86'd From the Poly? No worries-bring us Margarita's & Wiener Salad! A TFW Meet Aug 08

[Disneyland_Mama]

I am sorry Tracy but I can not see how it is confusing, I was clearly referring to the comments that several people have made here in the past day or two about the "other place". I was sensing hostility towards those posting over there and I was not sure why that was since as far as I know nothing has happened to cause it, if something has happened I would love to know what it was so I can understand what is going on instead of being left in the dark.

So what do you suppose we call it? Have you not been to TFW? People who post both places are calling it that, so it's not people who don't post there calling it the "other place". I doubt DM wants us to post the actual name, KWIM? Sure there have been a few giggles, a few rolling eyes but I can sincerely say I don't know where you sense this hostility.

Of course your comment directed towards me about things already going bad was also heavy in attitude, perhaps I am wrong and misreading what has been posted, I hope that is the case as I have always gotten along with everybody here and I would hate for things to end up badly as I see no reason for it.

I could say the same thing about your post about Janet - maybe I read it wrong as well. It just seemed odd to me that you would post that and the way I read it, didn't seem right. If there are posts that you feel are hostile or heavy in attitude, by all means point them out and question them. That's what I did and found out it was mearly a misunderstanding.
There are no hard feelings between the posters of either place and I"m not going to play the "us against them" game. But you have to admit, some people have not posted here or on TFW anymore. Food for thought.

 

[Lifelong_Dreamer]

So what do you suppose we call it?
Have you not been to TFW? People who post both places are calling it that, so it's not people who don't post there calling it the "other place". I doubt DM wants us to post the actual name, KWIM? Sure there have been a few giggles, a few rolling eyes but I can sincerely say I don't know where you sense this hostility.

Sorry, another misunderstanding, I did not have a problem with it being called "the other place" and I have been reading and posting occasionally on TFW.

I was reading the giggles and rolling eyes comments as being pointed remarks against those of us who were posting over there. I am happy to know that I was wrong about that. The problem with messages boards is that often things are not read as they were intended especially by those not in on the joke. KWIM?

I could say the same thing about your post about Janet - maybe I read it wrong as well. It just seemed odd to me that you would post that and the way I read it, didn't seem right. If there are posts that you feel are hostile or heavy in attitude, by all means point them out and question them. That's what I did and found out it was mearly a misunderstanding.
There are no hard feelings between the posters of either place and I"m not going to play the "us against them" game. But you have to admit, some people have not posted here or on TFW anymore. Food for thought.

I am happy to hear that there are no hard feelings, reading over here the past two days that is the sense I was getting but I am glad to know that that is not true. I in no way meant to post anything negative against Janet, perhaps I could have worded it differently, all I meant was that since she and I had not mentioned a Pop meet in such a long time I was unsure if it was something that she could still work into her schedule on that day, there was nothing else meant by it and I am sorry if anybody else thought so.

As far as people not posting over here anymore I have only noticed one person, and she made it pretty clear that she was separating herself from the Dis but not from the friends she made over here.

 

[Phibbles]

Good god people. But I'm warning you and any **Creepy stalking peoples** I am bringing my DH with me and HE'S HUGE!

He is 6 feet 5 inches tall.

No matter that he's meek and mild, has never raised his voice to me in 20 years and couldn't kill a fly.

He'll rip ya up. MEL

Mel, if you need any help, just give a whistle. I'd be happy to bust a stalkers head for you. How dare they...

 

[DisneyJo]

Time for a recount, please let me know if anything changes, I hope it doesn't

Jo - 4A
T - 4A 2C
LL - 2A 1C
Janet - 5A 1C
V - 1A 1C
Mo - 1A 1C
Kate - 3A 2C
Z - 1A
Kat 1A
CE 2A 2C
Heidi 4A
Lessa 4A
S'Late 3A 2C
Mel 2A


That's making 37A and 12C, 49 people Confirmed!

 

[Muffinygood]

Let's not get too off topic, but I had to have my say as well. I detected a chilly draft around these parts myself in the last few days. I appreciate DSM setting the record straight, but also understand what Lessa was saying. It's too bad that it even came up. You can't be upset at her for pointing it out!

