Am I the Only One Who Likes Walmart?

I really wouldn't know if I liked it or not.

There isn't one near me. The closest one is 18 miles away or so. I've been to Wall-Mart only a few times in my life, so I don't really have a long-term relationship with them!



I went once to buy a special Star Wars toy for a grown friend. They were out.

Then, I went on my way home from Disneyland as they carried the bikes that my "children" in the family we adopted for Christmas wanted. The staff was friendly and very happy I didn't want the bikes assembled. The Wall-mart was just off the freeway so that was great all around.
 
Count me in as someone who HATES Walmart. All you need to do is watch the movie "The high cost of Low Prices". You'll see just a little of why I hate corporate, China selling Walmart so much.
Their business practices more resemble the Mafia than a reputable business.

This is one main reason I don't give them my business. Many years ago when I would go on a very rare occasion (like when on vacation), I nearly always had a bad experience there. So, I avoid them altogether. I would rather pay a few bucks more and go elsewhere (even when I'm on a budget).
 
Oh, and Most of the good things Walmart does, their employees have done. The Sam Walton family does a LOT less than they could given their wealth. Most of the time it's the lower level employees, NOT the corporate overseers who have made the sacrifices for the need at hand.

Who is John Galt?
 

My family does not shop at Walmart by choice.

My DH works in the grocery industry so we have insider knowledge on how Walmart operates. Walmart is a corporate bully. It is such a large company that it can do basically whatever it wants. For example if a grocery chain wants to sell Frito Lay chips they will negociate with Frito Lay and buy the chips for let's say $1.00 a bag. Walmart doesn't negociate - they go to Frito Lay and say we'll pay $.40 a bag - take it or leave it and because Walmart is so huge a lot of vendors take it.

Then Walmart sells their products at a discount but they are still making more of a profit margin than other retailers because of what they got the items for.

Since Super Walmarts have moved into Florida both Winn Dixie and Albertsons have been basically put out of business. It's very sad and I will not support it.

With all the profit Walmart is making they can afford to keep their stores cleaner, better staffed and they can pay their employees better but they don't. :sad2: Where is all that profit going?

Ok, please don't flame me, but I've NEVER understood this "corporate bully" opinion as a reason to not shop there. Companies don't have to sell their product to Wal-Mart if they don't want to, yet they continue to do it. Let's face it...Wal-Mart moves product because it has the lowest prices. Why does this make Wal-Mart bad? They manage to have the lowest prices around...and if they aren't, then they price match!
To me it seems that all the companies that AREN'T Wal-mart are just mad that they aren't in the shoes Wal-mart is being the #1 retailer. Target COULD adapt their corporate ways to the same as Wal-Mart and so could KMart etc...but they choose not to and claim they are "better than that" etc...well that's fine. I refuse to spend more money on an item when I can buy it for less at Wal-Mart. Why would you choose to pay more for the same item?

No one forces people to work at Wal-Mart either, and our local Wal-Mart pays above minimum wage. If it's such a bad place to work then DON"T WORK THERE!

And as far as where all the profits are going?? Probably the same place that 99% of all profits of a company go...right into the pockets of the top 2% of management.
 
I live in a "rust Belt" city of about 65,000, down from 85,000. We have two Super Walmarts with both being clean and nice. The low prices help many people in this city. I live within 1/2 mile of one Walmart and go there about 3 times per week.
 
And as far as where all the profits are going?? Probably the same place that 99% of all profits of a company go...right into the pockets of the top 2% of management.

You have a point there. Target and KMart are no better with taking money away from the local economy. Which is one of the reasons I do not refuse to shop at WM.

Now I did purposely go and buy Sims3 at Gamestop however at the time I was doing it I was wondering where those dollars will go.

I know Austin TX is a great model for local and even fought Barnes and Nobel from coming to their town.
 
To me it seems that all the companies that AREN'T Wal-mart are just mad that they aren't in the shoes Wal-mart is being the #1 retailer.
I don't know of any competitors that are "mad" about Walmart. The anger you see is almost exclusively from people, not companies. Sure the competitors would rather not have the aggressive competition, and perhaps the competitors help people who have a moral objection to what Walmart represents, but all the inspiration and all the anger -- that's from people, not from competitors. The competitors are companies themselves, and understand the reality very well, and generally operate in the best interests of their owners -- in other words, they don't let emotions, like anger, drive them. People have no such compunctions.

So fixing your comment to be directed at people instead of at companies, I agree, there are a lot of people who are "mad" at Walmart for how it operates and the effect it has on their communities. I don't think that they would even deny that, so I'm not sure what your point is. People have a right to be upset about these things, don't they? :confused3

Personally, I don't think that that means that Walmart shouldn't be able to operate that way. I think people who are upset about Walmart's impact should be voting with their dollars and trying to get others around them to adopt the same philosophy, of buying American-made products even if it costs you more, of buying from retailers who pay their employees more even if it costs you more, etc. The only real culprit, if there must be one, in all of this is those consumers who put their own personal financial security above that of others. However, it is reasonable for them (including, of course, you, specifically) to do that, isn't it?

