Alcohol Policy Change?

[gichicdoc]

The question has been raised as to why this thread should be allowed to continue and why we are still posting on it. As others have said, there it is a very good possibility that DCL will rethink their current position on bringing alcohol onboard. If the last few days are any indication, they would like to make a change. This information was "sneaked out" before a public announcement was made. The web site info was never changed and the reservation reps were never told to make this announcement. If you feel strongly, one way or the other, about this issue (and it is clear people do), the time to let them know your opinion is now before it is a done deal.

I don't understand why people get upset if they don't think a topic on a thread is relevant or if they don't agree with what is being posted. Feel free to voice your opinion, as long as it is not done in a crude, unlawful or immoral way. If you don't like what is being said on the thread, don't open it or read. But for gosh sakes don't go crying to the moderators that they should close the thread cause "they're saying not happy place things about DCL".

raised to infinity!!!

 

[hgon76]

Just out of curiosity....to the posters who are wondering "why people are getting so upset about not being allowed to bring alcohol onboard".....what about a Disney cruise is important to you? In other words, what could they take away that would bring out this response for you? I've seen threads about Aquaduck & the weight limit being a big problem. And I honestly thought that's a matter of safety & I think they definitely SHOULD impose a weight limit. But many people were VERY upset about it. I see posts about the pools being too small as an important point for some. Me? Could care less if they didn't even HAVE a pool. Point being, why belittle someone else's feelings about a particular subject. There may be a particular "perk" that your fond of, that others could care less about. It's upsetting when people just assume that just because something doesn't matter to them, then it shouldn't really matter to anyone else. And if it does, these other people MUST have something wrong with them. We are individuals with different likes/dislikes. It's what makes the world go 'round.

 

[DMMarla07860]

Just out of curiosity....to the posters who are wondering "why people are getting so upset about not being allowed to bring alcohol onboard".....what about a Disney cruise is important to you? In other words, what could they take away that would bring out this response for you? I've seen threads about Aquaduck & the weight limit being a big problem. And I honestly thought that's a matter of safety & I think they definitely SHOULD impose a weight limit. But many people were VERY upset about it. I see posts about the pools being too small as an important point for some. Me? Could care less if they didn't even HAVE a pool. Point being, why belittle someone else's feelings about a particular subject. There may be a particular "perk" that your fond of, that others could care less about. It's upsetting when people just assume that just because something doesn't matter to them, then it shouldn't really matter to anyone else. And if it does, these other people MUST have something wrong with them. We are individuals with different likes/dislikes. It's what makes the world go 'round.

what is important to me, they would have to take away all the cruise staff for me to complain.I've become friends with lots of them. Anything else that are perks I really don't mind

 

[extechie rbd/wdt]

I personally said and think it should be closed because some poster's are making comment's about other's ability to have a good time without alcohol and judging other's by their want to bring alcohol on board.

Since it's a non-issue now, a separate thread about "what about a Disney cruise is important to you?" as suggested by hgon76 would be more appropriate in my opinion.
Even a thread to gather member's and supporter's of a "don't let DCL ban us bring our own booze aboard" thread where it could be more constructive to the cause, and no-one who choses to read it might be offended by someone suggesting they are a drunk for wanting to bring aboard more than 1 bottle of wine?
Still wan't see who wen't crying to the Mod's though?

Each to their own opinion I guess?

Ex Techie

 

[gdulaney]

And....a friendly reminder about not judging people. There have been many posts that lean toward judging when they question how much liquor people enjoy on a cruise. This thread is about the policy change.

Let's keep it friendly and non judgmental. Thanks!

MJ

Thank you for the reminder MJ !! I have to admit that I was definitely getting upset.

Ginny

 

[TIGGERmetoo]

As others have said, it is clear that DCL has been rethink their position on bringing alcohol onboard and if the last few days are any indication, they would like to make a change. This rescinded notice (we understand nothing is changing at this time) was "sneaked out" before a public announcement was made. The web site info was never changed and the reservation reps were never told to make this announcement. The question has been raised as to why then this thread should be allowed to continue and why we are still posting on it. Seems pretty clear it is because the topic is of interest and concern to many of the people who read these boards. If you feel strongly, one way or the other, about this issue (and it is clear people do), the time to let DCL know your opinion is now before it is a done deal.

