I think since you know me, you know (as does most everyone around here) that I am kidding. It's like budget board or slick deals - everyone talks about some really great product you were blissfully unaware of and now you find you MUST have it. It isn't because of WHO has it, but because everyone who has spoken about it are such great salespeople. Kevin - I think you felt that way about your new "coffee maker", no? I am easily persuaded, what can I say? Kevin, you talked about the great attributes about your Donner bag a while ago so I drove 1 1/2 hrs away to the closest REI store to check one out in person and snag one. If anything, I was merely poking fun at people like myself who happen to be be *sigh* in every one of the collectives. I remember a time when I was blissfully unaware of these great but expensive products. Of course, now, I'm sitting at my table typing on my iPhone, drinking a great cup of coffee knowing I can read a book anywhere I want on a fabulous eReader and later when I get off work I will be playing with my Wii.