AKL pool chair hogging?

Also, while at the BC last year, we watched the lifeguards walk around constantly taking towels off of chairs and freeing them up. If there was personal items there they didn't touch them, but when only pool towels were left, they were removed. This happened about every hour.

We noticed that as well-they also seemed obsessed with putting the back of the chair up and the chair back in place (in a good way) It worked well because if anyone came back and noticed their chair was now being used, there seemed to be a bunch of other ones now available anyway. Granted they needed to go get another towel but big deal.

We also like that SAB has a lot of chairs on the beach always available if needed. Esp with older kids and teens that dont need to see into the pool. Maybe some resorts could add an area like this as well.
 
1. You don't have to be sitting on a pool chair the whole time you are there.

2. You can't get to the pool early put towels on multiple chairs and head to the parks for the morning.

There is a middle ground, which we do.

When we get to the pool (5 of us) we try to get two or three chairs together.
We put our belongings on them. This way we can get in and get out and have a place to dry off, and sit for awhile. At BC sometimes we would order food from the cm who walks around taking orders. This way we would have a place to eat also.

The manager was absolutely right. You cannot just take things off of someone's chair while they are swimming on the pool. If you saw someone leave their belongs, and then walk out of the pool area and not come back for a long time then I say they have a right to lose their chair.

Exactly! Use of the pool and use of the loungers are not mutually exclusive. Otherwise, we would have one area with a pool and no lounger and another area with loungers and no pool. People who plan on lounging and not swimming do not get priority over people who wish to do both. People who want to go to the parks during the day get their lounge when they arrive at the pool, not when they drop a paperback and a towel on it four hours before they actually plan on using the lounge.
 
When we go to other types of places where you need to store belongings (McDonald's play area, Chuck E Cheese, etc) there are usually "cubbies".
Would something like this eliminate the "where to put this" for towels, flip flops, sun lotion, as one is swimming, then when you get out, it is time to look for a lounger??
Seems like the big question is no one knows the right place to store their stuff while swimming.

It seems all are agreed that dropping off belongings in the am to "save a chair" for an afternoon return is a NO-NO!
 
1: just because YOU think you only need one chair per family to stash stuff does NOT mean the next family that comes in does. and you have no right to impose YOUR idea of what is fair on others. as long as the resort allows for it, then it is what it is.

2: Just because a family chooses to spend hours at a time in the immediate area( vis a vis.. the POOL) and not sitting in the chairs they claim does not make them chair hogs.

I think the CM was perfectly justified in refusing to make any sort of announcement that imposes your will/ideas of what is fair/correct on others. he found you 2 chairs when you only asked for one.. that's going above and beyond.

I am sure the CMs keep a general eye on unoccupied chairs and has some sort of system to determine which have been abandoned( as in, drop stuff off at 7 am then take off for MK for the morning) which are being used to store guests' in the pool area belongings and but which are being used but happen to be empty for ten minutes for a potty or meal break. I am also just as sure that they keep a general eye on crowd levels and adjust accordingly.

you will never have to worry about DH and I taking up YOUR space poolside. for one, I only do the hot tubs. when I even go that far. 2, I choose the shady spots that tend to be a ways away from the action.
 

To me, someone who 'claims' pool chairs they don't intend to actually lounge in have about as much class as the bus bag lady.
I'm a cool off or swim a few laps, then read, pool user, so I consider interspersing swimming with lounging to be actively using a chair.
Disney could do a few things to lesson the impact, in high pool use times:
Have wrist bands for all deluxe pools - weed out the riffraff who aren't paying to stay at that resort from swimming
Have a cm (not a lifeguard - they need to be watching swimmers) 'helping' locate lounge chairs for guests - during busy park attendance they have cms helping people locate seating at cs restaurants (and keeping people from sitting until they actually have food to eat.) Same concept, I'll tuck your belongings here and when you want a lounge, I'll find one for you.
Or, have a rule posted that unattended belongings will be moved after 15 min.s, and then have a cm sweep up belongings every half hour or so - like a meter maid.
When you see a sea of empty but 'claimed' lounges then there's clearly enough chairs, they are just not being managed efficiently.

