A change to VMK Pass in the future?

[kjhoffman87]

Today after the host event there were a few of us just standing there at the entrance of host_phinny's room and she was there and a girl said I hat vmk pass I have been waiting forever and didn't even make it. And fin said she doesn't care much for it either.

I am personally very happy to hear that and it makes me think there is hope for vmk yet. She let 5 of us in and gave us a prize on her because we were actually there and mad we missed it by 6 minutes.

I was the last to leave and got to talk to fin a little bit and she agreed with me that while vmk pass does wonders for people who have time to play vmk and want to get stuff done but also want to be in a line but it isn't so great for people who don't have but an hour to play or for people who can't join right away. She said 600 people is way too many for a line.

If a host doesn't like it, then at least I'm not the only one out there. She told me that at least for host games there should be some kind of limit. It isn't really fair for the people who are in line for an hour or two and miss the room by 2 minutes. At least before with a limit they were able to let all those people have a free prize or finish the game.

Well thats my 2 cents. Take it for what it's worth. If you agree with me I'd love to hear it to know I'm not the only one unhappy with the changes recently made. Don't get me started on fireworks

See you all in the kingdom

Kevin

 

[Random Villains]

I got the pass just a few minutes after the event started, and never made it in. At first I loved the pass and thought it was great because I hated clicking to get into the room over and over and over until I finally got in line. But now its not so great. I either never make it into the room, or if I make it in and I lose the game in there, there is no chance at all of another try.

 

[Disney Dreams]

I got the pass just a few minutes after the event started, and never made it in. At first I loved the pass and thought it was great because I hated clicking to get into the room over and over and over until I finally got in line. But now its not so great. I either never make it into the room, or if I make it in and I lose the game in there, there is no chance at all of another try.

Random - was this tonight? I got my pass at least an hour after the game opened and made it in.

 

[birdmom]

I am not so mad about the pass for say, I got 4 charters is line but didn't take the pass (this way you do not have to move every 10 min.) We went out to dinner and after about 2 hours I was in. The thing that stinks is because of the long lines when you loose the game (which I always do) there is no chance of getting back in. The other thing that really burns my biscuits it the fact that my daughter got in line tonight at right about 7:00 she waited in line and made it in at about 8:45. The minuet the room came up phinny booted her. WOW THATS VMK VALUES in a nut shell, like it was her fault some ppl took too long in the room which made the line slow and she didn't make it in by 8:30. VMK if you are reading this cut the line off when it hits a number that will not make it in the room by closing time, and if that's not possible offer some type of consolation prize to those who sit in line for an hour and a half but didn't make it!!!!!! After listening to my six year old crying in her room for 30 min when a HOST booted her, I wanted to swing phinny around by those cute little red ears! Ok I am done venting for now, sorry but its just not fair to the kids!

 

[Xpdtion-futureWDI]

It's not the pass.. it's the queue. They removed the limit on the queue, so the queue can be extremly long. It's not bad with teleporter games, because people get in and out of their fast.

 

[laxplaya1346]

It's not the pass.. it's the queue. They removed the limit on the queue, so the queue can be extremly long. It's not bad with teleporter games, because people get in and out of their fast.

Thats wht he said WDI..

 

[Xpdtion-futureWDI]

Thats wht he said WDI..

Where? He's talking about the pass in general, not the queue.

 

[HopelessMagic]

aww Bird I'm so sorry for your little girl. I know they said games will end at the scheduled time, but then they should do something like close the room so everyone in line just gets booted off queue. Waiting for them to get in the room just to get booted is very cold.

I think the issue is, the ratio of players to hosts is getting bigger than when host games first started. I think it's time for them to start thinking about more hosts. Maybe 2 rooms instead of just 1. Sure that would cost more, but if the number of players keeps going up, they're going to have to do it sometime.

