A Few Thoughts on a Good Week of Shooting

MarkBarbieri

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We recently returned from our Spring Break trip to Monterey, California. As is my habit on vacation, I took a lot of pictures. I think the final total was just north of 4,500. I did some experimenting with styles and perspectives on that trip and I thought I'd share some of the thinking behind some of my shots. Hopefully it will serve as an inspiration for some of you (even if it just inspires you NOT to do what I did). The complete set of about 600 "keepers" is here.

One thing that I love to do when I'm in that area is take long exposure shots of the sea. Early in the morning or late in the evening, you can capture long exposures of the waves crashing into the coast. The appearance of the water changes dramatically for longer exposures. Just about every photography book tells you to do this for waterfalls, but no one seems to mention the sea.

In this first shot, I took at 25 second shot at f/13. The surf was roaring that morning with good size waves pounding the shore. During the 25 seconds of my picture, the white froth of the waves was captured as a white mist drifting above a tranquil looking sea.

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This closeup shot of some rocks was taken at 15 seconds and f/16. It was a clear, crisp morning, but the long exposure transformed the waves into an ethereal fog draped over the rocks.
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Getting even closer, I increased the shutter speed to 1/5 of a second. At this speed the water no longer looks like a mist. Now the photo shows the roiling, swirling motion of the water. I moved from rocky area to rocky area looking for places where the waves created interesting swirling patterns like this one.

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In this 4/10 second shot, I captured water flowing over a rock in what looks almost like a waterfall in the ocean.
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This is a 1 second shot taken at the rocky shoreline. I took the shot just as the water started to recede from the shore.

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Here is an evening shot. The water was relatively calm, so you don't see the "mist" formed by the wave tops. The bright section was caused by the moonlight reflecting across the water. This shot was 25 seconds.

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I also tried some long exposure suffer shots. I set the camera on a tripod, switched the IS to panning mode, and took some long exposure panning shots. This was taken at 1/8 second. I should probably have stuck to faster shots, but the surfers don't move all that fast, and I wanted a lot of blur. I should mention that with the bright light, I needed a very dark neutral density filter to get the shutter speed long enough for this shot.

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I got frustrated with the panning shots after a while because I had so much trouble with them. For grins, I tried one long exposure shot with the camera steady letting the wave and surfer move in the frame. I thought the result was interesting and show promise for the technique. I wanted to go out and shoot more later in the week, but I never had the right combination of light, surf, and surfers. The shot I have is nothing special, but I think some variations like shorter exposures and including more in focus and non-moving foreground and background would be cool.

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Another thing that I tried to do on the trip was to use different perspectives that I normally do. I rarely shoot wide and when I do, I'm rarely happy with the results. I studied some wide shots that I like (including several on this site) and noticed that they almost all had interesting foreground objects. I also remembered a few shots I had of my kids from a prior beach trip where I used a really wide angle held close to them.

Here is a shot that I took with my widest lens at it's widest setting (17mm - 22mm equiv on full frame). I held the camera low, ran along side my son, and just guessed at the framing. The light was bright, so I wasn't really worried about the shutter speed while I ran. I had to crop the shot some because I aimed a little high. If you try this technique, take a lot of shots and expect some with chopped off heads, arms, etc.

There are a few things that make the shot work for me. First, my son dominates the picture. He's not some little figure off in the distance. Second, the low angle makes him look "viewer sized" instead of like someone we're looking down on. Finally, the wide angle included a good section of background to provide a nice setting.

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Here's a static shot of my younger son using the same technique. Once again, I like his scale in the picture, the fact that we are seeing him at his level, and the inclusion of the background. It was late in the day when I took this shot and he was in the shadows. I used the flash to lighten him up. Ideally, I should have used an off camera flash held higher because his leg is lit more than his face, drawing attention to the wrong place. I didn't have my off camera flash cord with me, so my options were limited. I think next year I'm going to bring a wireless flash transmitter.

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In addition to the wide, low, and close shots, I still took a lot of shots with my telephoto lens. Here is one that I took trying to make him look small and alone in front of a empty sea.