Let's all try to get along! I am SO excited about being added to Fockerfest! And that is because I love you all. And I don't give a fig where you post!!
As long as you show up at Fockerfest, wearing a smile, I am good.

I think the PoP meet at Petals is great. I am putting it into my pathetic little schedule right now! (I can't believe I am PURPOSELY going to WDW for only 3 days!!! ) I will put it down as 2 pm. That way we won't be late!

Oh, and Phibbles- Thanks! You are such a sweetie!

MEL

 

[DisneyJo]

Mel it is just you and your DH right, not the boys?

 

[Muffinygood]

Right Jo. We're leaving them home!!!

Well, they are going in June and December....so it's hard to feel bad for them!

Really looking forward to this. It's going to be so much fun. And the first time we've been to Disney alone since our Honeymoon 16 years ago!!!!

MEL

 

[PrincessV]

Jeez, peer pressure much?

Goodness, no pressure from me! I'm the first person to advise against sharing too much on the Internet. I was just pointing out that any discussion board, no matter how private it may seem, is open to an assortment of eyes. I say be careful, wherever you post.

Ok, I gotta know...how are you going to keep the cheese from sliding off the pizza as you schmuck the cooler thru security, into the overhead bin (and be careful as contents tend to shift during flight)...

I'm plannning to order a couple pizzas the day ebfore we leave and freeze em. It's only a 2+ hour flight, so they should still be close to forzen when we get home!

Do they ship out of town?

Yes, but it's PRICEY. Believe me, I've come close to ordering that $75 pizza on occasion.

 

[PrincessV]

Listen, we obviously all sense the 900-pound gorilla in the room and I think it best we acknowledge its presence. FockerFest 2008 is now spread over two different, and not particularly cohesive, discussion boards. It's creating tension and pehaps some animosity. People are feeling left out, divided and unsure about how much "fun" this dinner will actually be.

For me, the issue is this: FockerFest is and always has been about a specific group of DISers who got friendly on the DIS meeting up in person. It's hard for me to understand why anyone who no longer wants to be a part of the DIS, or makes fun of/isn't involved with Team Focker Watch, would want to participate in a meet so identified with those things. I don't harbor any ill feeling; I just don't understand.

So where do we go from here? Dump the Fest altogether? Stick with our initial plans and see what happens over the next few months? Go our separate ways?

I don't have the answer, but maybe by talking about it we can figure something out that works for all of us.

 

[Muffinygood]

Listen, we obviously all sense the 900-pound gorilla in the room and I think it best we acknowledge its presence. FockerFest 2008 is now spread over two different, and not particularly cohesive, discussion boards. It's creating tension and pehaps some animosity. People are feeling left out, divided and unsure about how much "fun" this dinner will actually be.

For me, the issue is this: FockerFest is and always has been about a specific group of DISers who got friendly on the DIS meeting up in person. It's hard for me to understand why anyone who no longer wants to be a part of the DIS, or makes fun of/isn't involved with Team Focker Watch, would want to participate in a meet so identified with those things. I don't harbor any ill feeling; I just don't understand.

So where do we go from here? Dump the Fest altogether? Stick with our initial plans and see what happens over the next few months? Go our separate ways?

I don't have the answer, but maybe by talking about it we can figure something out that works for all of us.

Wow, I'm so happy that you are giving us all this chance to air our feelings, V. I mean, surely that is what you want us to do after your post above. You couldn't possibly be trying to stir the pot again? Or just get your pitiful 15 lines of fame? Please. YOU are the only one who has an issue with the Fockerfest. Truly. You are the ONLY person I have seen mention that we should "dump the fest." I say if you don't want to attend, THEN DON'T. Take your bad attitude, your incendiary posts and whomever else agrees with you and go away.

Anyone who is feeling "left out, divided or unsure" has the option of NOT coming. No one was excluded from the other board. Do you forget that the lot of you WERE members there before you chose to leave? You were all invited. You were all welcomed with open arms. At NO point DID a SINGLE person try to keep you from being involved-here, there or at Fockerfest. You are the one who is trying to make it unpleasant. I may be sort of new to the TFW, but I can tell you one thing. I know a trouble maker when I see one.