:thumbsup2 Totally agree. When I go with my kids I get two loungers, one for youngest DS who likes to lounge more than swim, and one for myself. Oldest DS just swims, gets out, and goes to the room so why get him a chair?

I also don't see the point in getting chairs for kids that stay in the water the whole time. Do they really need their own chair? I'm one of those that waits and circles. If I see a lounger with a towel on it that's been unoccupied for a long time, then I go and ask the "neighbors" if the chair is available.

Have to agree. We sometimes find it very hard to find two chaises together if we get to a resort pool midafternoon. At Jambo House last week, we looked and looked for a spot around 4ish. Finally found a few chaises located underneath a tree that was dropping stuff all over the chaises. But, we put our stuff on one chaise and went swimming. We got out of the water and sat down for about 15 mins while we drip dried. But we seldom take a chaise for each member of our group unless we are planning on spending a fair amount of time at the pool.

:thumbsup2 Yep, me too.
 
1: just because YOU think you only need one chair per family to stash stuff does NOT mean the next family that comes in does. and you have no right to impose YOUR idea of what is fair on others. as long as the resort allows for it, then it is what it is.

Let ME tell you what I'VE seen. Drives me crazy when I see a family of 2 adults and 3 kids come to the pool and they each put their towels on a lounger. They now have FIVE chairs tied up. The kids stay in the pool the ENTIRE 4 hours the family is there. Everyone gets out of the pool, pick their towels off the chair to dry off, then leave. This happens A LOT.

Now, I know it would be tough to enact a rule about that, it's just too bad more folks don't have some common sense.

One afternoon last June, me and the kids went down to the WL pool. EVERY single chair was taken, but less than 20 had a$$es in them.

If people want to get a chair and split their time 50/50 lounging and swimming, that's fine and dandy. My problem is the MANY folks who throw a towel on a chair and NEVER sit there.
 
I find this comment referring to non-deluxe guests inflammatory. This is a problem not just at deluxe resorts, but that is the level of resorts being discussed here.

We CHOOSE to stay at POFQ because that is where we feel most comfortable, for a variety of reasons. Please don't consider us riffraff, but then of course we would never consider invading your pool.

I think you are reading too much into that comment. Jazzielady didn't say where the non guests were from, just not that resort. I read it to mean anyone not registered at that resort which could be other Disney resorts or park visitors there to cool off.
 
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I find this comment referring to non-deluxe guests inflammatory. This is a problem not just at deluxe resorts, but that is the level of resorts being discussed here.

We CHOOSE to stay at POFQ because that is where we feel most comfortable, for a variety of reasons. Please don't consider us riffraff, but then of course we would never consider invading your pool.

Having never been in Kidani's pool, I don't consider it 'mine.' I don't go in the heat of the summer, so pool overuse has not been a problem where I have stayed (well, except for a chronic problem with pool towels running out at POFQ one year.) My observation is that some people are inconsiderate and greedy (and some are simply clueless) and that perhaps Disney could implement some changes to lessen the impact bad and/or clueless guests (where ever they are staying or not staying) have on other guests.
 
I think you are reading too much into that comment. Jazzielady didn't say where the non guests were from, just not that resort. I read it to mean anyone not registered at that resort which could be other Disney resorts or park visitors there to cool off.

That is how I read it too. Just a general term used to describe those who have not payed to stay at that resort and thus have access to the pool... and I am someone who chooses to stay Mod as well because I love POFQ even though I could afford to save up for a deluxe. :confused3

As for the pool issue... if the person who has claimed the chair is in the pool area, then I have no problem with it. If it is a situation where someone has put items on a chair to save it while they are NOT in the pool area, then the items should be removed by CMs so other guests can use them. So for me, I see it coming down to if the guest is at the pool area or not.
 
I find this comment referring to non-deluxe guests inflammatory. This is a problem not just at deluxe resorts, but that is the level of resorts being discussed here.

We CHOOSE to stay at POFQ because that is where we feel most comfortable, for a variety of reasons. Please don't consider us riffraff, but then of course we would never consider invading your pool.

