why would this incident suddenly show them the light, when none of their other actions have? ;) :rotfl:
 















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