Why would you choose to pay more for the same item?
See above for the reason.

No one forces people to work at Wal-Mart either, and our local Wal-Mart pays above minimum wage. If it's such a bad place to work then DON"T WORK THERE!
Again, without agreeing with those who hold this perspective, I think it is important to explain the point that you may have overlooked from their criticisms: It isn't that Walmart is an especially bad place to work, or that the jobs that the folks who work there do are more difficult than they should be, or lower paid than they should be, based on what those jobs are. The criticism is that Walmart is designed especially to foster lower-paying jobs at the expense of higher-paying jobs. In a way, the Walmart way is more efficient (from an operational standpoint), because they can accomplish the same end (sales) with less resources (lower wages). The negative impact on the value of labor, overall, in any region where Walmart operates, is thereby depressed. In other words, Walmart's efficiency indirectly lowers base wages for unskilled workers, overall.

There is one other impact of this, which I alluded to in my earlier message: As a result of this efficiency, you are going to encounter less knowledgeable staff to assist you with your purchases, especially in the high-tech area. This is absolutely reasonable: If you're a smart sales person, and know the products, are you going to work for the store that pays you more, or the store that pays you less? The effect of that is buffered, though, by Walmart running all the other retailers out of business. That's another source of criticism.

Note again, please, that I'm just explaining these criticisms. I do not agree with them.

And as far as where all the profits are going?? Probably the same place that 99% of all profits of a company go...right into the pockets of the top 2% of management.
Utterly ridiculous. 100% of all profits from the company go to 100% of the owners of the company, in proportion to their ownership interest. That's the law. To suggest otherwise is just FUD.
 
I hate WalMart. Unless I'm out of town and it's the only place I can find and absolutely need to go in, I will avoid it like the plague. Ugh...I dispise it.

I can NEVER find what I want, no one EVER helps me. Most of the time the people in the parking lot are complete morons, I have no idea what the phenomenon is that when I drive into a WalMart parking lot there is always someone walking down the middle of the row...HELLO! you're in a parking lot, cars kill!

ETA: I don't hate WalMart because they drive people out, etc...that's Capitalism. I dislike WalMart because I don't agree with saving a buck for awful service. Plus, most WalMarts *feel* dirty to me. I would rather go somewhere that does charge a little more but I get better service, that is more valuable to me. And that is my choice.
 
I can't stand WalMart. Almost every WalMart I've ever been in is a disaster area (with the exception of the one in Mt. Holly), starting with the parking lot. Crowded, trashy aisles and items not where they should be. It makes for a frustrating shopping trip.

However, I do like their garden shop and will go there for my garden stuff.
 
I don't have a major problem with Wal-Mart.

I find the people helpful enough, although I don't have an expectation that they are going to be helpful like employees in an exclusive woman's clothing store would be.

Generally, I find if I approach people in a nice manner, I do OK. And those few that are cranky no matter what...well, I say a little prayer for them for some happiness in their life and thank my lucky stars that my life isn't so bad.
 
You've made great points, thanks for some clarifications.

I do understand issues Wal-Mart may have but I am all about getting the best price when it comes to buying an item and if I can get the same item cheaper at Wal-Mart you can bet I'm gonna buy it there...but that's just me.:confused3

One other thing...when people are talking about stores being "dirty". What do you mean by that? I've never seen any chain of stores in our area be "dirty"...but maybe I'm just completely oblivious to this world around me.:rotfl: I don't lick carts or lie down on the floor at my store, nor do I use ANY public restroom without seat covers, etc...so I guess I don't know what you mean by a Wal-Mart being any dirtier than Target, Kmart, or any other reatiler.
 
There are never enough checkout lines open - it takes forever just to leave the store. The ugly brown floors always look dirty. The isles are always crammed full of boxes of inventory, which just makes everything look cluttered and more dirty. Most of the non-essential/grocery items are cheap junk that fall apart waaaaaaay to quickly to justify any purchase.

I avoid Wal-Mart at all costs unless I absolutely cannot find what I am looking for anywhere else, even if I have to pay a little bit more to get it elsewhere. We used to shop at Wal-Mart a lot many years ago, but lately they went downhill so fast I can't stand them. Give me a Target any day.
 
YOu can't be the ONLY one - or they wouldn't be the top retailer....I think lots just like to bash them & still shop there -

Like a "friend" we have who was all about keeping WM out of our city - promoted the chain against WM (they stood holding hands trying to keep them out of here) and her dh printing the stop WM shirts - & they moved out of the shubdivision right behind WM.

Can you guess where she works? Walmart! She started at the very one she was trying to keep from moving in - then transferred to another & she's even trying to get in the management program for WM.

Strange how someone can hate them so much but completly change their views & work for them :confused3

there's a lot of closet WM shoppers out there...:laughing:
 
You've made great points, thanks for some clarifications.

