A hypothetical situation

[VGCgroupie]

The logic with owning at the same location has been mentioned several times to you in your various posts.

You want to first own enough points in said location to ensure that you can secure the type of accomodation at the time of year you want.

For you that is staying in a 1 bedroom at BRV during December and assuming that is not between Christmas Eve and New Year's Day that would mean you need a minimum of 232 points.

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Yes even though you are wanting a one bedroom these actually do book up rather quickly for your time period do to the holidays and low point costs.

After you have secured enough points to ensure you can get what the accommodation and view type at the resort you want and during the time frame you want to go then you can diversify your portfolio.

It doesn't make sense to buy CCV, AUL, VGF, SSR or anywhere in my mind until you have the 72 more points at BRV. Yes it can certainly make financial sense to do so and use them as SAP but you can't guarantee that you will be able to book BRV with those points. Perhaps you could if you were going in a lower demand season but for the travel plans you have laid out it is certainly no guarantee.

I am more laughing at not knowing what to buy as you seem to ask about different options repetively.
I have no problems with you not wanting to stay at CCV. If it doesn't work for you that is fine. Many were just suggesting the CCV for SAP because of your love for the lodge and the fact that the length of contract was longer and you could end up selling it in 2042 when you could no longer exchange into BRV. Also the dues are $0.70 less which does add up.


You are welcome.

While I realize you were being sarcastic we seriously are trying to help you.

DVC is a big investment not just in money but in time with all of the planning. We just want you to be comfortable with what you end up doing whether it is buying more SAP or more BRV or just holding out for awhile until you grow more comfortable with this great product that Disney offers.

Yeah I dont think anyone said buy BRV and CCV, it was buy CCV instead of BRV. When she mentioned she can still cancel due to being within the 10 day cancel timeframe. We also thought she wasn't trying to get the cheapest points up front because she began with asking about buying RIV direct. Hard to help when someone is all over the map and gets aggravated when sound advice from people with experience is given.

 

[melissa70]

Yeah I dont think anyone said buy BRV and CCV, it was buy CCV instead of BRV. When she mentioned she can still cancel due to being within the 10 day cancel timeframe. We also thought she wasn't trying to get the cheapest points up front because she began with asking about buying RIV direct. Hard to help when someone is all over the map and gets aggravated when sound advice from people with experience is given.

I’m not aggravated. And yes I’m all over the map, this is confusing to me for some reason. I just didn’t appreciate the snarkiness. I’m not an expert like you and others and I apologize if I’ve annoyed people with the questions

 

[VGCgroupie]

I’m not aggravated. And yes I’m all over the map, this is confusing to me for some reason. I just didn’t appreciate the snarkiness. I’m not an expert like you and others and I apologize if I’ve annoyed people with the questions

I do think the advice given at the beginning of your first thread was the best advice, wait. We all know how hard it is to wait when entering the DVC world. But waiting since you aren't 100% sure is the best option especially given the resale market right now is currently leaning a sellers market and prices are higher than they probably will be in a few months. You will get more for your money by waiting just a few months. Dues info will be released soon, none of us can predict which resorts will get big increases in dues or which may even see a decrease in dues. That is a big deal when deciding where to buy since dues make up majority of the money spent on a contract. Lastly, when you buy resale now you have pay next years dues to the title company up front which adds alot to your right now price and you cant pay by credit card or gift cards to save money on those dues. There are so many good reasons to wait.

 

[Sandisw]

I’m not aggravated. And yes I’m all over the map, this is confusing to me for some reason. I just didn’t appreciate the snarkiness. I’m not an expert like you and others and I apologize if I’ve annoyed people with the questions

The best advice is to keep asking questions and know that everyone here views it differently in what is important when deciding!

We did not consider resale value in our equation. We didn’t buy the cheapest either.

DVC is just too expensive to buy something not at the top of your list because financially it could be seen as “better”.

We own RIV, both direct and resale, and know that if we decide to ever sell we willl need to sell for less than we bought.

But, we love it and it was worth owning there over others and feel anyting of purchase we get back is a bonus.

The good thing is that you know you have enough BRV to make it work for you so now you can view a second resort with potentially a different lease!!

 

[AstroBlasters]

I have enough to stay every year for 5 nights or alternate years for longer..I’m good with that, I’ve decided

In a one bedroom?

 

[melissa70]

In a one bedroom?

Yes if I stay sunday thru Thursday or I could borrow and go every other year

 

[AstroBlasters]

Yes if I stay sunday thru Thursday or I could borrow and go every other year

So…. if you stay certain times of year…. and never stay on a weekend night…. and then stalk with SAPs after 7m…. that’s a lot of constraints vs just buying more at the same home resort….

 

[intamin]

Yes if I stay sunday thru Thursday or I could borrow and go every other year

 

[byurick]

I also don't have a ton of points so my wife and I will do sun-thurs trips as well.