I have NO problems with any of you. I am completely neutral. I don't play favorites. I have continued to post here and there. I am attending the Fockerfest for the first time! I don't have any allegiances. AND might I add, that you putting Jo in the middle of this is just wrong. Deal directly with the person you have an issue with. If you need to go to the "other board" to do it, then I am sure you know the way.

Flame away. I don't really mind. You obviously wanted to hear our opinions. There's mine.

MEL

 

[Disneyolic]

I had to come back to voice a bit of feelings as someone alerted me that tensions are flying a bit here.

I have tried to separate myself from the DIS but not so much because of anyone here at ALL! It's the way things are heading. I have found friends here at the DIS that I truly am glad for. So I'm glad I joined here originally. I've had a lot of good years here.

I have not bad feelings about any of you that left the other place. Yes, I'm calling it that too. Seems appropriate. I know there are still the lurkers over there and aliases . All's fine with me. I was a bit irked by the way a couple people left but that's life.

V - I truly appreciated you posting to say you were leaving. I am sorry that got out of hand. Believe me on that.

I think Fockerfest is a wonderful thing and I hope you all can lose the tensions and have fun together. The DIS is a fun place and so is the other. No one has to choose either or feel torn.

I am still friends with a lot of you and hope to continue those friendships no matter.

I hope I worded everyone okay. We all know that sometimes things get read "the wrong way". Just know that I am sincere in that I want you all to have a wonderful time and I'm sorry that my breaking away may have set things on a wrong note.

That all being said, unless someone thinks I should come back and read something important, I will not be back here. If you would like to keep up our friendships, we have emails and other spots. Take care!

 

[PrincessV]

Wow, I'm so happy that you are giving us all this chance to air our feelings, V. I mean, surely that is what you want us to do after your post above. You couldn't possibly be trying to stir the pot again? Or just get your pitiful 15 lines of fame? Please. YOU are the only one who has an issue with the Fockerfest. Truly. You are the ONLY person I have seen mention that we should "dump the fest." I say if you don't want to attend, THEN DON'T. Take your bad attitude, your incendiary posts and whomever else agrees with you and go away.

Anyone who is feeling "left out, divided or unsure" has the option of NOT coming. No one was excluded from the other board. Do you forget that the lot of you WERE members there before you chose to leave? You were all invited. You were all welcomed with open arms. At NO point DID a SINGLE person try to keep you from being involved-here, there or at Fockerfest. You are the one who is trying to make it unpleasant. I may be sort of new to the TFW, but I can tell you one thing. I know a trouble maker when I see one.

I have NO problems with any of you. I am completely neutral. I don't play favorites. I have continued to post here and there. I am attending the Fockerfest for the first time! I don't have any allegiances. AND might I add, that you putting Jo in the middle of this is just wrong. Deal directly with the person you have an issue with. If you need to go to the "other board" to do it, then I am sure you know the way.

Flame away. I don't really mind. You obviously wanted to hear our opinions. There's mine.

MEL

Wow. I'm nearly speechless, but I'll reply becuase you've clearly misunderstood me. Believe me when I say, I do't care who posts where. I DO care when something with which I'm involved is being discussed behind clsoed doors by people I don't know. That's just the cautious person in me.

I don't have an issue with any one person; I have an issue with people feeling caught in the middle of something I don't even understand. I have an issue with people I've known a long time and care about dearly sharing that they have concerns and don't know what to do about it.

My goal in bringing the perceived issue into the open was only to talk it out and figure something out so people aren't feeling so uneasy. Until your post, I was full-speed-ahead with Wienerthon and have for weeks encouraged those who were skeptical to hang in there and participate.

I'm truly sorry if my post hit you the wrong way.

 

[DisneyJo]

I'm still going to be at Biergarten and I would love you all to join me, BTW no-one is posting behind closed doors anyway!!!!!

 

[blue_river]

I'm still going to be at Biergarten and I would love you all to join me, BTW no-one is posting behind closed doors anyway!!!!!

Jo is right - no one is posting behind closed doors as far as I know. I know I don't post here often and I haven't even joined the focker thread at the other place. I'm just too busy, however, I am really looking forward to meeting all of you.

I sincerely hope that no one drops out!

 

[Disneyland_Mama]

All I'm going to say right now, is Mel - you are completely off base here. Your post was rude and totally uncalled for.

