A change in the Fastpass system?

[bicker]

You may think this is terrible, but ...

... imagine if it was your retirement fund invested in DIS stock.

 

[wallyb]

I think if you say on WDW property and that gets you certain perks
for ponying up so be it. That's good bizz to give incentives.

 

[Robo]

Nine dollars? Heck, if the price difference between a Days Inn and onsite were nine dollars, I think even I would stay onsite!

Random price check: October 15, 2006, two people, one night.

Days Inn 192: $40
Pop Century: $110

Its not what you know that can bite you, its what you DON'T know.

I stayed 10 nights at All Star Sports in late Jan.- early Feb. this year for
$45 per night, Dbl-Oc. (plus tax, of course).

Why? I bought an AP last year.
How? I called and made a ressie.

 

[POB14]

Its not what you know that can bite you, its what you DON'T know.

I stayed 10 nights at All Star Sports in late Jan.- early Feb. this year for
$45 per night, Dbl-Oc. (plus tax, of course).

Why? I bought an AP last year.
How? I called and made a ressie.

And annual passes for my family would cost $1661.42. Now, if there were any way I could possibly justify spending that many days in Disney, that could end up being a deal. But a) my wife and I both have new jobs, and don't have that kind of vacation time; b) the kids would miss about two weeks of school; c) I don't think we could stand ten straight days at Disney World.

I was replying to a post that said the price difference between the All-Stars and a Days Inn was nine dollars. I was trying to show that it isn't, necessarily. Maybe I came off snarky in the post; I didn't mean to.

I'm not ignorant of AP discounts, or that different sources quote different prices for different dates for the same room. (By the way, am I the only person in the world who really hates the term "ressie"? )I thank you for helping me make my point; that everybody's situation is different, and people who stay offsite aren't just trying to save the nine bucks a day.

 

[lillygator]

that Oct rate doesn't seem right...I just checked for the 25th of Oct and it was $79 plus tax....Oct5-Nov25 is regular season so I don't know where you got $110??

oh and you would only need one AP for a discount!

 

[lillygator]

It is already unfair that we get kicked out for EMH. It is terrible IMHO.

not unfair at all....you could have this option as well if you chose to stay onsite.

 

[bazzanoid]

I agree lily - it's not unfair that off-site guests can't use the EMH.

I'm staying off-site this year - got a villa in the Doral Woods community (peace, quiet, woods, alligators), and therefore can't use EMH at the parks, but I understand why, and more importantly, i'll probably benefit as EMH days are busier than standard days so I'll be deliberately avoiding them

Back on-topic:

I agree with some earlier posts about the possibility of small modifications, such as on-site guests being able to pre-book up to, say, 24 hours before their chosen ride timing, maybe they can have an anytime fastpass a la universal's front of the line pass, etc. i also agree it should be kept free and available for non-resort guests as it does help pull the crowds, and more importantly to disney, encourage them to hang around for their ride time, and therefore spend more cash in-park.

 

[DisneyFreq]

I know I'm going to get flamed for this but I'm so sick of hearing the words "punished" and "unfair." Since when is anything FAIR? This is a business and just because it is coined "the happiest place on earth" doesn't make it a real fairyland where everyone gets what they want (hence so many of us wouldn't leave with empty wallets!)

So many of you are forgetting that there was L.B.F.P (Life Before Fast Pass). Many of us had wonderful vacations before the invent of the FP and if Disney decides to charge for it or remove it all together...than many of us will continue to have wonderful vacations in spite of it. And since when is it a given that because Disney gives us something for free that they are obligated to ALWAYS give it to us for free?

When I found out US had started charging for their FP, I thought "oh well, was nice while it lasted." It never once occured to me to think "how dare they!" Yes, Disney is held to a higher standard, which is why we keep coming back. But would a change in the FP system really be enough to make you go elsewhere????? Admit it, you would be mad for about 10 min...you'd grit your teeth, then start looking into how you could best afford to stay onsite or how to plan your days without FPs.

 

[lillygator]

I too was wondering if people forgot that Disney started out without FP's!!

 

[HydroGuy]

And annual passes for my family would cost $1661.42. Now, if there were any way I could possibly justify spending that many days in Disney, that could end up being a deal. But a) my wife and I both have new jobs, and don't have that kind of vacation time; b) the kids would miss about two weeks of school; c) I don't think we could stand ten straight days at Disney World.

I was replying to a post that said the price difference between the All-Stars and a Days Inn was nine dollars. I was trying to show that it isn't, necessarily. Maybe I came off snarky in the post; I didn't mean to.

I'm not ignorant of AP discounts, or that different sources quote different prices for different dates for the same room. (By the way, am I the only person in the world who really hates the term "ressie"? )I thank you for helping me make my point; that everybody's situation is different, and people who stay offsite aren't just trying to save the nine bucks a day.

Just wanted to point out that to get the AP discount, you do not need to have everyone in your group with AP. Only one. I think the rule is you can get three rooms at a time with one AP. So an AP may be worth it for one of you if the savings in other ways offsets the extra cost.

 

[traviesojmt]

I know I'm going to get flamed for this but I'm so sick of hearing the words "punished" and "unfair." Since when is anything FAIR? This is a business and just because it is coined "the happiest place on earth" doesn't make it a real fairyland where everyone gets what they want (hence so many of us wouldn't leave with empty wallets!)

So many of you are forgetting that there was L.B.F.P (Life Before Fast Pass). Many of us had wonderful vacations before the invent of the FP and if Disney decides to charge for it or remove it all together...than many of us will continue to have wonderful vacations in spite of it. And since when is it a given that because Disney gives us something for free that they are obligated to ALWAYS give it to us for free?

When I found out US had started charging for their FP, I thought "oh well, was nice while it lasted." It never once occured to me to think "how dare they!" Yes, Disney is held to a higher standard, which is why we keep coming back. But would a change in the FP system really be enough to make you go elsewhere????? Admit it, you would be mad for about 10 min...you'd grit your teeth, then start looking into how you could best afford to stay onsite or how to plan your days without FPs.

No flaming here. I am with you.

 

[seashoreCM]

I too was wondering if people forgot that Disney started out without FP's!!

Nearly unlimited fastpasses for some guests produces a much different and unfavorable environment for those without fastpasses compared with no fastpasses at all (LBFP).

 

[DisneyDadof3]

No flaming here. I am with you.

I haven't been back since my one exerience because of the complete inequitities at US/IOA. Disney - I may come back, but not nearly as much or as often. Maybe once or twice more - while my kids are young for a day or two, but not the 3 trips this year we have planned kind of visits.

 

[ihearttink]

As I read this thread I think resort guest with special FP privileges, that will never work. US only has three resorts, that's why it works for them. Personally, I love to stay at HR at US because of the FOTL privileges. It allows me to sleep in, enjoy the parks at our pace, and have time to do other things.

We also always stay on-site at Disney. For us the convience is huge. I like to go back to our resort during the day to swim, nap, whatever, and head back to the park in the evening. For us, if we stayed off site we would never go back to our hotel during the day and then go back to the park at night. Just seems like too much work.

But back to my thoughts, what if different resorts gave FP privileges to specific parks on specific days, i.e. CB, CS, WL get Epcot FP privileges on Monday, while CR, BW, BC/YC had FP privileges to MK on the same day. with 4 parks, I think this could distribute the FP more equally, while not using the whole allotment of FP for day guests. This would work fine with me. Yea, kinda like that thought.

 

[bicker]

The number of resorts just mean Disney needs to be more subtle in its implementation -- priority for FastPasses instead of FOTL access. There won't be any problem with that.