I totally agree. My family could afford to and has in the past stayed at the deluxes.Thing is when you look at it the deluxes are not that good of a value and in fact the values have more of that Disney Magic imo.
 
We have never had this problem. I am pretty sure that we used 1 chair at Uzima for our whole family of 5, because most of us were in the pool most of the time. If people are actually in the pool or pool area, I dont have a problem with them reserving a reasonable number of chairs if they intend to use them at least sporadically. But I do think that moving other peoples belongings (not pool towels) is extremely rude, and should only ever be done by CMs if it is for some reason necessary.
 
"In consideration of other guests, please do not use belongings to reserve pool chairs."

I don't like others taking up chairs for the entire day either BUT - look at how the sign was worded. It's a request. Just like everything else at Disney World.

And that's what makes Disney World a good fit for me.

My husband has gone down to the pool area many times to read the newspaper and if he can't find a chair, he will look around and if there's only a towel over a chair, he'll put it aside and sit. He has yet to come across anyone who has had a problem with it. Mind you, this is NOT someone whose personal belongings are all over the immediate vicinity. If it looks like there is someone in the pool who "owns" the chairs, he'll leave it be. But if it's just a towel, then he'll sit.

Us Americans need to learn how to share.
 
"In consideration of other guests, please do not use belongings to reserve pool chairs."

I don't like others taking up chairs for the entire day either BUT - look at how the sign was worded. It's a request. Just like everything else at Disney World.

And that's what makes Disney World a good fit for me.

My husband has gone down to the pool area many times to read the newspaper and if he can't find a chair, he will look around and if there's only a towel over a chair, he'll put it aside and sit. He has yet to come across anyone who has had a problem with it. Mind you, this is NOT someone whose personal belongings are all over the immediate vicinity. If it looks like there is someone in the pool who "owns" the chairs, he'll leave it be. But if it's just a towel, then he'll sit.

Us Americans need to learn how to share.

Thank you :thumbsup2
 
..Us Americans need to learn how to share.
Hmmm, checking the facts and figures you should find the USA is one of the most giving-sharing countries in the world who reach out to help more than any other country in the world. When it comes to Disney its a cross roads of the world with guest from a large collection of countries of the world to experience a common interest. The pool chair issue sort of aligns to behaviors you find at parades, fireworks, shows, etc. It is something you find at similar events and activities outside of Disney. It is something you find in other countries too.
 
Wow! After starting this post, I am amazed at the strong opinions from both sides. And to clarify, I don't consider taking a dip here and there whilst you relax on a pool chair "not" using it. What IS extremely rude are the multitudes of examples regarding entire families hogging large groups of pool chairs and not using them, and people who reserve them and simply don't use them at all. Especially children who swim the whole time. You simply should not have to rudely "stake out" a chair at the break of dawn to relax at a pool. The idea regarding the cubbies is genius. I did not even know that people reserve them in the morning and then take off....that is horrible!

People are people anywhere you go. From the posts on this thread, they are obviously reasonable, show common sense, and are and kind and respectful to their fellow human beings...or they are just greedy and inconsiderate. And I am sure those of you who are will have a field day with that.
 
It's a POOL chair, therefore, if I'm using the pool, I have every right to put my belongings on a chair while I'm swimming.

Where, exactly, would you suggest that swimmers put their belongings while they're swimming. We can't exactly take our towels into the water with us.

And honestly, we paid as much for the "chair space" as the next person who doesn't want to swim.


It angers me when people reserve chairs and leave the pool area, but as long as you're in the pool area, I feel the chairs are fair game.

I agree with this. If I leave the pool area, then I should take my stuff with me.

And for me personally, I take a bottle of water to the pool with me, so that I don't even leave the area to go get something to drink. Course, I don't really spend very much time at the pool.
 
