A day in a caribeaan rain forest

Jeanne434

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We slept late. Guiltily late. Wastefully, decadentally, delightfully late. I seldom sleep in at home, my internal clock is on automatic pilot somehow. This was a luxury. To sleep until rested, not to wake until ready to stretch. Ahhhhhhhh sweetness.
Up top for a breakfast beverage and then onto that sweet spot on seven aft- the secret verandah. Ever after known to me as "Jeanne's private spot". I loved this spot. There were islands far off in the distant, miles away. I wondered about thier names. Even two small sail boats bravely following along side. Surely not too close I worried, I would have stayed further away. I wondered about the sailors. What were they doing out on this sea on this day? In crafts so small, so far from home. They certainly were not relaxing as I was. I doubt anyone was as relaxed as I at that moment. And this was before the rain forest.
Now for those of you who don't know, the Rain Forest is a part of the boat's spa. An area with heated tiled lounge chairs, a steam room, and saunas. There were apparently a lot of problems in the rain forest this week but I got lucky! There were very few problems evident to me and no major shortcomings.
Dearest sis and I donned bathing suits and headed out. Children were aware that we would be pretty unavailable this day and somehow that felt a little unsettling. As a parent of a teen I ought to be more seperated from the apron strings but being so out of thier world still causes me pause. New enough to me still , that I notice thier absence. I have a sneaking feeling that the empty nest syndrome may strike me harder then I ever thought or blithely joked about.
At the entrance of the rain forest we paid our admittance for a full day of pleasures. We would be coming back here later today. A single visit wouldn't do. We were given our basket and robe and locker key and then left to find our way around on our own. It was a quiet and serene place as soon as we walked past the front desk. And it only got better. We found the Rain Forest and entered into a room with five stone tiled lounge chairs. These were currently occupied so we figured we would start some place else- but where? I do wish they had some sort of printed guide, explaining the functions of the different areas of the forest. Someway to figure out the different saunas and showers and mists besides trial and error. Which comes first - the sauna or the lounger? We started in the gentle sauna. It was VERY gentle. just a humid , warm space. (Maybe it was broken?) I got bored pretty quickly and went off to explore the showers. All with different soaps and different shower heads. One smelled of lemony tropical fruits, one of mint. There were sprays that trickled onto your head and those that pelted at your sides and back. Streams and torrents. It was fun exploring them and now I had some idea what I might like and when. I went back to get sister and we found two vacant tiled lounge chairs. Now if someone told me that a stone lounge chair could feel this delicious I would have scoffed at them. I WANT one of these!! Oh my goodness- the heat into my bones was yummy. Heated chairs- what an idea! I could have sat there all day. Actually I ended up putting in quite a few hours on them this day! I have sore bones, the snorkeling and strange bed had taken thier toll on my back and joints. This could not have come at a better time. It was heavenly. Maybe if I live life right there will be one of these waiting for me at the gates! But people were waiting and we still had not checked out the mist room- ooooh another unknown adventure!! In we go and wait. And wait. It smelled of eucalyptus and cedar. Maybe it is just another "gentle sauna". We added ice and water to the rocks and waited. And then it happened. I smelled eucalyptus/mint stronger. And then stronger still. Coming from the fountain. It started to get misty, very misty. Till we could hardly see. The eucalyptus/mint was so strong now that you had to shut yur eyes. And just breath. Just breath. Just breath. I LOVED it! It was cleansing and sooo relaxing. Almost overwhelming. In awhile the mist cleared -I have no idea of how long it lasted.Off to play in the showers and another round in the heated loungers. I still amaze that stone can be so comfortable, how can it conform to my body like this. I wish that I could have layed on my belly for a bit though. That may have helped with digesting all the rich food!
iSpeaking of food-it was getting near lunch time so we felt obliged to locate children and partake. Into the changing room where there were two more unique showers and some lotion to play with. Dressed and a little wobbly we made sure that our passes allowed us readmission and off we went.
This was the day of the seafood buffet. My favorite sort of food and this did not disappoint. Huge mounds of pink shrimp and bowls brimming with rock crab. I don't remember anything else although I know there were plenty of choices. I had all I wanted. Jumbo shrimp and rock crabs- who could ask for anything more?Not me. I ate and ate some more and then made a plate to bring back for a snack later in the room! It was the best shrimp and the best rock crab I had ever eaten. Never had fresher-ever.
