All About Fixed Weeks (RIV/CCV/AUL/VGF/POLY/TOWER/VHD/FWC Charts)

[Sandisw]

That is the question! Are these GW evenly distributed as points are released? What criteria is necessary to release the GW? And again, what are the overall totals of each GW per room type and week?

They don’t release them as FW They declare units which contains room. Once that happens, DVC can sell no more than that 35% as a FW of that specific room type on any given day.

They don’t have to sell that many. It’s always based on the rooms declared. If they declared 14 studios, then they can sell up to 9 FW for each week for those studios.

Since studios are also categorized by views, that 9 will be divided based on how many of each view there are. So if there are 2 FW sold for week 39, then that means as posted there must have been 6 of the 14.

 

[BWV Dreamin]

So if I am understanding correctly, they could sell them based on “ demand” and not necessarily have any particular weeks reserved a head of time?

 

[Sandisw]

So if I am understanding correctly, they could sell them based on “ demand” and not necessarily have any particular weeks reserved a head of time?

That is correct. It’s up to them how they want to sell them…they are simply forbidden to sell more than 35% of inventory for any given use day.

DVC doesn’t disclose if they have or have not sold up to that limit…just let buyers know if a particular week is sold out.

 

[emchen]

I think they meant Ft Wilderness cabins.

Yes you are correct.

@DonkeyHoTay found it.

I just found it: https://dvcexplorer.com/FIN/FW/FW-FortCabins.pdf

https://dvcexplorer.com/FIN/FW/FW-FortCabins.pdf
Interesting that there is still no “The Official” Cabins at Ft. Wilderness thread on DisBoards. What does that tell us, if anything?

 

[LavaMama]

Does anyone know how often are the FW Point Charts updated? I'm wondering if the March 13th 2023 FW Point Chart is the most current for CCV and if its likely to change soon. Thanks!

 

[Tatebeck]

Very rarely. That is probably the most updated and maybe the last. Do they even sell FW for sold out resorts (and obviously only if they offered them when they were actively selling)?

 

[Royal Consort]

Very rarely. That is probably the most updated and maybe the last. Do they even sell FW for sold out resorts (and obviously only if they offered them when they were actively selling)?

They sell FW for sold out resorts, but only the resorts eligible for FW to begin with.

 

[Road_Dog]

I’m sorry if this has been asked, but how do fixed weeks work if I don’t have enough points for a week?

Example: I buy a 150 point new Poly tower direct. I ask for a fixed week in December. Based on the point charts for 2025, we know a Deluxe studio is 139 for standard view. So is that the guaranteed room type I’d get? Because the P and TP views start at 162 points. Am I reserved the week, and I have to make a choice whether I want to borrow/buy the extra 12 points? Does my account automatically borrow the missing points?

What if I chose a week in a more expensive period, like March? One week for standard views starts at 181, so I already do not have enough.

This isn’t even accounting for the 10% increase the fixed week costs.

In short, I want to buy 150 direct at Poly with a Sep/Oct use year (as well mostly travel between Oct-May) and I’m curious if I’m going to be limited to the time of the year I can buy a fixed week.

 

[JackosinDIS]

I’m sorry if this has been asked, but how do fixed weeks work if I don’t have enough points for a week?

Example: I buy a 150 point new Poly tower direct. I ask for a fixed week in December. Based on the point charts for 2025, we know a Deluxe studio is 139 for standard view. So is that the guaranteed room type I’d get? Because the P and TP views start at 162 points. Am I reserved the week, and I have to make a choice whether I want to borrow/buy the extra 12 points? Does my account automatically borrow the missing points?

What if I chose a week in a more expensive period, like March? One week for standard views starts at 181, so I already do not have enough.

This isn’t even accounting for the 10% increase the fixed week costs.

In short, I want to buy 150 direct at Poly with a Sep/Oct use year (as well mostly travel between Oct-May) and I’m curious if I’m going to be limited to the time of the year I can buy a fixed week.

The fixed weeks all have a set point value, so for example, a week in December will cost 153 points - you have to buy that amount if you want that fixed week. You can’t buy 150 points to use towards a fixed week.

Sound like you need to look at the FW points chart and choose a week that is close in number to the amount of points you want to buy. If you chose a week that is less than 150 points, you can buy an extra contract (25 points or larger) to get you up to the 150 point threshold.

 

[Road_Dog]

The fixed weeks all have a set point value, so for example, a week in December will cost 153 points - you have to buy that amount if you want that fixed week. You can’t buy 150 points to use towards a fixed week.

Sound like you need to look at the FW points chart and choose a week that is close in number to the amount of points you want to buy. If you chose a week that is less than 150 points, you can buy an extra contract (25 points or larger) to get you up to the 150 point threshold.