Wow! After starting this post, I am amazed at the strong opinions from both sides. And to clarify, I don't consider taking a dip here and there whilst you relax on a pool chair "not" using it. What IS extremely rude are the multitudes of examples regarding entire families hogging large groups of pool chairs and not using them, and people who reserve them and simply don't use them at all. Especially children who swim the whole time. You simply should not have to rudely "stake out" a chair at the break of dawn to relax at a pool. The idea regarding the cubbies is genius. I did not even know that people reserve them in the morning and then take off....that is horrible!

People are people anywhere you go. From the posts on this thread, they are obviously reasonable, show common sense, and are and kind and respectful to their fellow human beings...or they are just greedy and inconsiderate. And I am sure those of you who are will have a field day with that.

Don't ever go on a cruise....
 
Our family has just returned from a wonderful stay at WDW, we stayed at AKL Jambo House. My only complaints are, go figure, the behavior of guests and was wondering what others' experiences were. At two Disney swimming venues, most notably AKL Kidani Village, we had a terrible time with pool chairs. There are little signs everywhere that say basically "In consideration of other guests, please do not use belongings to reserve pool chairs." People were terrible about this! Families would drape belongings on whole swaths of chairs along the pool, and then go swimming leaving their chairs completely unoccupied. We walked around in circles looking for somewhere to put our things and for me to sit, and there was nowhere. Along the back of the pool, I saw one chair with only a hotel towel on the end of it, a kid sitting on a chair two chairs down and a man sitting on a chair four chairs down. I went ahead and sat on the chair and he rolled over, and told me it was taken. I finally went to a manager and asked him to make a polite announcement enforcing the guideline because I could not find a chair. I tried to explain to him that each family really only needs one chair if they are swimming on the pool, one is certainly enough to hold bags and shoes. He refused to make the announcement and said that people had the right to claim chairs. He then offered to find me chairs. Since he didn't seem to get the concept, I restated that I really only needed ONE chair for the four of us. He found us two. ???? After sitting down for a few minutes, I noticed other families walking around looking bewildered and frustrated, and went over to offer one woman my second, unneeded chair. People were finding places in the bushes to put their things! This is ridiculous. Why put they signs up if they don't mean anything? The non-helpful manager, James from New Jersey, may have helped me in the short term, but he did nothing for the other families wandering around trying to find just one chair for Mom or Dad to sit on. He only reinforced the rude behavior of the guest by condoning it, and he had a much greater responsibility than that. Having chairs near the pool is especially important for parents of school aged children who may be old enough to go into the pool alone, but you still want to keep an eye on them. And besides, those greedy families draping their stuff on five poolside chairs don't OWN them, so why aren't we allowed to move their stuff if they are not sitting in them, especially if it is only a hotel pool towel? We also found this problem at Typhoon Lagoon. Chairs should be for people who actually want to SIT in them, or one chair per family at most to hold belongings. With the expensive rates of Disney hotels, they should manage this better to better serve ALL of their guests, not just the rude ones.

Anyone had a better experience at another Disney hotel with a better enforced policy? I don't want to go to the Kidani Village pool again because of this.

To play devil's advocate a bit here:

My family consists of myself (26) and my parents. We often go to the pool and take three chairs, and a table with an umbrella.

While there are times that all three of us are occupying the chairs, there are also times when only one of us is there holding the place. We leave a bag and towels as well as an individual while the other two go off and swim.

Let's say you come along, looking for a chair for your family. I am occupying my table, with three chairs, but I'm only "using" one chair at that precise moment.

I shouldn't have to forfeit my mom or my dad's chair to you just because they aren't using them at that moment. They will return in 15 minutes or so and want to sit in the chair, in the sun and dry off.

At the water parks, we take three small chairs and we do sometimes leave them. Typically with a t-shirt, sandals and sunscreen in a small bag.

We will be using the chairs for the majority of our time there. However, on occassion we will all get up and want to hit the slides together. Because we have left our spot temporarily does not mean that your family should be entitled to it.

The only "chair saving" scenario that is really troublesome is when people drop off towels and minor persona items at about 7 or 8 am on their way to the theme parks and expect those chairs to be there for them when they come back in the afternoon for pool time.

It is not, under any terms, unreasonable for every member of a party to have and to "hold" a chair as long as they are in the pool area, or as long as they are in the water park.
 

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