Now DS had awakened with a massive stiff neck- he was in misery. I gave him some pain meds and a muscle relaxer-(never leave home without them thank goodness!) Then I went and made him a plate brimming with delights of the sea. I knew he liked them as much as I so I gave him extra. Having done all I could to comfort him and knowing that he woudl soon be asleep after the food and the meds hit home it was back to the rain forest. Handed in our key cards, got our locker keys and robes and an idea was forming, Hmmmm could we pull it off? I don't know. I am not generally a rule breaker but this might be worth it. Think I could get away with it? It would be so cool if I could. I am speaking of getting DD17 into the rain forest. Her biggest disappointment with the dis cruise was the fact that she would be unable to use the spa services. She is soon off to the army and it seemed fair that she get this one indulgence before her boot camp. So the thought was planted and then mulled over while dearest sis and I did the rounds again. The only shortcoming of the Rain Forest was that gurgling noise in the mist room. What was that about? Some drainage problem? They couldn't have wanted us to have to listen to this. It was distracting and harsh in a place of serenity. I quickly learned to tune it out though and still enjoyed the mist room beyond words.
When we had completed the rounds again- this time feeling more confident of our choices and options- we dressed and headed out. We discussed about trying to get DD inside this place. They never checked our ID's, never even looked at our key cards after the initial scan for payment. I was nervous but thought we could do it. And the worse that would happen is that we would be scolded and told not to come back right? Right? Yikes- I am not a real risk taker- but I did want DD to be able to do this. And it was kind of exciting! Located DD, discussed with her the "plan" drum roll please.....and she was game to give it a try. Into her suit and off we went. Now to be honest I was pretty misted out- deliciously drained- but I just had to try. Last minute instructions- "just hand the guy your card and walk away to look at something" "act like you have been here twice already today" We were on sort of a shared caper! It was fun and we did it! We actually got her in!! Allelluia!! (cue the angelic chorus' singing now please" Once inside we shared a hug and prepared for the inner workings of the Rain Forest. DD enjoyed it as much as I did. I am so glad we got to share this time together before she leaves home. Now I know, breaking the rules is not good and I suppose this wasn't a very good example for her but it was worth it in my eyes. Forgive me Dis for I have sinned. I will always remember this sweet hour of time together. I can only hope that in the difficult, challenging times that are sure to arise in her life in the next few months, that she will be able to close her eyes, take a deep breath and be transported back to this most relaxing moment in time. It was a gift to her. And the time shared was a gift to my heart. I will miss her.
Okay, time to dry my eyes and move onto formal night! Oooooh - gowns and high heels and tuxes and jewelry!! What fun! The rain forest had made my hair pretty limp but not to worry- a bun is more elegant then curls anyways right?? DS still had the stiff neck- slightly reluctant to get dressed up but he didn't want to miss out on his first tux wearing! So we medicated him again and he pulled it off with a smile. There was a tussle about shoes- both girls had to wear the same pair- I thought we had this all worked out at home. I mean we talked about this very thing. How did this happen? Oh well, someone will squeeze into the pair not desired for the walk down and photos and otherwise be barefoot. Something fun about gowns and barefeet! Only on a cruise! We stopped at every photo stand set up on the way in to eat and the way out after. This was THE night that I especially wanted captured for posterity. So it was the night to take every photo op available. One of the photos would certainly be, just had to be perfect.
Dinner was delicious. Of course it was. Lobster tails for everyone. These were the largest, most moist lobster tails I had ever eaten. I had thought of ordering two at first but was glad I didn't. These were LARGE!! One was enough, especially after the afternoons fill of rock crab and shrimp. After dessert a cool balancing trick by Joel and we were off. Back to the room, removing shoes and hose and jewelry and gowns and hair thingies! Getting undressed takes a lot less time but it feels even better then getting dressed in this stuff! Pantyhose is the torture of the well dressed.
DS went back to room to watch a tv movie(and probably order room service!). DD 17 was going to the internet cafe to write Mike and DD13 was travelling with us for a bit. Just checking out the sites and activities. I don't remember all the details really. I was still rather drained from the spa I think! For a hyperactive person such as me, drained is a good feeling! Loose and lazy. Ready for bed and dreams of Castaway Cay. I heard so much about this place in the sea. It couldn't be as good as everyone said could it? It must be over rated musn't it? I'd find out tomorrow. For now it was back to the room, a quick chuckle at our towel scorpion who was trying to eat our chocolates- that rascal- and off to never never land. Another sweet ending to another near perfect day. The seas have been unbelievably calm all week. the skys have been non- stop blue. Even if I had control over the weather I could not have done it this well. We are lucky and blessed. I am thankful.
I layed my head down, exhausted. Took a deep breath and what did I smell?
The sweet smell of eucalyptus and lemon in my hair, ahhhhhhhhh
 
Glad you had such a good time that day, but as for the rule breaking, shame on you. Especially knowing the stink you put up about this DD being bumped on her trip home!
Also interesting to note she will soon be in the army. And you still chose to raise a fuss about the whole bumping thing.
And twice you've left two different kids in the room by themselves! And one after giving a muscle relaxer!
Interesting...