I do understand issues Wal-Mart may have but I am all about getting the best price when it comes to buying an item and if I can get the same item cheaper at Wal-Mart you can bet I'm gonna buy it there...but that's just me.:confused3

One other thing...when people are talking about stores being "dirty". What do you mean by that? I've never seen any chain of stores in our area be "dirty"...but maybe I'm just completely oblivious to this world around me.:rotfl: I don't lick carts or lie down on the floor at my store, nor do I use ANY public restroom without seat covers, etc...so I guess I don't know what you mean by a Wal-Mart being any dirtier than Target, Kmart, or any other reatiler.

Most (not all) of the WalMarts I walk into have dirty floors. Like, I look down and I know they should be cleaner than they are. Or they're sticky. The lighting doesn't help. The shelves are in disarray, etc. I find KMarts to usually be the same way. Most Targets are a lot brighter, cleaner, etc. They might not actually be cleaner, but they feel cleaner to me.

I also don't shop at Hollister because the store is too dark and everything is wrinkled. I'm a little anal. I know this. I let my dollar speak for itself.
 
Sorry I just don't see any problems with this? WM worked for many years to be able to do this - its not like WM is twisting there arms saying selling it to me for .40 or I'll take your business down or anything - its just common since the bigger you are the more buying power you have. Why have all companies merged in recent years? Buying power...they can own it all then they make more of a profit...right ? or am I totally missing something?:confused3

Actually I have fam in FL (in fact I used to live there for 30 yrs) and super WM has been in our tiny town over 11 yrs (I worked there) and Winn Dixie is still open (well it was 2 wks ago when I was visiting) and its about 5 mi from WM & NASTY I've always hated shopping there (but used to cause it was close to our apartment)

AND as far as Albertson's go - in town (20 mins from where I lived was the closest) it just closed within the last 6 months & reopened as a Publix. Publix are popping up all over here lately (where I live now we have 1 opening next month - within about 5 miles of 1 WM & 10 miles of another) & plans to open 1 more by the end of the year (about 1mile from WM) & another 1 I've heard about but not positive they've bought the land yet.

Here are town is full of little boutiques that people are still shopping at even though WM is 5 miles away. People that shop in those kinds of boutiques aren't gonna step foot in a WM 'cause its beneath them - they will keep them in business - I sure can't afford to even walk into those stores!

What about those businesses that strive because of WM? those in the stip mall nearby? I know Firehouse subs is one of those - my dh managed 3 - 1 near Publix, 1 near Bruno's & 1 near WM & the the one that made the brought in the most $ was the 1 at WM.

Ya know its a bit useless to defend WM - people have their opinions & that's ok & of course WM is NOT perfect - any more than any other retailer.
 
One other thing...when people are talking about stores being "dirty". What do you mean by that? I've never seen any chain of stores in our area be "dirty"...but maybe I'm just completely oblivious to this world around me.:rotfl:
Walmart is among the most inconsistent retailers, in terms of facility considerations, in my experience. Some of the Walmarts that I have been to (i.e., Knoxville, TN) are spacious and immaculate, with "like new" floors/walls/etc., great lighting, etc. Some of the Walmarts that I have been to (i.e, Reading, MA) are cramped and dingy, with floors/walls/etc. that have clearly seen better days, glaring lighting, etc.
 
Walmart has provided entry level jobs, and has made consumer goods affordable and available from those who could not have afforded to buy from "mom and pop" shops. Macy's, Penney, Kohl's, Target, etc are all chain stores, but they never get the slings and arrows that Walmart does. Yet, it was Walmart that loaded up their trucks and drove to New Orleans after Katrina. It was Walmart that opened up the doors of their stores and people not only took what they needed, they took what they could never use. If one is going to refuse to shop at Walmart, they should eschew the all of the other chain stores as well.

ITA! :banana: It's AMAZING to me that WM is the ONLY retailer that sells things made in China :confused3
 
Ok, please don't flame me, but I've NEVER understood this "corporate bully" opinion as a reason to not shop there. Companies don't have to sell their product to Wal-Mart if they don't want to, yet they continue to do it. Let's face it...Wal-Mart moves product because it has the lowest prices. Why does this make Wal-Mart bad? They manage to have the lowest prices around...and if they aren't, then they price match!
To me it seems that all the companies that AREN'T Wal-mart are just mad that they aren't in the shoes Wal-mart is being the #1 retailer. Target COULD adapt their corporate ways to the same as Wal-Mart and so could KMart etc...but they choose not to and claim they are "better than that" etc...well that's fine. I refuse to spend more money on an item when I can buy it for less at Wal-Mart. Why would you choose to pay more for the same item?

No one forces people to work at Wal-Mart either, and our local Wal-Mart pays above minimum wage. If it's such a bad place to work then DON"T WORK THERE!

And as far as where all the profits are going?? Probably the same place that 99% of all profits of a company go...right into the pockets of the top 2% of management.

AMEN! My thoughts EXACTLY!
 


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