You obviously don't know V.

 

[jcc0621]

All I'm going to say right now, is Mel - you are completely off base here. Your post was rude and totally uncalled for.

You obviously don't know V.

You said this much better than me T....

 

[sorul82?]

All I'm going to say right now, is Mel - you are completely off base here. Your post was rude and totally uncalled for.

You obviously don't know V.

I couldn't agree more.

 

[Lauralee131]

Neil Diamond??? Oh Waldo's gonna love you!

Oh yeah...he makes me swoon.... AND he's on Idol again tonight! Me and Waldo can watch together...sort of...

How about the Unofficial Guide or one of the Imagineer Guides.

Awesome idea Janet! Thanks!

Listen, we obviously all sense the 900-pound gorilla in the room and I think it best we acknowledge its presence. FockerFest 2008 is now spread over two different, and not particularly cohesive, discussion boards. It's creating tension and pehaps some animosity. People are feeling left out, divided and unsure about how much "fun" this dinner will actually be.

For me, the issue is this: FockerFest is and always has been about a specific group of DISers who got friendly on the DIS meeting up in person. It's hard for me to understand why anyone who no longer wants to be a part of the DIS, or makes fun of/isn't involved with Team Focker Watch, would want to participate in a meet so identified with those things. I don't harbor any ill feeling; I just don't understand.

So where do we go from here? Dump the Fest altogether? Stick with our initial plans and see what happens over the next few months? Go our separate ways?

I don't have the answer, but maybe by talking about it we can figure something out that works for all of us.

Wow, I'm so happy that you are giving us all this chance to air our feelings, V. I mean, surely that is what you want us to do after your post above. You couldn't possibly be trying to stir the pot again? Or just get your pitiful 15 lines of fame? Please. YOU are the only one who has an issue with the Fockerfest.

Wow Mel...what's up with that? Pitiful 15 lines of fame? Who's got issues here? I don't think V intended to incite any kind of riot or any responses like yours.

Truly. You are the ONLY person I have seen mention that we should "dump the fest." I say if you don't want to attend, THEN DON'T. Take your bad attitude, your incendiary posts and whomever else agrees with you and go away.

Actually, quite a few of us have been considering just bagging it. There were a total of 5 of us that planned this to start with, invited some others, some others invited themselves and it became a group of 50, which was great. But it tended to take on a life of it's own and became less about a group of friends reuniting once a year. No one in particular is making me not want to go, but honestly I planned to go simply to get together with some "old" friends, meet up with some "new" ones and meet a few new people. Sure, it's gotten to be a huge event and whether or not there's another board...whatever. No one needs to be defensive about it. I'm still going to go, visit with my friends, etc...but the way I see it, your first few sentences were kind of an attack on V, who's just trying to get everyone to say whether or not they think we should still meet. And if there's people on another board somewhere bashing us over here or vice versa, then maybe they should plan a meet somewhere else.

We want to go and have fun and not have any tension - spoken or unspoken.

Anyone who is feeling "left out, divided or unsure" has the option of NOT coming. No one was excluded from the other board. Do you forget that the lot of you WERE members there before you chose to leave? You were all invited. You were all welcomed with open arms. At NO point DID a SINGLE person try to keep you from being involved-here, there or at Fockerfest. You are the one who is trying to make it unpleasant. I may be sort of new to the TFW, but I can tell you one thing. I know a trouble maker when I see one.

You're right...no one is trying to keep anyone from being involved at Fockerfest. The event that WE planned and welcomed others to attend. No one is trying to make it unpleasant...just trying to air any issues, obviously like this one and if you think V's a trouble maker, well, yes you certainly are new to TFW and don't know her at all. Or very many of us at all.

The post had nothing to do with an attack on anyone over at "the other place"...obviously you're reading way too much into it. Especially for someone whom invited themselves at this late date.

I have NO problems with any of you. I am completely neutral. I don't play favorites. I have continued to post here and there. I am attending the Fockerfest for the first time! I don't have any allegiances.

Sorry - you're nothing close to being neutral Mel. Not with some of those comments above.

