Adventure Club to reopen in MK?

[Figment632]

So Spirit is insistent that a new Adventurers Club experience will be coming to Adventureland in the Magic Kingdom, and according to him, it could come soon. He says that due to the pinch the MK is in with a lack of CS, this is getting very serious consideration.

My question is how they'll adapt the show for a CS restaurant, and whether or not we'll see any AC streetmosphere in Adventureland.

http://www.discussionkingdom.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2291

Well this has been a rumor for a while but it's starting to get a lot of talk.

My thoughts ate this is a terrible idea! You turn one of the best themed clubs ever to a QS!!!

Go from serving booze to chilen fingers and Fanta! I'd rather the Veranda stayed closed.

 

[MJMcBride]

I would love to see it replace the Rainforest Cafe at DAK myself

 

[Figment632]

I would love to see it replace the Rainforest Cafe at DAK myself

I like this idea.

 

[mcd2745]

A CS restaurant? That would be a travesty...a slap in the face, really.

 

[Figment632]

A CS restaurant? That would be a travesty...a slap in the face, really.

Especially since it would be QS not even TS!

 

[anthony2k7]

How, just HOW can they think a CS is going to work? The three key things about AC were the shows, the impromptu character interactions and the alcohol.

The first two involve people sitting/standing around waiting - just what you don't want at a CS! and the 3rd..... i assume isnt going to be possible any time soon.

 

[Figment632]

How, just HOW can they think a CS is going to work? The three key things about AC were the shows, the impromptu character interactions and the alcohol.

The first two involve people sitting/standing around waiting - just what you don't want at a CS! and the 3rd..... i assume isnt going to be possible any time soon.

lol oh I believe it might happen because it's stupid and makes no sense that is TDO's motto!

 

[Michael623]

AC without alcohol will never work, sober people will realize how lame it is. Sorry guys, I know you AC loyalists are totally into it, I just never got it. Good luck with your fight though. Although I think replacing RFC at AK with anything would be an improvement. RFC is an awful restaurant and having 2 on property is even more aggravating.

 

[Friend of Figment]

I think any reopening of an unused area in Magic Kingdom is better than letting it collect dust. Even more exciting is creating something new out of something old. An Adventure's club type restaurant, along with the reopening of the Tiki Room, is a welcome sight. Hopefully this is the start of more things to come from Disney.

 

[TisBit]

As I have said before, ANY reopening of the Adventurers Club (even at DTD) would most likely disappoint the AC Fanbase. I think if anything this will not be "the" adventurers club that everyone who knew the PI one remembers. Most likely it will just rehash the decorations/theme with no other indication that there was once a show or bar. I doubt they will break the "dry" MK idea....unless one of the other restaurants coming in makes them rethink it.

MK being dry has worked for 40 years without a major complaint from the population, so why mess with it.

 

[starwood]

No more Kungaloosh?

 

[Figment632]

A description from the source.

Just a few comments, since most of the bases have been covered.

I think it's very likely this project is gonna happen based on documents I've seen and talk I've heard. It gained steam when the elaborate and expensive Pirate-themed buffet redo for AV was killed and they simply added a few props at the taco stand across from PoC (you know, the place where you buy a taco salad that comes without the salad due to Disney trying to save money and WDW having the stupidest, theme park guests in the Disney Empire).

This is NOT gonna be the AC you loved at PI (if you did). It's not gonna be Trader Sam's at the DLH either. I don't quite get the comparisons anyway.

This is going to likely be a very similar deal to what is going into HKDL and what was once the Explorer's Club at DLP.

I did find it telling that the week I found out about this, props that had been for sale at Property Control were pulled back from the company.

This also is fills the need for more dining locales at MK, while making some fanbois happy as they sip overpriced juice drinks with tropical names and chow down on flatbreads and chicken fingers (BTW, anyone know why Disney serves 'flatbreads' now and not pizzas? I do, but curious as to whether anyone knows or can guess why.)

 

[Condorman]

This is why those who loved the AC don't deserve to have it back.