 

[SnowyJingleBells]

I am not so mad about the pass for say, I got 4 charters is line but didn't take the pass (this way you do not have to move every 10 min.) We went out to dinner and after about 2 hours I was in. The thing that stinks is because of the long lines when you loose the game (which I always do) there is no chance of getting back in. The other thing that really burns my biscuits it the fact that my daughter got in line tonight at right about 7:00 she waited in line and made it in at about 8:45. The minuet the room came up phinny booted her. WOW THATS VMK VALUES in a nut shell, like it was her fault some ppl took too long in the room which made the line slow and she didn't make it in by 8:30. VMK if you are reading this cut the line off when it hits a number that will not make it in the room by closing time, and if that's not possible offer some type of consolation prize to those who sit in line for an hour and a half but didn't make it!!!!!! After listening to my six year old crying in her room for 30 min when a HOST booted her, I wanted to swing phinny around by those cute little red ears! Ok I am done venting for now, sorry but its just not fair to the kids!

This has happened to me too, with phinny . i was the first person in her ride room (i think it was) and the BAM! she boots me. I was so and and i have never been in phinny's room ever since (except for ride a thons (i think))

 

[disvaclub92]

I testing the pass last night for the staff game. Got my pass at 9:11 EST. I was 560 in the queue.

I was able to get in the room at 11:21 EST, 9 minutes before the close of the game.

I was able to play games, visit friends, etc. So it worked, but I think enhancements could be done. I am not sure what the queue is, I am guessing 600, but I think that should be reduced to a more realistic number based on the the length of each game. Example, teleporter game moves more quickly because more people can come into the room at once and the game gets moving.

 

[Peacefully]

I think it would help, though likely not solve the problem, if they closed the host room half an hour early (or perhaps ran it for half an hour after) and closed the line off so no one else could join it. That way that can get to some of the people left in the queue without angering people who join at the last minute.

 

[Maleficent2]

Sorry
I totally disagree with you the PASS is a GREAT thing....with out it I would never get into a host game and I have a super fast connection and a brand new AMD computer .... so alot of players must not have been getting in.

At least with PASS we have at least a chance to participate in HOST events.

Sorry some of you do not like it but I think for the majority of VMK it is a GREAT thing!

 

[mtlhddoc2]

Mal, I think the "majority" would disagree with you. For those with several hours to spend waiting with a pass, yes it is a great thing, for the rest of VMK, those who cannot devote 3 or 4 hours to standing in line, it is not.

Think of it this way, you go to a restaurant on Friday night because you want to eat, they say that there is a wait, they give you a little pager thing, which is nice because they can contact you when you table is ready and you can do other things like roam around the mall (if you are in a mall) but you can wind up waiting hours before you get a table. Do you REALLY want to spend hours waiting to eat? Even though you can do other things while waiting, you are still not going to wait. They need to do one of two things:

1) Open more rooms so more people have a shot
2) limit the queue to say, 200

Waiting 2 hours in line only to have the rudest host on the web BOOT you without so much as a "Sorry we are closed" is just plain WRONG
Same story at the restaurant. You have your pager and their closing time comes up, but your table just cleared, and they grab the pager back and shove you out the door, or, even nicely, say "sorry, we are closed now" How angry would you be that you just wasted all that time waiting to get in?

 

[Maleficent2]

Mal, I think the "majority" would disagree with you. For those with several hours to spend waiting with a pass, yes it is a great thing, for the rest of VMK, those who cannot devote 3 or 4 hours to standing in line, it is not.

Think of it this way, you go to a restaurant on Friday night because you want to eat, they say that there is a wait, they give you a little pager thing, which is nice because they can contact you when you table is ready and you can do other things like roam around the mall (if you are in a mall) but you can wind up waiting hours before you get a table. Do you REALLY want to spend hours waiting to eat? Even though you can do other things while waiting, you are still not going to wait. They need to do one of two things:

1) Open more rooms so more people have a shot
2) limit the queue to say, 200

Waiting 2 hours in line only to have the rudest host on the web BOOT you without so much as a "Sorry we are closed" is just plain WRONG
Same story at the restaurant. You have your pager and their closing time comes up, but your table just cleared, and they grab the pager back and shove you out the door, or, even nicely, say "sorry, we are closed now" How angry would you be that you just wasted all that time waiting to get in?

I did not say it does not need tweaking, I just said it was a GREAT tool and I for one am glad it is there.

I have not had to wait "4 hours" to get into the HOST games I have wanted to get into. In fact I barely waited an hour, which is a great improvement from the way it was before when I could not get into a HOST game AT ALL.