AND might I add, that you putting Jo in the middle of this is just wrong. Deal directly with the person you have an issue with. If you need to go to the "other board" to do it, then I am sure you know the way.

No one PUT Jo in the middle of anything. She's the sweetest thing and is friends with everyone. And you'll see that when you meet her. JO - when you read this, I'm truly sorry you feel in the middle of something. There's no animosity against you for anything....I don't care where you spend you time or who you are friendly with. I love ya anyway - no matter what - because of who you are. Nothing more, nothing less. There...now THAT's neutral. For crying out loud, it's a freakin' internet message board...this is so high school Mel.

Flame away. I don't really mind. You obviously wanted to hear our opinions. There's mine.
MEL

Opinion heard. Loud and clear. And I quote, Take your bad attitude, your incendiary posts and whomever else agrees with you and go away.

I had to come back to voice a bit of feelings as someone alerted me that tensions are flying a bit here.

I have tried to separate myself from the DIS but not so much because of anyone here at ALL! It's the way things are heading. I have found friends here at the DIS that I truly am glad for. So I'm glad I joined here originally. I've had a lot of good years here.

I have not bad feelings about any of you that left the other place. Yes, I'm calling it that too. Seems appropriate. I know there are still the lurkers over there and aliases . All's fine with me. I was a bit irked by the way a couple people left but that's life.

V - I truly appreciated you posting to say you were leaving. I am sorry that got out of hand. Believe me on that.

I think Fockerfest is a wonderful thing and I hope you all can lose the tensions and have fun together. The DIS is a fun place and so is the other. No one has to choose either or feel torn.

I am still friends with a lot of you and hope to continue those friendships no matter.

I hope I worded everyone okay. We all know that sometimes things get read "the wrong way". Just know that I am sincere in that I want you all to have a wonderful time and I'm sorry that my breaking away may have set things on a wrong note.

That all being said, unless someone thinks I should come back and read something important, I will not be back here. If you would like to keep up our friendships, we have emails and other spots. Take care!

Don't worry DM...there are no hard feelings because of you. I don't know how this whole tension thing got started. And I don't really know you well anyway, so I can't say much. And yes, like Mel said, everyone was welcomed to the other site, some of us checked it out and it just wasn't for us. Didn't feel like the DIS for me. Plain and simple. I'm happy here and like I posted over there, I don't do anything to get me banned from here, don't say anything that my child wouldn't be able to see/read and honestly am grateful this site is here for us all to use. And it's free. Can't beat that.

And as far as the way I left, I would have left regardless DM...really, just wasn't the kind of place I was looking for. But nobody, especially V of all people who's been so incredibly nice to everyone, didn't deserve those kind of comments from Buzz...sense of humor or not. That kind of crap wouldn't make anyone feel "welcome" if they were to sign on and read that for the first time. Regardless of whether or not he knew who posted it.

Your site seemed to be a lot of bashing, swearing (just because) and cattyness and not so much Disney. But by no means do I think that anyone over there is a bad person, nor do I bash anyone over there or here. Life's too short for this ridiculous crap. And it is ridiculous. It's the internet for crying out loud.

Everyone seems to have forgotten...it was all started by a Mouse...

 

[TheDISneyFamily]

Wow! I have to cancel my trip to FockerFest and all he-doulbehockeysticks breaks loose over here.

Peace out, my friends. It's all good.

Disney trip planning and chatting is supposed to be a happy thing!

I think everyone needs a group hug!

Love you guys & I'm REALLY going to miss you in August!

-Me

 

[cmp1111]

Oh, goodness.

I was just trying to quickly check in as I'm on vacation, but I do feel that I need to chime in here.

V, and DM, thanks for helping to clear the air and bring the discussion out.

Mel, I hate getting mad at anyone, but that seems way off base and way too harsh. V is a huge part of the heart and soul of the Fockers and to accuse her of looking for fame is ridiculous. Obviously people are feeling a little worried one way or the other about having a "split" in the group, and that's all she was saying.

I've obviously been out of the loop, but I am upset that things are not right, group-wise.

I am absolutely still in for the meet, and I will be sorely disappointed if I can't meet the people I'm traveling to FL in August to meet in the first place. JO.

I hope everyone's having a decent week other than the drama around here, and I'll be back in touch when I get back home.