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Here is a shot I took zoomed in tight but from a very low perspective again.

I should point out that I was literally laying on the same shooting from inches above the sand. I wouldn't recommend doing this with most cameras. It's impossible to keep the sand off of the camera and sand is really, really evil stuff for cameras.
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Here is a ground level shot of him jumping.

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I also tried a wide angle shot from almost ground level to create a "giant" kid shot. It's an amusing perspective, but it definitely has a gimmicky look that wears thin quickly.

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I did a lot of shooting at the aquarium. It's a frustrating place to shoot because there is never enough light, the light is weird, and the glass is thick and distorting. I found the best results came from sticking the camera directly on the glass and shooting whatever was straight in front of me. Tilting the camera never seemed to work well. People probably thought I was a freak the way I'd move my camera up and down and side to side trying to set up a shot, but then, I'm kind of used to that.

This shot was at ISO 800, 50mm, f/2.5, and 1/30 of a second. There are a lot of things that could be improved (more DOF, faster shutter speed, more light on the top of the jellyfish, etc), but I still like it. It's actually upside down, but I think they look better this way.

The picture provoked a neighbor to ask me if I shot it through the glass. The only answer I could think of worthy of the question was "No, they let me swim in the jellyfish tank so that I could get a clear shot."
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If you want to see more Aquarium shots, you can see them start here.

I never did have a really pretty sunset while we were there. I've found that on cloudless nights, the sky is usually a boring subject. The water, however, can be interesting when it captures the red/orange glow of the setting sun.

Here is a shot that I got of a seal hanging out on a rock at sunset. The shot was taken at f/5.6, 125mm, 1/25 seconds at ISO 100. I wanted a relatively slow shutter speed to get a little blur and softening in the water, but not enough to catch movement in the seal.

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Here's a shot that I took with my widest lens aimed downward. I wanted to capture a lot of foreground and show Bird Roost (the big, white rock) off in the distance. I like the shot, but I think that it only works because I know the scale of what I'm looking at. To someone that has never been there, it probably just looks like a bunch of rocks and water.

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All I can say is, WOW. Beautiful shots. This is why is DID NOT include my shot of the jellyfish in my Newport Aquarium thread. :worship:

Thank you for the commentary. I enjoyed reading your thoughts very much.
 
Mark,

Great shots as usual! I have one question. How dark is it when you take the ocean shots at 25 seconds? What aperture do you use for these shots? I would think that either it is quite dark and you shoot rather wide open or it is somewhat light and you are shooting with a tiny aperture.

Again, great shots!


Andy
 
Do you use neutral density filters or just limit your long exposure shots of the sea to dawn/dusk/night?

Great stuff, by the way. Thanks for sharing.
 

nice and i like the different perspective shots...a guy on zenfolio named steve hale did some nice stuff with kids jumping with the light behind them( called dancing girl or something similar)...reminded me some of you boys' shots...as usual, love the misty ocean and i'm impressed even more by you calling it ethereal;)
 
All I can say is, WOW. Beautiful shots. This is why is DID NOT include my shot of the jellyfish in my Newport Aquarium thread. :worship:

Thank you for the commentary. I enjoyed reading your thoughts very much.

For what it's worth, I was very impressed with your aquarium shots. You got some great fish shots. I didn't really get any decent fish shots.
 
Mark,

Great shots as usual! I have one question. How dark is it when you take the ocean shots at 25 seconds? What aperture do you use for these shots? I would think that either it is quite dark and you shoot rather wide open or it is somewhat light and you are shooting with a tiny aperture.

Again, great shots!


Andy


Do you use neutral density filters or just limit your long exposure shots of the sea to dawn/dusk/night?

Great stuff, by the way. Thanks for sharing.


I get most of my long exposure shots by going out around sunrise. I used neutral density filters for the surfer shots, but not for the others. Low light levels and moderately small apertures (f/8 to f/16) and low ISO (100 or 200) were usually sufficient.