I don't understand why people get upset if they don't think a topic on a thread is relevant (to them?) or if they don't agree with what is being posted. Feel free to voice your opinion, as long as it is not done in a crude, unlawful or immoral way. However, if you don't like what is being said on the thread, or don't think the thread is something you feel is of interest, don't open it or read it. But for gosh sakes don't go crying to the moderators that they should close the thread cause "they're saying not happy place things about DCL". People like DISboard members who talk about what makes DCL the best cruise line out there and let DCL know where they are not hitting the mark are invaluable. And DCL knows that. Why do you think your asked to take a survey after every interaction with them?

Well said.

 

[devine5829]

So, if this was just a leak, why did a Disney agent email me back saying this new policy will start in September? Now, I got the message this morning (and posted here wayyyy back in the am). I have since responded to the email to ask for confirmation on which policy is correct.

Also, again, for those not understanding why people are upset...remember, If you were sailing in October, and they just now said....

No free sodas on deck 9...
No free ice cream for the kids...
Pizza will now have a charge....
There will be a surcharge for something that never was...

you would be a little upset. It doesnt need to be alcohol.

And a VERY POSITIVE thing to remember. If this has changed back due to people voicing their opinion...that is a good thing! In a world where our voice sometimes doesnt feel like its heard...I would then give Disney big kuddos if they were listening...and a big thank you!!

 

[SnowWhite2]

I've obviously come late to the party on page 26 and haven't been able to read all of the posts so forgive me if this has been posted.

If people bring a lot of alcohol on board (that is different amounts for different people) and drink to get really drunk, DCL doesn't have control to cut them off like at a bar on land where you can't bring your own alcohol. That could be a liability to them and a reason they may want to limit how much you can bring with you. Even though they have nightclubs and bars, they like to keep the atmosphere very ...not sure of the word that would describe it....tasteful, civil, maybe. They aren't looking for the frat party atmosphere.


I've always felt that DCL's drink prices were rather reasonable so they don't seem to be gouging the customer on that end. The corkage fee applies to all bar establishments so that is not out of the ordinary either. Hopefully a happy medium can be reached.

 

[ksucats]

So, if this was just a leak, why did a Disney agent email me back saying this new policy will start in September? Now, I got the message this morning (and posted here wayyyy back in the am). I have since responded to the email to ask for confirmation on which policy is correct.

Also, again, for those not understanding why people are upset...remember, If you were sailing in October, and they just now said....

No free sodas on deck 9...
No free ice cream for the kids...
Pizza will now have a charge....
There will be a surcharge for something that never was...

you would be a little upset. It doesnt need to be alcohol.

And a VERY POSITIVE thing to remember. If this has changed back due to people voicing their opinion...that is a good thing! In a world where our voice sometimes doesnt feel like its heard...I would then give Disney big kuddos if they were listening...and a big thank you!!

Very well said.

When we booked our first Disney cruise, we had never taken any cruises. I justified the extra cost by the fact that sodas were includes, we could bring our own alcohol, & there was no casino. If there was a casino, I would've spent some money there, but am fine that there isn't one. We probably would've selected a different cruise line for our first cruise if the cost of alcohol would've been the same between the two. I consider the hundreds of dollars that we would spend on alcohol to be part of the cruise price. The fact that we can bring our own on Disney is enough for me to pay the extra prices.

We are booked on another cruise for next May and if that changes, I will be extremely unhappy. I will not cancel, but also will not rebook. We will cruise another line which better fits our budget. I understand if they want to make the change for new cruises when they release them, but that needs to said up front before the cruises are booked, so we can consider that as part of the price.

 

[Disneytwinsmom]

WOW! this topic really got everyone talking! I am just going to wait for the official notification and updated policy.

