A&E Stampede this morning was insane!!!

Oh my gosh, I had no idea it was a mad dash at rope drop. Craziness!!

I was thrilled when they opened up more FP+ the day after they moved to MK. I was able to score them for our whole party and it was only 10 days before our trip. I was not looking forward to standing in line all day, my daughter is obsessed with A&E and all things frozen so for us it was #1 fast pass to get. She’s almost 8 and knows they are not real but she’s so looking forward to it!!

FWIW, we've seen A & E 3 times now at MK (with FP+) and we have a 2 year old. We've been there to see the morning show 2 of the three times, and we got into the park and didn't experience any stampede or serious craziness. There's always a sea of people outside the parks for opening and everyone pushes to get inside but I've never experienced a running of the bulls type of thing. I'm sure some people do run to the inner ropes and all that, but it's not like you have to fear for your life as you move down Main Street, and I say this as someone who lets my toddler walk into the park and town square at that time of morning. FP+ is fantastic for A & E, and you will have a very short wait and a great time! :thumbsup2
 
With the craziness of this how do we get in for our Priates League Ressie at 9:00 when I made the ressie they said we could enter the park between 830 and 845 and just have to tell them at the gate. Is this still the case???

Yes. At the tapstyles at the front of the park, those with early reservations for tours, meals or BBB/Pirates league can get in early at the far left. There will be a CM with a sign directing you that way. Just tell the CMs you have an early reservation and you can get into the park early.
 
We actually stumbled across Tickle Me Elmo at Toys R Us early that season. We had never heard of it, but thought he was adorable and perfect for our 18 month old son that Christmas. I couldn't believe the hype I heard described in the following months. But we still thought he was cute enough to keep. I think he's in a plastic bag in the attic now. Sigh. How I wish now we had sold it and added the money to his college fund. He could use that to buy a textbook. Or three. :p

My investment strategy: buy high, sell low...;)

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trk...e+me+e&_nkw=tickle+me+elmo&_sacat=0&_from=R40
 

I think they should be available in several parks. I know people talk about how it will ruin the magic if kids think there are more than one but kids can't be in two places at once anyway.

I agree.



I have no idea if DS is going to want to meet people from Frozen (especially if they don't have the guys...why don't they ever have the guys?), but if he does and if he thinks he can handle the wait time, why not? We waited well over an hour to meet Merida out at Disneyland. Helped us with patience, anticipation, etc. If he wants something badly enough, he can work for it (and in a line that means waiting, being calm and serene enough to keep this character-disliking mother of us in that line). It also helps him figure out priorities; is this 90 second meeting more important than the hour or two or three of doing other things? Lots of life lessons there...
 
I just don't think they have any intention of making them available in more than one park. I think they like having a "hot" property.

Rapunzel was once the lady of the day, and she never was added to a second park.
 
I'm curious as to what the scene will be like in that area once the Mine Train opens. I assume that most of the people will be doing the running of the bulls to the MT and some to A&E.

I just realized this is one scenario where even I actually like the thought of FP+!! We have 2 MK mornings planned for our august trip - I can FP+ MT(hopefully) and A&E for late morning/early afternoon each day and one morning head to Tomorrowland to SB lines for the rides and the next day go right to Frontier/adventureland to do SB on those rides. So the insanity in FL may actually add to the dismal (for me) appeal of FP+!;)
 
I just don't think they have any intention of making them available in more than one park. I think they like having a "hot" property. Rapunzel was once the lady of the day, and she never was added to a second park.

Was wondering if Rapunzel will seek revenge with her now zero min standby line and Elsa and Anna see 'an accident' in the cast changing room lol... A princess scorned...
 
Was wondering if Rapunzel will seek revenge with her now zero min standby line and Elsa and Anna see 'an accident' in the cast changing room lol... A princess scorned...

:rotfl::rotfl: Well she and Cindy had an 80 minute wait on Saturday, so that's nothing to sneeze at. I'd say she's still in the cool clique. :lmao:
 
I think the thing about the exorbitant line-waiting that affects me (while not really affecting me personally) is that it is an eye opener to see the lengths to which people will go to please their child(ren). While it makes no difference to me how anyone else decides to vacation, this behavior brings up some unresolved feelings that I can identify with as a parent in this generation.