It would be hard to get a really, really long exposure on a sunny day with an ND filter. Using the "sunny 16" rule, a sunny day gives you a 1/125 second exposure at ISO 100. To get to a 15 second shot, you need about 11 stops of filtering. That's a really dark filter. Even on a cloudy day, you'd need to drop a good 8 or 9 stops.

Ideally, you want to avoid using an ND filter (one more surface for flare and relections) and really small apertures (diffraction effects cut into your sharpness). With my camera, I can drop the ISO as low as 50, but below 100 it actually loses a little dynamic range, so I prefer to stay at 100. The ideal shot for me would be ISO 100, f/8, no filters, the shutter speed that I want for the effect that I want.
 
Mark
I think your work is great. I just wanted to say thanks for sharing, not only your work but the rationale and technical aspects of the shots. I am new to photography and have been reading on this board for a few months now (mostly lurking). This thread (along with many of the other ones) is helping me to get a better understanding of both composition and the technical aspects of exposure. Thank you for sharing your pictures and your thoughts on how and why you took them.
 
Fine work Mark- I enjoyed the second shot of the rocks and the one of your boy sitting looking out at the ocean particularly. Thanks for taking the time to share the pictures and your insight.
 
Some beautiful shots Mark, certainly inspirational for me! Thanks also for the explanations, especially on the long exposures. The light in the first shot is beautiful. I really want to try doing some long exposures, so your examples and explanations are very helpful.

On a side note, you mentioned using extenders on your 70-200 lens with some of these shots, and I was wondering if you could point out which ones they are, or post some if you haven't already.

Thanks again for sharing!
 
Wonderful pictures and very helpful explanations. I have not taken any long exposure shots but I want to give it a try with some waterfalls.
 
Neat thread. I live near the ocean and shoot there a lot. I've really never thought of doing something like this but seeing these I'll likely give it a try. Thanks for sharing your beautiful photos and shooting tips. :thumbsup2
 
Mark - As always, I love your photos and especially love the writing you do. I learn so much from you. Thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge and beautiful work!
 
Mark,

Great shots! Thanks for sharing not only the pictures but your thoughts as well. I will be out there in two weeks so this has me thinking. I love #3 and really like your use of the wide angle. I tend to shot close but with this trip I will have a new 12-24 so I am hoping to stretch out of my comfort zone. I was disappointed to hear the aquarium lighting is such a challenge but I will be sure to get close to the glass as you suggest. Your neighbor’s question is a compliment to the clarity of your shot, just without thinking first…

Thanks again for posting.
 
Mark,

As expected, fantastic shots. I've been wanting to take some long exposure shots of waves crashing on shore for some time. Those shots certainly inspire me to get out as soon as posible to try some.

We have a great location for them too, Peggy's Cove, a really beautiful spot.

Can't thank you enough for offering your tips and experience and I look forward to seeing and reading more.
 
The picture provoked a neighbor to ask me if I shot it through the glass. The only answer I could think of worthy of the question was "No, they let me swim in the jellyfish tank so that I could get a clear shot."


You should have asked the staff if you could. You could have mentioned that you're the 2008 Disboards Weekly Photo Contest - Villains winner (who's photo really lost to the 2nd place winner from two years ago)" - a direct quote from Mark's ad for Barbieri's Photography.


sorry, I couldn't resist. :rotfl:



Awesome pic's by the way. :thumbsup2
 
Excellent job once again Mark. To many to say which I liked best. I enjoyed not only the pictures, but the story behind the picture as well.

I'll try to keep these in mind for my future picture taking efforts.

Thanks for sharing.
 
Mark, I tried to get some long exposure shots at the ocean last night, triopod and all, but came up woefully inadequate (screen was black). I'm sure I was setting the exposure incorrectly, but I'm not sure why, will have to check my owner's manual.

Anyway, the sun had set so I followed the color to a different, nearby location and was able get these (handheld). I wished I'd composed them a little differently, but hey, live and learn. I liked the color, at least. I might try again tonight. Any thoughts are welcome.

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