 

[extechie rbd/wdt]

I can't seem to find load's of thread's on here about people getting so drunk it has caused a problem or impacted on their ability to enjoy their cruise.

Some think this was an attempt by DCL to sneak this new rule in without anyone noticing until it was made public in a tweet.
Some think it was introduced by other's abusing DCL goodwill and their policy of allowing people to bring their own.
Some think it was a cynical deliberate "test the water's" operation.

Kudo's the the DISboards indeed if they were the cause of the retraction, but
personally, after speaking to a CM earlier, her telling me how many phone call's they're getting, no extra staff and that makes me still think it was something being discussed a while ago, leaked yesterday, poorly handled on DCL part, and a lot of misinformation ensued to both CM's on the phones and Guest's.
As I said earlier, it wouldn't take an Imagineer to work out what the response would be, so why the need to "test the waters" and give such short notice?

Ex Techie

 

[mmouse37]

It gets me to thinking though whats next, no more free sodas. It could happen.

DCL has only had "free" soda for the last 6 or 7 years....before that they had a soda mug program like at the parks. Everyone was very excited and it put a feather in DCL's cap when they bucked conventional cruise policies and included soda.

Everyone...we will keep the thread open but the next post that has any hint of judgment toward anyone will be deleted and if it continues the thread will be closed. Discuss current or proposed policies but do not be snarky, rude or argumentative.

Thanks.

MJ

 

[hgon76]

Also, again, for those not understanding why people are upset...remember, If you were sailing in October, and they just now said....

No free sodas on deck 9...
No free ice cream for the kids...
Pizza will now have a charge....
There will be a surcharge for something that never was...

you would be a little upset. It doesnt need to be alcohol.

And a VERY POSITIVE thing to remember. If this has changed back due to people voicing their opinion...that is a good thing! In a world where our voice sometimes doesnt feel like its heard...I would then give Disney big kuddos if they were listening...and a big thank you!!

Well said!
No free sodas on deck 9?Wouldn't phase me. But may some people. Doesn't mean I'd accuse them of being sugar addicts (Although soda really is SOOOO BAD for you)
No free ice cream for the kids?Don't think we even found the free ice cream until our 2nd cruise. And didn't use it when we did
But I do understand & respect that this would bother some.

 

[lisamarch]

I am seriously going to consider booking with another cruise line. Disney costs so much more but the alcohol (and free soda) were reasons for staying with DCL. Ridiculous.

 

[extechie rbd/wdt]

I am seriously going to consider booking with another cruise line. Disney costs so much more but the alcohol (and free soda) were reasons for staying with DCL. Ridiculous.

And the soda is still free and you can still bring as much alcohol aboard as you can get in your carry on!

Ex Techie

 

[ksucats]

And the soda is still free and you can still bring as much alcohol aboard as you can get in your carry on!

Ex Techie

At least you can now still carry as much as you want on.

Obviously, Disney has been considering changing this & decided to implement it. They didn't implement it the correct way & quickly rescinded. I still look for them to change their policy at some point. If they want to do it correctly, they will make the policy change for the 2013 cruises BEFORE they start taking bookings on them. Also, they should make the policy change clear to anyone booking as a lot of cruisers would expect the policy to remain the same & not check the small print. Obviously, those of us that frequent the boards will be aware of any change when it happens, but I would be that we are a small percent of cruisers.

 

[jessrose18]

And the soda is still free and you can still bring as much alcohol aboard as you can get in your carry on!

Ex Techie

we should start a thread titled "disney is not changing alcohol carry on policy" for the people who havent read through the thread and haven't noticed yet that it is infact not changing....just a thought

 

[Cmbar]

Perhaps the parents enjoy those areas while the kids are attending the kids club.

I don't think these things are the same though. People were upset about the limits to alcohol and how the "no limit' policy (even though there is a limit) was a major reason for them to justify the price difference. on any cruise thread I've read on this or other board, there has never been a mention of this as a reason for people being willing to pay a premium price for DCL. It has always been about the Disney touches (characters, theaming, shows, family entertainment, etc) not drinking.