Thanks, so basically based on 2025 charts I have to buy a week I can afford. For example, if I buy 150 points at Poly tower, the only fixed week that I’d be eligible for would be in travel period 1 and 2? Because the standard studios are 104 and 125, which with the 10% fee would come out to 114 and 138, respectfully.

I guess there’s an argument against going that route since you ideally want fixed weeks in higher demand week and availability seems easy to get at 11 months in travel periods 1 and 2.

 

[JackosinDIS]

Thanks, so basically based on 2025 charts I have to buy a week I can afford. For example, if I buy 150 points at Poly tower, the only fixed week that I’d be eligible for would be in travel period 1 and 2? Because the standard studios are 104 and 125, which with the 10% fee would come out to 114 and 138, respectfully.

I guess there’s an argument against going that route since you ideally want fixed weeks in higher demand week and availability seems easy to get at 11 months in travel periods 1 and 2.

Correct, you would need to buy a week under 150 points if that is your max.

I’d say that the standard view studio will always be fairly high demand, so I don’t think it’s a bad idea to get a fixed week for any time to be honest. If you see that it is available for booking at the 11 month mark you can just cancel the fixed week and use points instead.

 

[Road_Dog]

Correct, you would need to buy a week under 150 points if that is your max.

I’d say that the standard view studio will always be fairly high demand, so I don’t think it’s a bad idea to get a fixed week for any time to be honest. If you see that it is available for booking at the 11 month mark you can just cancel the fixed week and use points instead.

Got it. So based on your phrasing, it sounds like when you buy a fixed week, that's what the contract IS. I'm buying a fixed week in December at Poly for 153 points. I can't buy a 200 contract with a 153 fixed week within it--the contact size has to be the size of the fixed week. Is that correct? (Of course, I can cancel the fixed week and use the 153 points on whatever else I want--including the same week/dates providing there is availability, which would potentially help me save the 10% fee).

A few follow ups:
- What happens when new point charts come out with higher point totals? My research tells me the price of the week remains unchanged, even with an increase, but that can't be true forever? Seems silly to think that 10 years down the road, I'd still be getting a fixed week at 153 if the regular price has gone up to something like 180 (or is that truly the best secret as to why you SHOULD always get a fixed week?)
- Can I buy such an "odd" number when buying direct? The online tool on Disney's website always let me use the slider to go from more rounded values--but I can

 

[davidhr]

Got it. So based on your phrasing, it sounds like when you buy a fixed week, that's what the contract IS. I'm buying a fixed week in December at Poly for 153 points. I can't buy a 200 contract with a 153 fixed week within it--the contact size has to be the size of the fixed week. Is that correct? (Of course, I can cancel the fixed week and use the 153 points on whatever else I want--including the same week/dates providing there is availability, which would potentially help me save the 10% fee).

A few follow ups:
- What happens when new point charts come out with higher point totals? My research tells me the price of the week remains unchanged, even with an increase, but that can't be true forever? Seems silly to think that 10 years down the road, I'd still be getting a fixed week at 153 if the regular price has gone up to something like 180 (or is that truly the best secret as to why you SHOULD always get a fixed week?)
- Can I buy such an "odd" number when buying direct? The online tool on Disney's website always let me use the slider to go from more rounded values--but I can

You can split the 200 into two contracts. The FW for 153 and another contract for 47 (50 if it’s a resort with that minimum).

FW remains the same. Remember that the total points of a resort can’t change, the weeks don’t increase too much. And if that happens, a week somewhere needs to decrease. The contrary can happen too. A FW can be more than 10% if it increased. I believe that happens with the last two weeks of the year currently.

 

[JackosinDIS]

I can't buy a 200 contract with a 153 fixed week within it--the contact size has to be the size of the fixed week. Is that correct?

Correct.

What happens when new point charts come out with higher point totals? My research tells me the price of the week remains unchanged, even with an increase, but that can't be true forever?

Your FW remains unchanged. Remember that that points could go down as well as up.

Can I buy such an "odd" number when buying direct? The online tool on Disney's website always let me use the slider to go from more rounded values

Yes! You can buy odd numbers

 

[WeIcomeHome]

Got it. So based on your phrasing, it sounds like when you buy a fixed week, that's what the contract IS. I'm buying a fixed week in December at Poly for 153 points. I can't buy a 200 contract with a 153 fixed week within it--the contact size has to be the size of the fixed week. Is that correct? (Of course, I can cancel the fixed week and use the 153 points on whatever else I want--including the same week/dates providing there is availability, which would potentially help me save the 10% fee).

