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And how exactly is that ignorant? You messed up by allowing them to be picky.
I can tell you don't have kids. I was that person who was all like, my kid won't be picky, she'll eat what I put in front of her. Then I had my oldest. Now, I don't make two meals, but she just doesn't eat. A lot of it is her texture issues due to SPD, but my kid doesn't eat unless she likes it. And the adage she will eat when she is hungry doesn't work either. She would rather starve than eat food she doesn't like.
 
If anyone would be lying it would have been me at the ticket window and that is it.

No, because they might have asked every time the 10 year old went through the turnstiles. That is what they do.

I disagree with catering to picky eaters. If you don't allow them to constantly eat garbage on the kids menu and fead them real food, they'll eat it. Several of my friends have done that with their kids with zero problems.

Your friends do not have truly picky eaters.

Same mom: I ate everything I was asked to eat. 2 years later, my brother showed up and as a kid ate three or so foods. Peanut butter and honey sandwiches (once our lunches got mixed up and I ate his sandwich though it tasted vile, and he came home with mine because there was No way he was eating it though he was very hungry), hamburgers with only ketchup (he would not eat it if it had had anything else on it...if a tomato slice had been taken off he could taste it* and he refused), and something else. I once ate his potatoes for him when mom was out of the room because I just wanted dinner to be done.

Same mom, same situation, different kid.

My dad's next two kids were the same. They would NOT eat if they didn't want it. By the time my sister was born (when I was 25) dad and stepmom had given up lol.

And now? I, the one that ate everything no matter how it tasted or made me gag, have all the fun environmental allergies and some food allergies. As an adult I went vegetarian to limit the vile foods in my life. All the siblings? Ridiculously healthy, no allergies. Well no the first half brother has weak lungs but then he's the one of us that smokes. They protected their systems as children by being picky. I did not. And I pay the price.

"They may ask you or your kid at the turnstyles".

And when someone says that, it can still be read as "they'll ask so you'll have to ask the kid to lie" and the same conversation happens.

Even if OP told his kid to lie about his age, which he isn't,

He isn't because it's hardly a price difference, but he would have had to, because as you know, they ask the kids.

Kids menus should just be the regular menu with smaller portions and maybe fruit rather than fries.

They never have been. Kids have different palates. I remember how bell peppers used to taste to me. Nothing but bitterness. How could people eat them? As my tastebuds changed I could taste the sweetness in them.

My husband's mom was born in '38 and in rural Korea; you could not get a more old school person. Given that her youth was spent in a county occupied by the Japanese she was crystal clear that life isn't fair and if you're lucky you don't die right now. And yet she dipped the spicy foods in water so her kids could eat the food without hurting from the heat. Rinsed the kimchi, any spicy meat, etc, in water. Even she recognizes that kids have different tastebuds.

They used to hate spicy things and cry when I would make anything with even the slightest kick. Now they love it but go through more water at meal times.

Water isn't really helpful for spicy stuff in the mouth. Might look to dairy or perhaps some bread.



*that brother is so sensitive. He was upstairs in their huge house, riding his exercise bike in his closed-door bedroom. I peeled an orange. He started sneezing. He could smell it all the way upstairs and through doors. I don't bring oranges there anymore.
 
I guess parenting is just different now. I've heard so many stories from my mom who has taught elementary school over be last 30+ years. Parents nowadays are too protective, too coddling, too "soft".

Every kid has an allergy or is on the "spectrum" in some regard or is medicated. It seems ridiculous. But I digress. My mom made one meal for the family and you had to eat it. That's the way it is. If this was practiced more by parents, maybe we wouldn't have these issues. This is a first world issue. You can wax poetic all you want about how they're just picky eaters. But it's your job as a parent to mold them. It's your job to get them to eat what they should be eating. I highly doubt kids in countless other countries (western or otherwise) are eating chicken nuggets and Mac n cheese all the dang time. All these McDonald's commercials certainly don't help and the obesity epidemic in this country. Or the fact that so many parents both work and don't have energy or time to make a healthy wholesome meal.

You can give me all the **** you want for not having kids but even so, I'm around a lot of kids a lot of the time. I have observed the differences. It starts with the parents.
 

So my child is on the spectrum because I coddled him? I'm afraid your ignorance is showing.

How did a thread about trying to scam the system turn into this?
You're reading what you want to. I simply mentioned the influx of this. I'm not a scientist and can't tell you why but the two do not go hand in hand as you are suggesting. I'm comparing it to when I was growing up. There was no such thing as a "spectrum". Jesus.

There were no peanut allergies back then or what have you.
 