Everyone thinks it was some profit-generating venue and that Disney was foolish for shuttering it before its time. That Disney wanted to outsource DTD, particularly Pleasure Island, and the AC was a casualty of monetary warfare. Wrong. The AC was only open in the evening, thus killing off half of its potential revenue. It cost a lot to have cast members performing the shows and skits on a daily basis. The place did not accommodate enough guests to turn a healthy profit. All of these reasons lead to its closure. Furthermore, why would Disney -- which so many of you are convinced is only about the money -- close such a successful venture if it was doing so well? The building has sat empty for almost three years now when it could have been making money. That's proof it wasn't making money.

Now, there is a rumor of its possible rebirth, and how do the AC faithful reply?

"Oh, it's only CS? Then it's not worth it."

"Put it in the Rainforest Cafe." (which makes more money for Landry's and TDO than the AC ever did, btw).

"If they don't put on the shows, then they shouldn't bother. I want nothing to do with it."

So basically, according to you, Disney is damned if they do and damned if they don't. They can't bring back the old version because it was a failed business model, but they also can't do something new with it because it won't appeal to the fanboys of the original.

Get over yourselves. I highly doubt any of this will ever happen with the AC, but the best idea is turning the Adventureland Veranda area into an AC counter service (and, if not, then Tiana's, but that's another story). There probably wouldn't be any shows. There probably wouldn't be any adult aspects to the venue. Nevertheless, it is an excellent idea to re-purpose a dead pocket of the MK that has gone too long without usage, and bring back the spirit and decor of a concept that many of you seemed to enjoy. So again, I'll say get over yourselves. The AC as you knew it will never return. Be grateful and thankful to Disney for even considering a possible reprieve.

Why can't some of you just see the glass half-full? Is it really that difficult?

 

[TisBit]

This is why those who loved the AC don't deserve to have it back.

Everyone thinks it was some profit-generating venue and that Disney was foolish for shuttering it before its time. That Disney wanted to outsource DTD, particularly Pleasure Island, and the AC was a casualty of monetary warfare. Wrong. The AC was only open in the evening, thus killing off half of its potential revenue. It cost a lot to have cast members performing the shows and skits on a daily basis. The place did not accommodate enough guests to turn a healthy profit. All of these reasons lead to its closure. Furthermore, why would Disney -- which so many of you are convinced is only about the money -- close such a successful venture if it was doing so well? The building has sat empty for almost three years now when it could have been making money. That's proof it wasn't making money.

Now, there is a rumor of its possible rebirth, and how do the AC faithful reply?

"Oh, it's only CS? Then it's not worth it."

"Put it in the Rainforest Cafe." (which makes more money for Landry's and TDO than the AC ever did, btw).

"If they don't put on the shows, then they shouldn't bother. I want nothing to do with it."

So basically, according to you, Disney is damned if they do and damned if they don't. They can't bring back the old version because it was a failed business model, but they also can't do something new with it because it won't appeal to the fanboys of the original.

Get over yourselves. I highly doubt any of this will ever happen with the AC, but the best idea is turning the Adventureland Veranda area into an AC counter service (and, if not, then Tiana's, but that's another story). There probably wouldn't be any shows. There probably wouldn't be any adult aspects to the venue. Nevertheless, it is an excellent idea to re-purpose a dead pocket of the MK that has gone too long without usage, and bring back the spirit and decor of a concept that many of you seemed to enjoy. So again, I'll say get over yourselves. The AC as you knew it will never return. Be grateful and thankful to Disney for even considering a possible reprieve.

Why can't some of you just see the glass half-full? Is it really that difficult?

While I agree with your conclusions on the AC, there is no way it woudl stand on its own in its old form. It is also why I said that if it ever did come back, it would not be like the old one. There was no way for the club to generate the revenue needed on liqour sales alone. Maybe as a dinner theater with longer shows, etc it could return, but I am not sure it would draw the crowds needed.

Under the PI model it worked, becaue they shared resources, cover charges (old PI, not the catastrophy it became) and was a nice reprieve from the nightclubs and provided a different type of entertainment, similar to the CW. But neither were able to stand as a solo venue.

I sympathize with the fans of the AC and it is a shame that a unique experience had to die, but honestly it was not enough of a draw to save the concept of PI. The west side ultimately killed PI....maybe if a better master plan had been developed and PI was not sandwiched between the Marketplace and Westside it could have survived....but we can what if it all day long.