I think many people parenting in this generation (of which I also belong) are driven by our passion to give so much to our children, to provide them with the best shot at a great life as possible. This extends far beyond bending over backwards to manage a meet and greet with Disney princesses but to investing in everything from Baby Einstein and baby sign language to sports and music camps and training all in the name of providing them with an edge over others. It is akin to the Keeping Up With the Joneses phenomenon too, where so many of my kids' friends' instagram accounts are filled with pics of their recent shopping purchases (all from name brand stores), expensive phones, electronics, shoes, their stash of $20-$40 pairs of socks (this is an athlete thing, I think!), vacations multiple times a year, etc.

I realize getting to meet Anna & Elsa won't give children an "edge" over others but wanting to provide our children with everything we can seems to come from the same place as that desire does -- the hope that our children are happy now and grow into happy, successful adults. There is a cultural phenomenon that we don't want them to suffer hardship and that by protecting them from disappointment, they will be happier now and as adults.

I am simply expressing my thoughts about the culture of parenting as a whole (not individually) in this generation. I am not judging, as I too, am a parent that can be found expending plenty of time, thought, energy, effort and money on helping my kids pursue things that will benefit them not only now, but in the future.

These are all generalizations and I'm sure there are plenty of individual examples to refute my thoughts. But on the whole, I do think we, as parents today, tend to step over the line of overindulgent tendencies when it comes to our kids than parents of previous generations. We want a good relationship with our children. We want them to have happy memories of childhood with engaged, attached relationships with us. We put a lot of pressure on ourselves to get this parenting thing right. I don't know if all of this will make this generation of children grow up to be better, happier, more successful adults or not. But I do think even on an unconscious level, the desire to give our kids all their heart's desire, definitely plays into the decision many parents make when they step into a five hour line for a meet and greet.

P.S.
I also realize there are plenty of people who want to see A&E that are not parents and there are plenty of adults (parents or not) that want to see A&E that also choose to stand in the long lines, and this doesn't necessarily apply to them.


Maybe some of this is true and maybe not. In any case, it's serious over-analysis.

I'm spending about 5 grand and hundreds of hours of planning and time off from work to go to the World. I'm using my vacation time and that's something very valuable to me. MY opportunity cost for this trip is quite high.

If meeting A&E is the highlight of DD6's trip (and it will be), then spending a few hours to make her vacation special is small by comparison. I KNOW she will spend at least as much time waiting in lines for me to ride my rides.

A five hour wait is something like 2% of the total time spent on this vacation (with 7 planned park days, including 3 in MK, it's less than 10% of park time). To deny my daughter the one thing that will make her vacation special doesn't mean that I've somehow proven that I'm not an indulgent parent.

It would just make me selfish about how I allocated vacation time between family members.

I would gladly wait if need be. That said, I'll be waiting at midnight Eastern time 60 days out to snag a FP+. Just because I would wait doesn't mean I intend to wait.

Plus, I made an ADR for breakfast at Akershus just in case Disney takes some advice from this board and adds a character breakfast between now and Sept. That seems like the most logical place for one to be.
 
minmate said:
I think many people parenting in this generation (of which I also belong) are driven by our passion to give so much to our children, to provide them with the best shot at a great life as possible. This extends far beyond bending over backwards to manage a meet and greet with Disney princesses but to investing in everything from Baby Einstein and baby sign language to sports and music camps and training all in the name of providing them with an edge over others. It is akin to the Keeping Up With the Joneses phenomenon too, where so many of my kids' friends' instagram accounts are filled with pics of their recent shopping purchases (all from name brand stores), expensive phones, electronics, shoes, their stash of $20-$40 pairs of socks (this is an athlete thing, I think!), vacations multiple times a year, etc.

Personally, I'm grateful for the fact that the things I bolded are available to my child. It's not about keeping up with anyone, or getting an edge - but they are resources to help her development catch up to that of others her age. It's not always about competition or keeping up wih the Joneses.
 
:rotfl::rotfl: Well she and Cindy had an 80 minute wait on Saturday, so that's nothing to sneeze at. I'd say she's still in the cool clique. :lmao:
Lol but was it a case of "we can't get in to see A&E so let's see Rapunzel instead"? ;)
 
I admit that when I saw this post. I had this image of Guest running down Main Street Screaming CHARGE!. Okay so that's just me.

