A "Fairytale Comparison"

[chris1gill]

Originally posted by Chuck S
Absolutely true Rascalmom.

If you are a renter, the FT is a good deal, assuming you're paying $10 per point. But for DVC members, whose true cost is much lower, it is not such a great deal - especially since many DVCers vacation for more than 7 days per year and use APs instead of UHPs.

The FT package isn't always a brgain for a renter... DVC Studio's are still the better deal even paying 10 per point... the 1 bedroom's on the other hand look to be better under the FT plan...

 

[TnRobin]

Okay - I called about a 1BR - everything else the same - $2451

Using $10 rental value and Carol cost for my tickets = $2640
Using my $5 cost value and Carols ticket cost = $1780

So a 1BR would still be better for me as a owner, but not as a renter.

By the way - I did as an example - I am sure that with some mixtures of adults/kids the numbers may be different.

 

[rascalmom]

Chuck S - I absolutely agree, over the long run DVC ownership will definitely beat anything Disney throws at us in the way of specials. For our family this year, the AP's would have only been used for this one trip & the days we would visit the parks would be the same as will be covered by our UMP's. We have done PAP's in the past, but on those years we were planning multiple trips. The UMP's actually will be better for us this time than regular PH's - we really like to spend a couple of hours at DQ & the waterparks in the afternoon several times in a trip. My net benefit is that I think this 1bd. stay may tip this scales with my husband on buying into DVC.

 

[stlrod]

Originally posted by chris1gill
This is actually not correct information.... to stay 7 nights with the package is 2339.00 for 2 adults.

The same 7 nights in a preferred BW view is 200 points, the DVC discounted UMP is $657.00, the DVC *Rental* price is 2657.00 if you look at the points costing $10.00 each (so it is more, but only by 300.00 NOT 1000)... I however figure our cost to be 5.50 per point, far below that 10 dollar figure...

Actually, I don't think I'm wrong. Seven nights in a 1BR in July is 270 points, not 200 (200 would be for September). Thus, the $1000 difference would be correct (I used 7/14-21 as my dates.) There probably is some fluctuation based on the dates of the package.

I was wrong about 2 BRs not being included on the plan. I was able to pull up a 2BR at OKW for 7/14-21. The price was $2777.87. That would be a total of 296 points (which would rent for $2960.) Thus, the difference is about a $1000 there also.

I could probably make an argument that the 10% discount shouldn't be considered. Some might think its value is outweighed by the daily housekeeping you get as a guest of Disney.

What is interesting is that with the AP rates announced today, the All-Stars, moderates, WL, AKL are deeply discounted, the 3 newest DVC properties are not as deeply discounted (about 25%, the same as we get) and OKW is somewhere in between with the OKW studios being pushed at $159.

Not trying to start an argument here (after, I am an owner.) I just wanted to draw attention to the fact that more than one comparison should be made (hopefully, without offending anyone.) Let's face it, the value of any timeshare owner is the value the owner places on it.

 

[CarolMN]

IMHO, the FTP is/should be more of a concern to those who rent their points than owners who use their points for their own vacations. It brings home the statements in the paperwork that we all signed regarding "competing with Disney". As others have already mentioned, unless the discounts continue indefinitely, DVC is still a good long term value.