It will be entertaining to go into a CS and know the history of the theme and reminesce about the old AC....but it can and will never return like it was. Regardless of what Disney does, the fanbase of AC will be disappointed and the place would most likely fail.

 

[Figment632]

This is why those who loved the AC don't deserve to have it back.

Everyone thinks it was some profit-generating venue and that Disney was foolish for shuttering it before its time. That Disney wanted to outsource DTD, particularly Pleasure Island, and the AC was a casualty of monetary warfare. Wrong. The AC was only open in the evening, thus killing off half of its potential revenue. It cost a lot to have cast members performing the shows and skits on a daily basis. The place did not accommodate enough guests to turn a healthy profit. All of these reasons lead to its closure. Furthermore, why would Disney -- which so many of you are convinced is only about the money -- close such a successful venture if it was doing so well? The building has sat empty for almost three years now when it could have been making money. That's proof it wasn't making money.
Now, there is a rumor of its possible rebirth, and how do the AC faithful reply?

"Oh, it's only CS? Then it's not worth it."

"Put it in the Rainforest Cafe." (which makes more money for Landry's and TDO than the AC ever did, btw

"If they don't put on the shows, then they shouldn't bother. I want nothing to do with it."

So basically, according to you, Disney is damned if they do and damned if they
don't. They can't bring back the old version because it was a failed business model, but they also can't do something new with it because it won't appeal to the fanboys of the original.

Get over yourselves. I highly doubt any of this will ever happen with the AC, but the best idea is turning the Adventureland Veranda area into an AC counter service (and, if not, then Tiana's, but that's another story). There probably wouldn't be any shows. There probably wouldn't be any adult aspects to the venue. Nevertheless, it is an excellent idea to re-purpose a dead pocket of the MK that has gone too long without usage, and bring back the spirit and decor of a concept that many of you seemed to enjoy. So again, I'll say get over yourselves. The AC as you knew it will never return. Be grateful and thankful to Disney for even considering a possible reprieve.

Why can't some of you just see the glass half-full? Is it really that difficult?

Oh it's going to happen weather it's AC or called the Explorers club MK severly lacks places to eat. With in the next two years something will be there.

 

[skier_pete]

Count me among those that assumed we (AC fans) could complain all we want, but if it ever DID re-opened it would be in a changed enough form that we wouldn't really like anyway. Of course, I also thought they would never ever bring the Tiki room back...so I guess I still retain some hope.

From the little info given here - this sound like the AC in name only...I can handle the lack of alcohol, but you certainly can't put PG-13 humor into the MK...however, I would welcome back any version that would still have character interaction with an audience, though how they would do that in a CS format I am not sure. CS is all about turning over the Tables...getting people in and out. AC definitely would not provide that.

 

[Cricket2]

I still remember the juggler/balancing act that would show up prior to Fantasmic dressed as ToT Bellman on their way home from work. I'm thinking of that but with skips or bird keepers etc....

I'd welcome that in a heartbeat and I might even order a Uncrustable or Chixin sandwich while a gawk. 6 nugget minimum.

It's empty now, even bad is better than empty but they could surprise us.

 

[doconeill]

Someone mentioned this rumor over in the Theme Parks board...apparently I missed this post originally (too much time not actively reading lately)

I thought this location was being lined up for the Pixie Hollow replacement eventually, and possibly for relocated Princesses nearer term while they await their FL location (although I don't remember why they'd vacate the Main St. location before then)...

I will say that any sort of AC that opened that would have longer hours, like a L/D food location, could not possibly be an AC other than in name or superficial additions, as it would likely cost too much to have actors providing the quality entertainment over that long a period.

I DID think that if they turned AC into more of a dinner-only continuous show over hours similar to what it used to have (but time shift by a few hours to cover early dinner), so the actor costs are the same but there is more income from the food, then there was a better chance of it being closer to what we remember.

 

[Figment632]

^^

Why on earth would they put Pixie Hollow in AL?

 

[doconeill]

^^

Why on earth would they put Pixie Hollow in AL?

Just reporting what I had heard. It has no place in FL any more.