So you may disagree and so may others but I still feel that the VMK PASS is a Great Tool.


They do need to have more than one host room open for each event but that has nothing to do with the VMK PASS.

Limiting the queue will just make it impossible for a lot of players to get in at all again.

Those are my opinions and you can disagree if you like but that is how I feel.

 

[Tampa]

Sorry
I totally disagree with you the PASS is a GREAT thing....

I'm sorry Mal, I gotta disagree with you, VMK pass is one of the worse things to happen to the game, right up there with hiring bad staff.

Hopefully, if enough of us continuously complain, changes will be made, and not to a 999 que.

If VMK Pass makes you happy and all fuzzy inside, wonderful, that's great. If you do not even bother with staff rooms anymore because of it, I can assure you, you're not alone.

The real kicker here is wait till staff starts to hand out tickets for enteries to their rooms, when I read that I went..

 

[Maleficent2]

I'm sorry Mal, I gotta disagree with you, VMK pass is one of the worse things to happen to the game, right up there with hiring bad staff.

Hopefully, if enough of us continuously complain, changes will be made, and not to a 999 que.

If VMK Pass makes you happy and all fuzzy inside, wonderful, that's great. If you do not even bother with staff rooms anymore because of it, I can assure you, you're not alone.

The real kicker here is wait till staff starts to hand out tickets for enteries to their rooms, when I read that I went..

Tampa your attacks on staff are uncalled for and quiet rude.

If you do not like VMK Pass you can state your feelings without attacking staff and/or those who do not hold your views.

I did not as you say "bother" with Host games until VMK pass was instituted because I got nothing but "sorry" full messages and it was a waste of time! completely.

Now I can get a PASS and go play pirates or do what ever I choose to do until my time comes up.

I never said it was perfect but it is better than it was before for me at least and I do not feel I am the only one.

There were quiet a few players who could not get into staff games or they would have never considered this.

 

[thepanmanman]

I now can get in a host room. Before I would try for hours to get in, only to never get in line at all. Now I get in line and have a chance. I have never waited more than a hour to get in the host room that i have tryed for. So the change is great and my only complaint is that their are not enough Host rooms open to let everyone in a timely manner. That might be the next change.
I think the biggest complainers about the new system, are those that could get in a lot of times and run all the players through and the rest of us could not get in line at all. Just my opinion. Thanks VMK staff for the change.

 

[Maleficent2]

I now can get in a host room. Before I would try for hours to get in, only to never get in line at all. Now I get in line and have a chance. I have never waited more than a hour to get in the host room that i have tryed for. So the change is great and my only complaint is that their are not enough Host rooms open to let everyone in a timely manner. That might be the next change.
I think the biggest complainers about the new system, are those that could get in a lot of times and run all the players through and the rest of us could not get in line at all. Just my opinion. Thanks VMK staff for the change.

and I think you are probably right!

 

[jasonpwns]

I agree with mal on the pass but disagree on the lines since VMK pass I have not made it in one host room not even the teleporter games! the teleporter games were once at 42 lines how is that an improvement mal? A line of 42 moving real fast to a line of 600 moving kinda slow and kinda fast before i made it into the teleporter game to try for it 5 times a night now I can't even make it in once and those games were the easiest to make it in? tell me that's better? Now I can't make it into any host even because they won't make the pass hideable till it blinks because once in club 33 I made it in numbeer 6 and clicked exit by accident so the host games are a bad idea they need a limit of lets say 200 or 300 even to let people through just my 2 cents you don't have to agree or disagree.

 

[Maleficent2]

I agree with mal on the pass but disagree on the lines since VMK pass I have not made it in one host room not even the teleporter games! the teleporter games were once at 42 lines how is that an improvement mal? A line of 42 moving real fast to a line of 600 moving kinda slow and kinda fast before i made it into the teleporter game to try for it 5 times a night now I can't even make it in once and those games were the easiest to make it in? tell me that's better? Now I can't make it into any host even because they won't make the pass hideable till it blinks because once in club 33 I made it in numbeer 6 and clicked exit by accident so the host games are a bad idea they need a limit of lets say 200 or 300 even to let people through just my 2 cents you don't have to agree or disagree.

You clearly did not read my posts Jazz.