You're reading what you want to. I simply mentioned the influx of this. I'm not a scientist and can't tell you why but the two do not go hand in hand as you are suggesting. I'm comparing it to when I was growing up. There was no such thing as a "spectrum". Jesus.

There were no peanut allergies back then or what have you.

I think many people would have read it like I did. If that is not what you meant then I apologize.
 
Kids were allergic to peanuts in the past, just not as many. The reasons why these things are happening are many fold. Parenting does not cause a child to be on the spectrum. Parenting can, but not necessarily, cause picky eaters; it's not always a cause effect relationship. A lot of the health crisis in our nation is tied to the foods we eat. Our foods are laden with chemicals etc. We eat these foods while pregnant and nursing. We feed them to our kids when they're tots, etc. Even the healthiest items are full of pesticides. It is a product of our country, and terribly sad. It is changing slowly. I like to believe that as it changes you will find less kids with spectrum disorders, but that may not be the case either. We also have an indoor nation. Our world is so different now that the way kids play has changed, but their energy and aggression has not. This can cause poor behavior and other side effects. In any case, it's not much of a discussion for a Disney board.
 
I guess parenting is just different now. I've heard so many stories from my mom who has taught elementary school over be last 30+ years. Parents nowadays are too protective, too coddling, too "soft".

Every kid has an allergy or is on the "spectrum" in some regard or is medicated. It seems ridiculous. But I digress. My mom made one meal for the family and you had to eat it. That's the way it is. If this was practiced more by parents, maybe we wouldn't have these issues. This is a first world issue. You can wax poetic all you want about how they're just picky eaters. But it's your job as a parent to mold them. It's your job to get them to eat what they should be eating. I highly doubt kids in countless other countries (western or otherwise) are eating chicken nuggets and Mac n cheese all the dang time. All these McDonald's commercials certainly don't help and the obesity epidemic in this country. Or the fact that so many parents both work and don't have energy or time to make a healthy wholesome meal.

You can give me all the **** you want for not having kids but even so, I'm around a lot of kids a lot of the time. I have observed the differences. It starts with the parents.
You are being offensive. You have no clue what it is like to parent a child on the spectrum. No, I did not cause my child to have SPD. She was born that way. I would love to see you shove food down my child's mouth. That would be fun. And you would get bitten. My child actually does not eat McDonald's or any of that kind of food. You don't know how we struggle on a daily basis. And not even trained therapists can get my daughter to eat, so I don't see how it starts with the parents. And yes, we do make healthy meals. Nightly.
 
I guess we have come full circle in this thread now?

In not trying to be offensive. I think you're being overly sensitive to something not directed at anyone in particular. I was merely pointing out how there are more of certain things now. I don't even know what SPD is. And you, as the parent have a certain responsibility to feed your child certain things. I'm not saying YOU specifically don't. I'm sorry your kid can't eat for whatever reason but this is obviously an exception to the rule and you may have a valid excuse for why your kid is a picky eater. But the other 99% don't.
 
Kids were allergic to peanuts in the past, just not as many. The reasons why these things are happening are many fold. Parenting does not cause a child to be on the spectrum. Parenting can, but not necessarily, cause picky eaters; it's not always a cause effect relationship. A lot of the health crisis in our nation is tied to the foods we eat. Our foods are laden with chemicals etc. We eat these foods while pregnant and nursing. We feed them to our kids when they're tots, etc. Even the healthiest items are full of pesticides. It is a product of our country, and terribly sad. It is changing slowly. I like to believe that as it changes you will find less kids with spectrum disorders, but that may not be the case either. We also have an indoor nation. Our world is so different now that the way kids play has changed, but their energy and aggression has not. This can cause poor behavior and other side effects. In any case, it's not much of a discussion for a Disney board.
Exactly what I'm saying about kids menus. The food we feed them causes other things to happen because it is unhealthy and it also causes picky eaters. And the garbage we are sold in America disguised as good doesn't help.

The way kids play though, is a parenting issue. Perhaps it's slightly a technology and generational thing but if kids don't have Netflix and iPads and video games, they're forced to play outside. Also, these parents having CPS called for letting their kids walk two blocks to a park is just insane to me. Free range parenting for the win.
 
SPD is sensory processing disorder. And being "picky" for many kids is a sensory issue. For some children eating is difficult because of the texture of food, or the color, or any number of reasons that may not make sense, they just are. The reason you are offensive is because you have made blanket statements about things you do not understand. Spend some time understanding what it is like to have a special needs child before you make blanket statements.
 
I guess parenting is just different now. I've heard so many stories from my mom who has taught elementary school over be last 30+ years. Parents nowadays are too protective, too coddling, too "soft".