Loretta
 
Originally posted by nicurnc
Glad you had such a good time that day, but as for the rule breaking, shame on you. Especially knowing the stink you put up about this DD being bumped on her trip home!
Also interesting to note she will soon be in the army. And you still chose to raise a fuss about the whole bumping thing.
And twice you've left two different kids in the room by themselves! And one after giving a muscle relaxer!
Interesting...

Loretta
Yikes are you stalking me???? :) As I said MANY times this was NOT about my DD. She handled things fine- all worked out well for her. This is a bigger issue then our inconvenience.
And who said the kids were left in the room by themselves?? You don't know who was travelling with us and arrangements we may have made. You are assuming things and I have seen other peoples assumptions get ME in hot water in the past.
Please stop thinking you know more about my situation then you do. Please stop judging my parenting when you really know nothing about me.
And what does treating a DD to an hour in the spa have to do with bumping policies?? I certainly endangered no one. Yup- shame on me. But no regrets! I would do it again in a heart beat. It was one of the most special times we have ever shared.

Yup- DD goes into the Army in two weeks- heading for medical school! She is of superior intelligence and was highly recruited by all branches of the armed forces! We are proud of her choice! Pehaps this will help explain to you why I did not feel it necessary to purchase the add on for her. Perhaps this will also add a little clarity re: why this cruise date was rather set in stone for our family. I have confidence in her intelligence, maturity and ability to handle lifes little curves. She handled the Delta curve just fine actually. IT was not about her- I thought I had made that clear! I believe that thread is closed and I have no intention of raising those issues here. Thank you inadvance for respecting this since this is the trip report forum. Not transportation or debate or bash Jeanne forum!
Have a good day- I am glad you are following my trip report! It was a wonderful, magical vacation!
 
Certainly NOT stalking you! Please do not give yourself that kind of importance. I just love to read trip reports.
And the only thing I pointed out that this just seemed interesting int light of your other post.
It was okay for you to sneak your DD into somewhere and you would do it again, why... Because you spent a delightful hour with her there? Excuse me, but what kind of example did that make for your DD? When you have a good enough reason it's okay? The end justifies the means? This is relevant, only because you are crusading to have a rule that was enforced by another company changed because, as you pointed out time and again, "just because they have a rule doesn't make it right". Well, I happen to think just because you wanted your daughter to spend time in the spa is not excuse enough for your behavior. In fact, I think it stinks. Kinda like the people who think their kids deserve time in the adult pools or adult areas on the cruise. Gee, they're not hurting anyone, are they?
As for my commment about your DD entering the armed forces...don't get so huffy. I could not care less who courted her, how intelligent she suposedly is or the fact that she will go to med school. (More added on info as we go along). We are a retired military family living at Ft. Bragg, so her decesion to enter the service of her country only wins our admiration. What was interesting about her going into the army in a few months was her handling of the bumping crisis (meltdown, hissy fit,etc.) She'll be "bumped" quite a bit in two weeks!
And don't assume I'm questioning your parenting skills. You chose to add these tidbits to you report, they become relevant. I'm sure both times your kids were left in the care of a capable adult, then.

Loretta
 

Sounds like you had a wonderful day. I'm attempting to live vicarously through your day! :)
I was just on the Wonder, had an appt at the spa for the Alpha capsule, but ended up cancelling....sounded too extravagant for my lifestyle. My family ended up getting me a massage at Saratoga Springs for Mother's Day and it was wonderful! But JUST as wonderful was the sauna and steam room and shower afterwards. (was that eucalyptus and mint too, I wonder? I described it to dh as a "vick's vapo rub smell.") ;)
I may just have to check out the rainforest room on my next cruise!! Thanks for the detailed description!!
 
Originally posted by nicurnc
Certainly NOT stalking you! Please do not give yourself that kind of importance. I just love to read trip reports.
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Lighten up for crying out loud. The stalking comment was a joke. I put a smiley face after it so that you would know it was meant in humor. So now I can add self important to my list of dis board endowed traits. I have been called worse by better. Let's see, self important, horrible parent, irresponsible,huffy and I have audacity too! Cool- I can live with it. This is a chat forum- not my real life.

