All-Time Best Television Series - List for 2009

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Every year or so, on at least half of the social forums I participate in, someone posts the question, "What do you feel were the best television series ever?" Given that we're entering that dead period, when all the summer television series are ending but before the fall television series begin, it seems an opportune time to ask this question here.

I was prompted to do this, actually, by two of the FaceBook games circulating: 15 Movies in 15 Minutes; and 15 Books in 15 Minutes. I was waiting for television to come around, but then realized that I could just launch it myself. :) My contribution is in the next message.

Here are the rules:

Rules: Take as long as you want; just don't over-think it. (The standard rules for this said "15 Minutes" but phfft to that AFAIC. :))

Right now, today, which 15 (or so) television series do you feel are the "all-time best"?
 
The Wire is perhaps the easiest program to put at the top of an "all-time best" list. I think, though, that I'd put Sleeper Cell above it, mostly because it was tighter (only two seasons, while The Wire dragged a bit in the middle of its five seasons).

Six Feet Under and The Sopranos are both also excellent programs. The two shows split complementary distinctions: Six Feet Under having one of the best endings of any series, while The Sopranos having arguably the most unsatisfying. Deadwood was also a superior program, as was The Shield.

Dexter is perhaps one of the best shows still being broadcast.

There are two obvious trends we can see from how this list is developing. First, death is a featured theme for all of these shows, and each of these shows were exceedingly depressing at times. The ability for these shows to evoke such emotion was part of their excellence. However, I think we really need to include some happy shows on a "best ever" list, to stave off unrelenting maudlin. :)

The other obvious trend is that all but one of these shows were presented on premium cable networks: People had to pay about $10 per month to see these series uncut and in first run. I believe a firm argument can be made that premium cable has provided a path to provide the quality of the very best feature films on the television medium, but also does so in a manner that fosters the long form (13 hours a year) in a way that the feature film genre never could. While we don't subscribe to premium cable any more (we pick such shows up on disc a year later, now), I have to acknowledge that premium cable is the greatest force for superior entertainment, today.


I cannot put together an "all-time best" list without including Hill Street Blues, the show I personally feel signaled the quantum leap in quality of television dramas. 1981 is when television really started getting great, and Hill Street Blues was at the vanguard of that renaissance.

What Hill Street Blues signaled for drama, I believe Soap signaled for comedy. While I don't think comedy has made quite the same leap as drama did, Soap opened a lot of doors to excellence, which occasionally we see some programs capitalize on. And I cannot mention comedy without mentioning The Simpsons. Due to its longevity, it is a favorite target for underrating. After well over two decades, though, it remains sharp and superior.

While Lost is arguably our favorite "non-death-themed" program, I am still undecided about whether it belongs on a "all-time best" list. There is a difference, I feel, between a show we feel driven to watch religiously, because we want to see where it goes and how it gets there, and a show that will truly stand the test of time. I'm also not sure about Battlestar Galactica. While it was superior television while it lasted, I wonder about how I'll feel about it a few years down the road.

Indeed, genre programming with strong story-arcs (a category that applies to both Lost and Battlestar Galactica) seems to sometimes focus more on getting to the destination than the journey. An "all-time best" really needs to be about both. Both Lost and Battlestar Galactica are great, but I think could end up eventually falling off of "best".

Babylon 5 probably does belong on the "all-time best" list, but I worry about its poor CGI production values. For now, the biggest stand-out in genre programming is Star Trek: The Next Generation and Quantum Leap: Neither reached as high as Babylon 5 did, from an effects standpoint, but as a result both will surely weather time better, given their excellent stories and characters.

Shows that just missed my 15 "all-time best" list include The West Wing (which made us believe, if only for a short time, that government could actually inspire), 24 (impressive in many ways, but most of all because it is essentially a one-man tour de force), My So-Called Life (the shortest-lived best show ever), and Wiseguy (perhaps the most underrated show on this list).
 
I am not sure I can come up with 15 but here are some:

MASH


OK, I guess I need to think about it more because this is all I can come up with. I know which ones I liked but that doesn't mean they are the best.
 
I guess I need to think about it more ...
I know what you mean... that's why I thought the 15 minutes limitation was silly. That just prompts people to deny the reality of their own thoughtfulness.

I know which ones I liked but that doesn't mean they are the best.
Well, I think we can take two things as granted for this thread: First, every assertion made is absolutely and exclusively a personal opinion. Second, we each reserve the right to change our minds tomorrow.

The distinction you make here, though, did come to bear on my list in my post above, especially as it pertained to genre programming. I'm a fan of genre programming, obviously, but I have a hard time putting such programming on an "all-time best" list, even though it is specifically and exclusively supposed to be a reflection of my own personal opinion. As I alluded to, even though I enjoyed watching that programming very much, the term "all-time best" means to me that it needs to somehow transcend the experience of enjoying watching the program in the past. I think, at least for me, "all-time best" means that I have to be willing to sit down and watch it all over again. My specific comments about Babylon 5 stemmed from having done just that. The story did stand the test of time and rewatching, but the limitations of the CGI technology available at the time that program was produced were very jarring. That's something that will always (adversely) impact the ability for genre programming to rest comfortably on an "all-time best" list IMHO, because such programming benefits so much from the advances in technology.

I look forward to seeing your entire list! :)
 

One of my all-time favorites from years age is Homefront. I've searched and searched and can not find it on DVD. :sad1:

I also like According to Jim, 2 1/2 Men, Lie to Me, Friday Night Lights, Boston Legal and Windfall (another old one). I liked Vegas in the beginning before people started to fall off of buildings.

