Aaron Sorkins quote: What did you think?

You generalized about teen girls, and there are alot of us on this board who are mother's, aunts, sisters, teacher's of teen girls. I'm not offended by your statements at all, I just don't think you have enough experience with teens to know what your talking about.

This is what has folks in an uproar, I suspect. You cannot paint an entire group with such a broad brush, and expect people not to comment.

I have a young teen DS (13). The young ladies in his class that we know (the girls he and his pals hang out with) are lovely. Smart, funny, athletic, etc. Yes, I've seen some of them in public in sweats, or pajama pants. I also historically see one of them at the soccer fields with a book in her hand ALL the time, as she does not LOVE watching her brothers play soccer, but goes to support them anyway. Is she OK because she's reading in public, despite the fact she has yoga pants on?
 
I see that you have apologized for offending, but you still get a jab in at me in that post:rolleyes:
I am sorry this upsets you, but yes, I truly would be upset/worried/frightened if i learned someone who drives the rout my child takes to school was paying such close attention to their clothing every day at the bus stop
that she knew how often each girl wore sweats or PJ pants vs. other bottoms. You are most likely totally harmless and just looking so you can criticize and point out to your little one what not to wear or something (I d life lessons things like that with my kids--I am not saying that is bad, though personally for me it would be other things because I think wearing sweats is a non issue--I would be pointing out the kids doing something dangerous and telling my kids how dangerous it is and I hope they are never that kid). Since fashion is apparently very important to you (odd, given your dislike of social stuff--seems contradictory:confused3) that is probably all that is going on with you and I can see that--but MOST people would never notice this or pay that much attention to the individual teens, so it still leaves a scary/creepy feeling for me. I think my feeling is reasonably valid and I am glad you are not getting stuck behind buses in my town.

I used to get caught behind the bus. I eventually started leaving 2 minutes earlier to avoid it:thumbsup2 Prior to that, I messed with the radio, looked at the elaves on the trees, glanced at teh kids getting on the bus, turned around and talked to my kids in the back seat, etc.--but I did not having an ongoing tally of who wears what in my head. Maybe I am the abnormal one:confused3


As for the "get over yourself" comment?! REALLY????? Pot meet kettle:lmao:



My daughter reads, on average, 4-5 novels a week. It used to be more but school and social things are taking up some of her times these days. Nonetheless I think you could say she is an avid reader. You will almost never see a book in her hand though; she reads on her kindle. So do most of her friends (most seem to read a book, for fun, every week or two).
When I worked at a small town library in the US, the patrons who checked out the most books were parents with preschoolers, followed by teens. Yep, TEENS. They read a lot more than the adults. Those parents were checking out books to read to their preschoolers, but not anything to read themselves (understandably--it is hard finding the time when you have a preschooler). SO, the group which was actually reading to themselves the most was by far and a way the teens.

But it wasn't. It was half a question about the quote and half an unrelated slam on teens. People are responding to that second half--the one you deleted when you found out people did not agree with you acessment (people with actual regular contact with large groups of teens).

They jab is well deserved and the fact that you don't see how screwed up an accusation like that is even more disturbing. It's the same 5 kids every am.draggin on to the bus. VERY hard to miss.
 
And to clear it up the assoication with attire and wanting to succeed clealry has gone over many heads. Ever heard of the phrase "dress to impress"? Yes they are only in HS or MS whatever it may be but how you dress is a reflection of yourself. Yes, if I'm going to the gym or grocery shopping I'm wearing sweats. Things have become "relaxed" in my eyes when it comes to even dressing. If you don't have pride in how you look, whats next? All that seems to matter to SOME teens is what phone they have. It's very rare to see a teen with a book in their hand and TO ME it's just sad to see girls this way.
AND IT ALL GOES BACK TO WANTING MORE! Or being ELITE.

Who exactly are they supposed to be impressing? As others have mentioned, sweatpants are very popular right now. Some of them are surprisingly expensive. To other teens they are impressive. To some adults they are impressive, or at least acceptable - haven't you seen the photos of actresses out and about in their Juicy Couture sweats? You don't think actresses dress in "real life" they way they do at work, do you? They dress the way they think is appropriate for their surroundings, just like most teens do.

I really don't understand how "dressing to impress" has anything to do with being smart or reading. I've known some people who know everything about fashion and dress to impress every day but who are dumber than a box of rocks. And then there are the smart people who look like they got dressed during an earthquake in whatever they happened to grab in the dark at a flea market. The way someone dresses really doesn't have anything at all to do with how smart they are. As for reading, it doesn't surprise me that the kids at the bus stop don't have books in their hands. I'm a voracious reader and always have a book or kindle (plus my phone and ipod with kindle apps on them) in my purse but I wouldn't try to stand around at the bus stop and read, nor would I expect anyone else to.


How do you people remember who starts what threads? I have a few people on the boards I am friendly with and I remember their posts, but everyone else is generally just a blur to me.

I don't remember most posters but I certainly remember the OP, just because her posts are very distinctive. Each time lately that I've been surprised by how judgemental a post seems, she's the one who posted it.
 
Sweat pants and pj's at school are a great idea. Shouldn't the kids be concentrating on LEARNING and not having a fashion show?
 

I just want to say that my DD13 wears her $85 Roots sweatpants (present from grandma) with her $250 UGG boots (bought with money she earned herself). It is a style, it's a fad, whatever you want to call it. But it's expensive to look bummy!

My DD likes to look good before she goes out the door. She wakes up early to make sure her hair is styled nicely, she applies light makeup, and is always dressed well.
My DD is also a big bookworm, is an A student, and plays competitive soccer year round.

What about the current style for the boys where the waistline of their pants is halfway down their butt! (Justin Bieber wears them) It is an awful look! But it's the current style. They think it's cool, so they all wear them.

What the OP may think of as girls not caring about how they look is WAY OFF. They do care and they all want to be in the latest styles and fit in.
The OP, which I assume is a first time Mom according to her other posts, seems to have a BIG PLAN for her 1 year old daughter. Yes, I had a plan too!
However, the reality of parenthood and raising children comes with many bumps along the road. Some good, some bad and sometimes you just have to go with the flow!
 
Yes, I had a plan too!
However, the reality of parenthood and raising children comes with many bumps along the road. Some good, some bad and sometimes you just have to go with the flow!
LOL......I had a plan too, but my 3 DD's had different plans for the last 21 years on many days!
 
I'm pretty sure those girls waiting for that bus don't give a rat's patootie what you think about their sweatpants.

LOL, I just can't imagine scoping out the bus stop scene for fashion don'ts. OP, stop messing with us and just admit you're a 14 yo girl/boy.

And I love "The Rule"...
 


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