I definitely included "bringing own Alcohol on board" as a reason to go with Disney. We never drink outside of vacation. We love the idea of simply sitting by the ocean and having a drink or two. I don't want to be acosted by a server to get me a drink and have it 10- 20 minutes later and then have to tip him too for the delayed service or watered down drink. I can pour my own drink thank you and I will make my Rum and Coke the way I like it. Lots of things about DCL is nice but it still takes justification for paying the increasing premiums to travel with them. I don't want to be hassled by others during my vacation so I don't want to have to ask for a soda or go to a bar to buy a drink. These are what I love about Disney. Entertainment is great, but so are the other cruise lines. Characters are at Disney where we own DVC so we see often and the food is very good but not the best in the cruise industry. So we choose Disney because I like to be left alone and grab my own food and drinks! Silly I know and probably very different from some others but certainly not in your list of why people always choose DCL.

Just out of curiosity....to the posters who are wondering "why people are getting so upset about not being allowed to bring alcohol onboard".....what about a Disney cruise is important to you? In other words, what could they take away that would bring out this response for you? I've seen threads about Aquaduck & the weight limit being a big problem. And I honestly thought that's a matter of safety & I think they definitely SHOULD impose a weight limit. But many people were VERY upset about it. I see posts about the pools being too small as an important point for some. Me? Could care less if they didn't even HAVE a pool. Point being, why belittle someone else's feelings about a particular subject. There may be a particular "perk" that your fond of, that others could care less about. It's upsetting when people just assume that just because something doesn't matter to them, then it shouldn't really matter to anyone else. And if it does, these other people MUST have something wrong with them. We are individuals with different likes/dislikes. It's what makes the world go 'round.

You Rock
I really don't like the posts that start with "couldn't care less about this policy change" Why are you posting then???

what is important to me, they would have to take away all the cruise staff for me to complain.I've become friends with lots of them. Anything else that are perks I really don't mind

Wow?

I am seriously going to consider booking with another cruise line. Disney costs so much more but the alcohol (and free soda) were reasons for staying with DCL. Ridiculous.

Totally agree with this unfortunately. We are booked in Five cabins for June 2012 and we got a good price booking just at the dates came out, but even that price is ridiculous compared to RC or Celebrity. There is no way we are doing DCL for Alaska because we live on the East coast and to add the cost of getting out there to DCL's prices its just insane. We will have to "slum" it on the other lines if we want to see Alaska! We wanted to add one more cabin for our trip in June 2012. Cabin is over $4000 more than what we are paying. My DH was very dissapointed in DCL for the new policy (which thankfully for now has been reversed) He gave me a look of "one more reason to cancel this ridiculously priced trip"

Just one more thing. I think the thing I was most offended by (besides the short notice) is that Disney decided that I should like beer and/or wine only? I don't like the taste of wine or beer so I was discriminated against!

 

[stargazertechie]

we should start a thread titled "disney is not changing alcohol carry on policy" for the people who havent read through the thread and haven't noticed yet that it is infact not changing....just a thought

Sorry for not reading through- wedding prep has been crazy.


So they rescinded their decision already? Awesome

 

[hgon76]

He gave me a look of "one more reason to cancel this ridiculously priced trip"

I had that EXACT look on my face earlier!! Honestly, it is just a "con" in the "pros & cons". We had pretty much decided this'll be our last DCL cruise. For the cost, we want to start bringing our kids to different places besides a Disney Cruise or Disney world. Someone posted about Costa Rica & I started thinking, why am I paying SO much for this cruise when I could be staying on the side of a rainforest or volcano with my family for the same cost? How awesome would that be? My SIL has lived in London for 10 years & we have YET to visit her. How silly is that? Family & a place to stay in Europe, & I'm going on another cruise? So this just kind of makes people like me who are "on the fence" about paying this much versus Seeing something new, exciting, & different, give it just a little more thought perhaps.