Every kid has an allergy or is on the "spectrum" in some regard or is medicated. It seems ridiculous. But I digress. My mom made one meal for the family and you had to eat it. That's the way it is. If this was practiced more by parents, maybe we wouldn't have these issues. This is a first world issue. You can wax poetic all you want about how they're just picky eaters. But it's your job as a parent to mold them. It's your job to get them to eat what they should be eating. I highly doubt kids in countless other countries (western or otherwise) are eating chicken nuggets and Mac n cheese all the dang time. All these McDonald's commercials certainly don't help and the obesity epidemic in this country. Or the fact that so many parents both work and don't have energy or time to make a healthy wholesome meal.

You can give me all the **** you want for not having kids but even so, I'm around a lot of kids a lot of the time. I have observed the differences. It starts with the parents.

My son is autistic AND eats very healthy foods. His favourite things to eat are blueberries and chicken tikka masala, so definitely not just "kids" food. I make one meal for our family and he eats it. So, random guy on the internet who has no kids...tell me how I could I have avoided having a child on the "spectrum"?
 
SPD is sensory processing disorder. And being "picky" for many kids is a sensory issue. For some children eating is difficult because of the texture of food, or the color, or any number of reasons that may not make sense, they just are. The reason you are offensive is because you have made blanket statements about things you do not understand. Spend some time understanding what it is like to have a special needs child before you make blanket statements.
Yes but your situation isn't the norm. Blanket statements would refer to the "norm". If you have a special situation, clearly you don't fall under those blanket statement and you're just looking to be offended.
 
My son is autistic AND eats very healthy foods. His favourite things to eat are blueberries and chicken tikka masala, so definitely not just "kids" food. I make one meal for our family and he eats it. So...tell me how I could I have avoided having a child on the "spectrum"?
You read that wrong. I never said that children's eating habits cause autism.

But at the same time, why are there so many autistic kids now?
 
I often wonder if some of the problems with our kids are caused by additives to our foods. There wasn't a lot of junk added to foods back when I was a kid. My family butchered our own hogs, killed our own chickens, gathered eggs from those chickens, and grew our own vegetables and fruits. No middle man to mess things up.
 
You read that wrong. I never said that children's eating habits cause autism.

But at the same time, why are there so many autistic kids now?

No, you claimed poor parenting was the cause of so many children with autism. You also said "My mom made one meal for the family and you had to eat it. That's the way it is. If this was practiced more by parents, maybe we wouldn't have these issues" which implies that poor eating habits was the reason we have these issues...and in the sentence right before that, you talk about how "Every kid has an allergy or is on the "spectrum" in some regard or is medicated."

But, enough of how you are trying to say that you never made a correlation between the increase in allergies and children being on the spectrum.

Your question about why there are so many children right now who are classified as autistic is not a simple one to answer. There are many factors that contribute to this, one of the main ones is that the DSM-5 (Diagnostic and Statistics Manual of Mental Disorders) is continually re-evaluating exactly what falls under the banner of "autism" and that banner keeps getting larger.

I dispute your claim that no one was autistic until recently. One of the first descriptions of a child with autism was from a collection of sayings by Martin Luther back in 1566. The earliest documented case of autism was in 1747. The word "autism" in the current usage dates to 1938. Speaking from person experience, I was in school with a quite clearly autistic boy back in the very early 80's and my cousin who was born in 1971 is also clearly on the spectrum.

What causes autism? No one is really sure but there has been some interesting studies that show a genetic predisposition to autism. Siblings of a child who is autistic have a much higher chance of also being autistic.
 
I often wonder if some of the problems with our kids are caused by additives to our foods. There wasn't a lot of junk added to foods back when I was a kid. My family butchered our own hogs, killed our own chickens, gathered eggs from those chickens, and grew our own vegetables and fruits. No middle man to mess things up.

This is what I was referring to. Even if you bought your food at a market 30-50 years ago it wasn't full of all the additives that foods are today. Sugar hides in everything sold at the store under a million different names. I don't believe that most parents are feeding their kids chicken nuggets and mac and cheese every day, even at the parks. I was thinking of how even the "healthy" foods like meat and vegetables are no longer natural. Additives are a real problem and some (like food colors) have been linked to specific disorders. I do not think that is a parent's fault. Even when you try really hard to feed kids healthy foods these things are hiding. This is a corporate and government issue.

As far as physical activity, I don't blame that entirely on parents either. The world is very different than it was 50 years ago. Yards are smaller, people feel it's unsafe to let their kids roam the streets, parents call the police on other parents for letting their kids play at the park without an adult, and schools have shortened recess time. We just live in this weird culture now. I'm only in my early 30's and my childhood was play outside with the neighbor kids afterschool and come home for dinner. I will tell you the reasons that isn't happening any more are not just because of video games and TV.
 
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