But man what a way to make the other line look so much shorter. :thumbsup2
 
I'm spending about 5 grand and hundreds of hours of planning and time off from work to go to the World. I'm using my vacation time and that's something very valuable to me. MY opportunity cost for this trip is quite high.

If meeting A&E is the highlight of DD6's trip (and it will be), then spending a few hours to make her vacation special is small by comparison. I KNOW she will spend at least as much time waiting in lines for me to ride my rides.

A five hour wait is something like 2% of the total time spent on this vacation. To deny my daughter the one thing that will make her vacation special doesn't mean that I've somehow proven that I'm not an indulgent parent.

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THIS!

When we vacation, each of us picks our top 3 items for the entire trip. And one of my kid's #1 choice was meeting A&E. If I end up not getting a FP for it, I'll gladly wait in the line with her, becuase she'll wait in the HM line with me a couple of times that week, not to mention "suffering through" the HOP (her words) with me.

I value my time as DW yes, but more than that I value my family and the memories we make. If the #1 thing a child of mine wants to do is a tremendous wait, I'll do it. There will come a day when they have no desire to meet characters anymore, so by denying them that is also denying myself a precious memory.
 
The only problem is that something like Anna & Else ranks on the list of things some parents want to provide their kids. Of all the things you could spend time/money on providing for your children...multiple hours waiting for a fake autograph should be very low on the list considering you're already on a very nice and pricey vacation.

So if I saved my hard earned money and spent it "on a very nice and pricey vacation", then what do you think should be at the top of my list for my children...? :confused3

I have no intention of queuing for 5 hours (or anything above 60 minutes for that matter), but if I did, to make my children happy on the only holiday they'll get for a few years, to make it something they'll remember, then what is it to you?

This thread was never about parenting or whether standing in a multi-hour queue makes you a good or bad parent. It was about the RD rush to queue for A&E because the amount of available FP+ is not meeting demand.
 
This thread was never about parenting or whether standing in a multi-hour queue makes you a good or bad parent. It was about the RD rush to queue for A&E because the amount of available FP+ is not meeting demand.

Well to be fair, the question of FP+ not meeting demand DOES bring in the subject of why demand is so darn high for a couple of college girls' autographs. Therefore it is fair to question whether demand is actually due to kids' obsession (and yes, to some extent, parents' indulgence) or manufactured by the parents themselves ("My little toddler Suzy is going to meet those princesses because it's something I'm sure I would have wanted to do at her age!", "My little McMaddisyn is going to meet those princesses because she will look so cute in the picture on my FB!") or what.

I just have to wonder if, five, ten years down the road, the girls who waited in 3+hr lines are going to be happy about that or regret not doing other things. Especially if it was a once-in-a-lifetime trip.
 
I just don't think they have any intention of making them available in more than one park. I think they like having a "hot" property.

Rapunzel was once the lady of the day, and she never was added to a second park.

What you say makes sense but I am surprised they chose MK. To me, it would of made sense to put A&E in a park like DHS or even AK. Those parks need an attendance boost. MK doesn't. A lot of people call DHS or AK a half day park. I disagree but had they put A&E in one of those parks, they wouldn't be half day parks anymore because they'd be spending 4 hours in line just to for this one meet and greet and then still have everything else in the park to do.
 
THIS!

When we vacation, each of us picks our top 3 items for the entire trip. And one of my kid's #1 choice was meeting A&E. If I end up not getting a FP for it, I'll gladly wait in the line with her, becuase she'll wait in the HM line with me a couple of times that week, not to mention "suffering through" the HOP (her words) with me.

I value my time as DW yes, but more than that I value my family and the memories we make. If the #1 thing a child of mine wants to do is a tremendous wait, I'll do it. There will come a day when they have no desire to meet characters anymore, so by denying them that is also denying myself a precious memory.

Then I guess I am a selfish parent:lmao: because I dont care what my kid's top thing to do is, we are not wasting 5 hours of time waiting on one thing. I would do my darndest to get a FP or to get there at rope drop and be first in line, book a character meal etc, but if for whatever reason I couldnt do either of those things...it would be suck it up buttercup. I dont care if it is a ride or a character M&G...it is not happening.

Now if you want to do that...knock your socks off
 


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