["just because they have a rule doesn't make it right".
[ I think what I kept pointing out was that if there wasn't a rule then there ought to be.
[As for my commment about your DD entering the armed forces...don't get so huffy.
I wasn't huffy- just proud.
[ I could not care less who courted her, how intelligent she suposedly is or the fact that she will go to med school. (More added on info as we go along).
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Perhaps I should have mentioned her shoe size too so I wouldn't have to add on that info later either.Silly. I didn't know I should post every detail in the initial thread for fear of being accused of being less then forthright.

[she'll be "bumped" quite a bit in two weeks!
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Yes she will. Challenged and bumped and she will be just fine.

[And don't assume I'm questioning your parenting skills. You chose to add these tidbits to you report, they become relevant. I'm sure both times your kids were left in the care of a capable adult, then.
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Yeah okay. You weren't commenting on my parenting. Yeah okay.
How's about you get a life dear? Have you nothing better to do then pester me? To what do I owe this honor?
My trip reports are meant to be a record of our vacation. If you read them fine. If not, thats fine too. Do they need to turn into another debate on my personal worth?
 
Jeanne - Thank you so much for the vivid trip report! I truly enjoyed reading it.

nicurnc - Didn't your mother ever say, "If you can't anything nice, don't say anything at all..."???? :confused: RELAX!! Everyone has their own views and opinions, and it is not our place to judge them! ;)
 
but if reading all posts correctly- your son is 15... is anyone else having a problem with a 13 or 15 year old in the room by themselves??? i certainly am NOT and wouldn't think twice about leaving my 12 and 8 year old there too... i think i am quite conservative and am really looking forward to giving the kids a BIT of freedom on the cruise... anyone else want to give their two cents on kids in the room by themselves... i don't see anything wrong with ANYTHING Jeanne did... and we all love detailed trip reports!!!!!!!:)
 
Thanks for your support! The tone of so many recent replies to my threads have me cringing when ever someone responds lately! I am getting paranoid maybe!:D
I would say that unless your kids are pyromaniacs or have other severe behavior issues they would be just fine in the rooms by themselves. My kids loved the extra freedom they were able to indulge in on the ship- they rose to the occassion and behaved responsibly every step of the way. I say go for it- let your kids show you what a great job you really are doing in raising them! Sometimes in day to day parenting struggles we don't get to step back and view our children as others do. As they say- the proof is in the pudding and my kids proved to me that they are just fine and decent human beings. I bet yours are too!
Some people just have a negative outlook on everything- when my kids were small and they would be ornery/moody I would sometimes say "Your attitude would even spoil a trip to Disney World" , I find that some people just can't even leave thier neagtive attitudes out of a post regarding a most wonderful day on a most magical vacation! The turkeys won't get me down though! It WAS great!
Thanks again and glad you are enjoying the reports! I got two or three left to go. I know they are long but some say the devil is in the details- I say the delight is in the details! I want to remember every delicious, delightful tidbit! It has taken hours of typing but what a joy to relive and capture this vacation and each precious moment in time!
Next is Castaway cay- that will be a doozy!
 
Great trip report, Jeanne! I've been too busy to start my own, and am enjoying reliving our cruise through your reports tremendously. Especially the parts about a teenage girl showing rollercoaster bouts of maturity and childishness. What a shock and a surprise . . . when I was her age, that never happened with me or any of my friends!

Best advice on the other issue is learn to treat it like 'water off a duck's back'. Sometimes it's just well enough to leave what you can't change alone . . . including the opinion of a stranger.

I don't see anything wrong with leaving your kids in the room based on their age -- heck, my DSS (11) was able to sign in and out of the Lab as he pleased, and I know he had many of his own little travels around the ship solo. He's a very mature young lad, and one night when he was really tired he was much happier to have room service, a TV movie, and to go to bed early than to join us at late seating dinner. In fact, he insisted we go to dinner so he could enjoy the 'adventure' of room service on his own. So we ordered for him, gave him money to tip the server, told him how to handle the exchange and off to dinner the DH and I went.

His dad went back to check on him before dessert, and he was sound asleep, his meal finished with a note on the table saying please not to wake him. Does leaving him make us bad parents? Callous? I don't think so. We know him well, and we know he's as responsible as many people twice his age.

I think that allowing kids to enjoy some freedom and independence on board (within reason) is one of the great things about the Disney cruise.
 