A few follow ups:
- What happens when new point charts come out with higher point totals? My research tells me the price of the week remains unchanged, even with an increase, but that can't be true forever? Seems silly to think that 10 years down the road, I'd still be getting a fixed week at 153 if the regular price has gone up to something like 180 (or is that truly the best secret as to why you SHOULD always get a fixed week?)
- Can I buy such an "odd" number when buying direct? The online tool on Disney's website always let me use the slider to go from more rounded values--but I can

You can buy a favorite week (Disney's official language for a fixed week) contract and put more points in the contract than the FW price states but it doesn't make sense to do so unless you never planned to use your FW and wanted slightly more points. For example, if a week costs 139 points but you wanted 150 points, you could buy that week and put it in the contract you have FW# for 150 points. The downside is that anytime you use your FW, you would use the full contract value of 150 points. It doesn't typically make sense to do it that way but it is allowed. Hypothetically, if there was a FW for 149 points, it could make sense to put 150 in the contract if you didn't want to go to 200 on your purchase via a second deed but wanted incentives for 150 points. For me, I bought a RIV FW for 114 points and then split up the rest of my purchase into a 50 and 86 point contract for flexibility in how many points I have moving forward.

It doesn't matter what the 2038 point charts state, you will have the option to use your FW for whatever points are noted on the deed. So in the scenario above, if you added a point to get to 150 points, you will always pay 150 points to have Disney book your FW. If the points go up, it makes sense to use your FW, if the points go down and you are able to book yourself, it makes sense to do so. There are scenarios where a tough to book room may still make sense to use a FW even if the points associated with the FW are more than cost of the room in a given year.

As long as you meet the minimum contract size for the specific resort, you can choose any number of points. I would advise breaking up large contracts into more manageable sizes to make resale easier should you ever need to sell.

 

[Mikey15]

You can buy a favorite week (Disney's official language for a fixed week) contract and put more points in the contract than the FW price states but it doesn't make sense to do so unless you never planned to use your FW and wanted slightly more points. For example, if a week costs 139 points but you wanted 150 points, you could buy that week and put it in the contract you have FW# for 150 points. The downside is that anytime you use your FW, you would use the full contract value of 150 points. It doesn't typically make sense to do it that way but it is allowed. Hypothetically, if there was a FW for 149 points, it could make sense to put 150 in the contract if you didn't want to go to 200 on your purchase via a second deed but wanted incentives for 150 points. For me, I bought a RIV FW for 114 points and then split up the rest of my purchase into a 50 and 86 point contract for flexibility in how many points I have moving forward.

Not trying to be pedantic, but I do want to comment on the terminology:

The FW is its own Contract. You can’t put more points into that contract. If it’s 149 or 114, that’s what it is.

If you want to hit the 150, 200, 250 point incentive levels on that Purchase, and put them all under the same Membership (same owners, same Use Year), that’s fine. You’re just breaking up your single Purchase into multiple Contracts. E.g. purchasing 250 points broken up into contracts of 50, 86, and 114 FW.

The reason that distinction matters is if that resort has a minimum contract size (25, 50, whatever it is), that’s the smallest contract you can add into the purchase in addition to the FW. So to add a contract to a 149pt FW, you might have to add a 51 pointer to make it a 200 point Purchase. Can’t add just 1.

 

[Flash_Sloth]

And one more detail about the FWs. If you use your FW, it will always take the points from the current UY. It will never use banked, borrowed, or transferred points. So if you cancel your FW one year, bank the points into the next UY, and want to use the FW the next year, it won't use your banked points.

When I bought my FWs, I was also trying to hit a particular incentive level. My FWs were 130 and 122 points. My guide told me that RIV had a 50 pt minimum for a contract, but if I really wanted to, we could see if we could sneak in a 48 pt contract. It was only 2 more points, and I didn't want to ruffle any feathers in their QA department, so I went a little over the 300 pt incentive level with 302 as 130+122+50.

 

[PolyRob]

You can’t put more points into that contract. If it’s 149 or 114, that’s what it is.

It may not be popular or common, but you actually can put extra points into a FW contract.

Say you only want to buy 150 points for an incentive tier and your FW is 143 points. DVC will not sell you a 7 point contract so it will sell you a 150 point contract that is the 143 FW "topped off" with 7 points. If you utilize the FW booked by MS it takes all 150 points and you essentially lose the 7 points on top of the 10%. If you cancel, you have 150 points to book with, not 143 points.

 

[sethschroeder]

@sethschroeder are you planning to add VDH and CFW FW Schedules to page one?

I updated the 1st and 9th post. The 1st post now has all the current Fixed Week point charts for new purchases. I moved the historical charts that you can no longer purchase to the 9th post.

There is a limit to the number of attachments.

I may in the future combine all the point charts in to a single PDF but for now keeping them separate as its likely easy for people to use I suspect.

 

[BWV Dreamin]

Is the minimum direct point purchase for new purchasers 100 pts? I thought for some reason this new minimum was dropped from 150 to 100 points. If so, why are there no CCV FW 48 and 49? In fact I only see weeks 12-16 and weeks 51-52 available for studios. Is the reason 35% sales have been met for all other weeks?