 

[mkatsy]

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I curse the trip we got pixie dusted to a two bedroom, now my family is acting like a one bedroom is some major inconvenience - nicely played Disney

 

[AstroBlasters]

I curse the trip we got pixie dusted to a two bedroom, now my family is acting like a one bedroom is some major inconvenience - nicely played Disney

When your youngest looks at you with big eyes and a little quiver in his lip and says at dinner “Da, I really like the 2 bedrooms and the 3 bedrooms because I can have my own real bed….”

 

[melissa70]

So…. if you stay certain times of year…. and never stay on a weekend night…. and then stalk with SAPs after 7m…. that’s a lot of constraints vs just buying more at the same home resort….

So are you telling me that everybody has 250 points plus in their home resorts?

 

[melissa70]

Maybe I should just cancel it then. Obviously I don’t know what the f**k I’m doing

 

[AstroBlasters]

So are you telling me that everybody has 250 points plus in their home resorts?

No, some people stay in studios or only travel once every three years. But…. if a family wants to travel to a 1 bedroom every year and wants some flexibility with the dates & the ability to also stay in some of the higher point chart resorts from time to time then they will want to own enough points to do that.

If you really want to own at SSR and play the 1 bedroom SAP game then go for it! But…. 150 points at a home resort is likely not enough to stay 5 nights in a 1 bedroom every year without applying additional travel limitations on yourself.

 

[AstroBlasters]

Maybe I should just cancel it then. Obviously I don’t know what the f**k I’m doing

That escalated quickly….

 

[melissa70]

I’ve heard a lot(not on this board) that people rarely book 11 months out and even if they do, they are always changing their reservation

 

[PolyRob]

I’ve heard a lot(not on this board) that people rarely book 11 months out and even if they do, they are always changing their reservation

Look at availability calendars for AKV value and club rooms, BCV studios, BWV boardwalk view + grand villas, VGF deluxe studios in the winter, BLT resort view, CCV studios, Riviera resort view, etc and see how early people book.

Everything involving Disney is "early bird catches the worm" to me. DVC, cash room discounts, dining, recreation, lightning lanes, etc.

 

[eticketplease]

I’ve heard a lot(not on this board) that people rarely book 11 months out and even if they do, they are always changing their reservation

This all depends on the family and their home resort.

If their home resort is AUL and they are trying to stay at SSR what would be the point of booking a stay in Hawaii when you really are trying to go to Florida?

Also if you are a Boardwalk owner for example and you enjoy the Pool/Garden (now preferred) you know you can wait a few months and still secure your room before people can 7 month into your resort as there are a lot of that view type.

 

[cruisehopeful]

Maybe I should just cancel it then. Obviously I don’t know what the f**k I’m doing

We're all just trying to save you some hassles that come up later. Many people on this board have bought and sold contracts, trying to hit the sweet spot of what works best for them. Getting a bargain is very important for some. Always getting a particular room type in a particular location is important to some. Visiting every resort is important to some people. Unfortunately, figuring all that out kind of comes with using the product.

I initially bought a 50 point Poly resale so I could do a 4-5 night stay in a studio every 2-3 years. Guess what I have never done. I've never booked a 4-5 night stay at the Poly. A GREAT thing buying that contract did for me was give me front line access to buy VDH when it finally came available for purchase.

I wanted 100 VDH points, but I bought 150 because I wanted direct benefits and I seriously thought that I could sell my 50 point Poly if I had too many points. That's a knee slapper now.

VDH and VGC are 90 miles from my home. I visit DL regularly and often. I had been using my Poly points for VGC and after staying at VDH a couple times, I realized that I needed more points. Buying VGC seemed unrealistic, but after a few conversations with my husband, he pointed out that I really wanted VGC and that I needed more direct points to avoid being locked out of extra stays to VDH. I purchased 160 resale VGC and 100 direct points for VGC. While waiting for those contracts, I became impatient and bought 75 points direct for Poly, thinking it was the best deal on direct points at the time.

I'm not currently planning on buying or selling anything, but I believe that I would be better off without Poly and just more VGC and VDH. I almost despise my 50 point Poly because it's resale, so I can't use it wherever I want and because the new rooms at the tower are so expensive. Yes, I could use it at the old studios like I intended, but I prefer the overall resort at other locations after seeing them. I didn't go in blind when buying the 50 point Poly. It was a good decision at that point in time (only 4 years ago). My priorities have changed a lot since then and even changed a lot in just this past year when buying my last 3 contracts.

We're just trying to help you get what you want. Like a said in the beginning of this book, some of it you'll learn while you use the product. I kept getting stuck on the buy in cost and overlooking that just because what I wanted was the most expensive, it was what I wanted, and it would be stupid to spend tens of thousands of dollars on something that was just a runner up.
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[cruisehopeful]

I’ve heard a lot(not on this board) that people rarely book 11 months out and even if they do, they are always changing their reservation

This is true to a point. Travel time and room type make a big difference. I've booked my resort at 10-11 months and changed it at 7 months if I wanted to try something else.

I had a nice at Beach club booked 7 months out that I was very happy about. A week before, I changed it to BW because I kept reading that people were rope dropping the pool at BC and that was too ridiculous for me.