I remember loving Happy Days and The Brady Bunch as a kid. ;)
 
M*A*S*H
Cheers
Friends
The Mary Tyler Moore Show
The Carol Burnett Show
WKRP in Cincinnati

More modern...

ER
Lost!
Heroes
Medium
Pushing Daisies
Eli Stone
Boston Legal
Dead Like Me
True Blood

Drat! How could I forget Star Trek!! Now I have 16 ;)

And now adding Quantum Leap ... another that I can't believe I forgot! Argh, it's up to 17.
 
My top 15:

LOST
Antiques Roadshow
Seinfeld
Sex and the City
Friends
House Hunters
Freaks and Geeks
The Amazing Race
If Walls Could Talk
60 Minutes
The Office
The Daily Show
Cheers
Without a Trace
CSI
 
Sex and the City (the clothes may go out of style, but the theme of friendship won't!)
Deadwood
Rome
Sopranos
Six Feet Under

Okay, let me get off this HBO kick

Dexter
I'm not adding this one, but it's looking like it might stand the test of time: Nurse Jackie

Lost
Heroes (maybe)
MASH
Cheers
All in the Family
Seinfeld
The Office
The Andy Griffith Show
Happy Days (maybe) but come on, Ron Howard! The Fonz!
 
I Love Lucy
CSI (until William Peterson left)
NCIS
Star Trek
Criminal Minds
Dexter
Law and Order
Bones
Andy Griffith
Perry Mason

(that's all I have for now....I like and watch a lot of others, but that doesn't necessarily make them the "best" ;) )
 
1. JAG
2. Friends
3. Mad Men
4. Heroes
5. Pushing Daisies
6. Three's Company
7. Family Ties
8. The Guardian
9. Beverly Hills, 90210
10. The Brady Bunch
11. Life on Mars
12. Dukes of Hazzard
13. Love, Sidney (I don't think anyone else ever heard of this show but I loved it!)
14. Happy Days
15. Quantum Leap
 
My 15 favorites (at least the ones I can think of right now)

1. MASH
2. Golden Girls
3. Roseanne
4. Little House on the Prairie
5. Antiques Roadshow
6. Survivor
7. Jeopardy
8. Wonderful World of Disney
9. I Love Lucy (all of the Lucille Ball series really)
10. Cheers
11. Star Trek
12. The original Battlestar Galactica
13. The Brady Bunch
14. MacGyver
15. JAG
 
In no particular order
1. ER
2. MASH
3. Judging Amy
4. Family Ties
5. Quantum Leap
6. Monk
7. Gilmore Girls
8. Chicago Hope
9. Waltons
10. Cosby Show
11. 7th Heaven (in the beginning before they started having stray kids living with them)


I can't think of any more right now
 
I don't know if I could come up with 15, but my personal, top #1 best television series every made is The West Wing. I like other shows, but the West Wing is the only show I've ever bought the DVD seasons of. I have every season on DVD and still watch it quite often. Best. show. ever.
 
St. Elsewhere -- it changed the format for drama and medical shows.

Gilmore Girls -- rapid-fire dialogue so that you got a full hour of show in a 40 minute span.

ER -- length of run -- 'nuff said.
 
I have been watching TV for MANY years and lately, in the last 3 years or so, I have been going "off the grid" so to speak, and watching TNT/USA/FX/HBO/SHO and watching some of the shows presented on these channels. DEXTER I just started to watch a few weeks back, and now I am almost caught up.:thumbsup2 I like BURN NOTICE but this past "season" was a bit boring, hope next "season" livens up a little. I also watched DAMAGES the first season, but kind of got lost in the second, but it was a great show. Acting on that was superb. TRUE BLOOD is another one I like, as is NURSE JACKIE. :thumbsup2 The past shows of course a few mentioned here, MASH/ ALL IN THE FAMILY/ HAPPY DAYS etc....:thumbsup2
 
In no particular order

St Elsewhere
Soap/Mary Hartman,Mary Hartman (this odd show brought DH and I together)
WKRP In Cincinnati
Bob Newhart
HBO shows Six Feet Under, Sopranos, Big Love and OZ
all the Law and Orders
Midnight Special ( its was a great show to watch to see band I would never see any other way)
The Frugal Gourmet (I know thats an odd one, but he really ignited my love of cooking)

What is the common theme is even though many of these shows haven't been on for over 30 years, I still remember them like they were on yesterday.
 
My picks are based on what I would watch over and over and over again:

I Love Lucy (timeless)

The Andy Griffith Show (who doesn't want to visit Mayberry from time to time)

Leave it to Beaver (you can learn a lot from the Beaver)

Star Trek Generations (hope for the future)

Gilmore Girls (I loved this show and miss it terribly)

Seinfeld (a day in my life)

Mash (great characters and writing)

The Factor (because I want to know what's really going on)

The Weather Channel (how did I live without it)
 
MASH
All in the Family
Northern Exposure
I Love Lucy
Golden Girls
Gunsmoke
Bonanza
Outer Limits
ER
Lost
Frasier
WKRP in Cincinnati
Taxi
Cheers
Mary Tyler Moore Show
Bob Newhart Show
Family Ties
The Cosby Show

I like a lot of classic TV and could add more but I see that I've already gone over my limit of 15!
 
Roseanne
The Andy Griffith Show (the Barney Fife years; after that it jumped the shark)
The Dick Van **** Show
The Carol Burnett Show (both of these had some of the most out and out hilarious moments on television)
MASH (amazing how a show can be so serious one week and so funny the next)
WKRP in Cincinnati
Lost
Highlander
Quantum Leap
The Jeffersons
I Love Lucy
Reba (watch the reruns; this show would've done better if it was originally on one of the big three)
Star Trek: The Next Generation
Seinfeld (extremely quotable)
24
 















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