Would it make any of you feel better to know I would have posted my opinions about the OP sneaking her daughter into the spa regardless of her campaign on another post? Why is that considered a fond trip memory all of a sudden?
This same lady lambasted me and plenty of others on another thread for questioning her parenting skills. True, had I not read her other thread, I might not have been privy to some of these details, she chose to post them. And sorry, I do have an opinion about leaving a kid with an allergic reaction in her room, then drugging another one and going off to pull off a fast one with another kid. Just doesn't read like your average trip report somehow.
I look forward to reading trip reports, as I have already stated, but I don't think I need to oooh and aaah over the fact that she helped her daughter be dishonest. And that this precious hour they spent being dishonest is now a Kodak moment.

Loretta
 
I don't think I lambasted anyone on that other thread. Quite the contrary. I think I kept my cool pretty well under some pretty harsh criticisms.
You don't need to ooo and ahhh over any portion of my trip report. Try shutting up. Your opinion matters not to me.
Now, maybe thats lambasting? I've had enough.
Stop trying to start a debate on a trip report thread.
 
Enough with the attacks, please. Just agree to disagree and leave it at that.

I don't want to have to close a trip report thread.
 
so I'm not sure of its relevance to this one.

nicurnc, I'm not sure anyone other than the OP said anything about your posts at all.

Jeanne434 made no secret about the 'sneaking', and no one's endorsing it. But I'm sure it's not the first time someone has taken their 17-year-old daughter into the spa, and I'm very confident it won't be the last. Perhaps what makes it not your 'average' trip report is that it is so unabashedly forthright.

And since you've raised other threads, I might point out the OP is relatively new to the boards, and filled a particular thread with enthusiasm prior to her cruise. Why dampen her equally enthusiastic trip report? You can express a concern or opinion about leaving a sick child without doing so in an attacking tone.

There are many forums on this site, and if you want to debate some of the topics you've raised, there is definitely a place for it.

Many of us enjoy reading trip reports. Oohing and aahing is not required. But the pleasure of re-living or anticipating a trip can be marred when the threads take on the tone of personal attacks.
 
well it looks like northernmouse said everything I was saying quite well, so I will only add that I am enjoying your trip reports Jeanne.

Add me to the list of those who feel leaving a 12-15 year old in the cabin for a period of time alone is ok. I have a 13 yo and he is left to his own devices at times. This teaches them self reliance, responsibility and independance, something all kids will need someday.

I do not agree that "sneaking" someone into a spa is a good choice, but it was done, the poster was up front about it...let it go! I think 17 is close enough to the minimum age anyway, it's not like the toddlers they were bringing into the Art of Entertaining series...now THAT was irritating!!!!:mad:

Anyway, thanks again Jeanne for letting us in on your trip, I have enjoyed "sharing " it with you!

Lisa
 
I am not suggesting that anyone else sneak anyone in anywhere! And if you say I sent you I will have to deny it! ;)
Just to set the record straight DD was less then 90 days away from being 18. And thirty five days away from joining the military.
I know, I know -it still wasn't legit and rules are made for a reason and no, I am not above the rules.:rolleyes:
If caught, I would have accepted my chatisement and punishment. And been pretty dang embarrssed as well.
:o
I have admitted I was wrong, take full responsibility for my corrupting influence on the DD and am soooo glad I did it!
 
Jeanne,

The report is fantastic, and as far as anything goes...You AND Danielle ROCK!

Please, please, please, do not let the unpleasantness interfere with your 'full disclosure' on your reports! They are really great, and you and your family are too! That's really the only opinion you need to care about.

Your May 3rd fellow cruisers Love You!
 
just had to say i am enjoying your reports ,and as a women who went thru basic training for the us army i know your daughter will do fine ,and she is lucky to have a mother like you who would take a "chance" to give her a wonderful memory. there were definately difficult times when happy memories were all that got me through.best wishes to your dd i'll keep her in my prayers .
 
Jeanne,
For gosh sake's, you are being fed to the shark's! I think it is silly. I will never forget my very first post here a couple of years ago, asking weather or not I could "sneak" my very mature teen into Palo and they came at me left and right! Flamed me for sure, I was devastated. Anyway, please know that your reports are wonderful and if the worst thing you ever did is this, well, my goodness, what a wench are you - Ha, Ha!!! Seriously, thank you so much for your reports and best of luck to your DD
:p
 
Thanks for your report! Sounds like a really fun and memorable time for you and your family. If my dd was a few months shy of 18, I would have tried to "sneak" her into the spa too :smooth: (go ahead and flame me - after all, this is the DIS - home of the flame :p ). Jeanne434: keep on ***Sharing***
Nicurnc: you really need a chill pill, kiddo. Life is too short.
 


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