737 Max

[sam_gordon]

Are they?

I'd say yes based on the responses of this thread...

I still think I would try very hard to avoid one of them!

I can tell you that I honestly would not get on that plane.

I’ll stick with Delta and their French planes.

 

[SirDuff]

I'd say yes based on the responses of this thread...

Those are over a year old. I don’t think that they are good evidence what people are *still* reluctant to fly on a 737 Max.

 

[kdonnel]

Is every licensed/certified pilot considered competent?

No

There are significant differences between a commercial pilots license from the FAA vs EASA.

 

[sam_gordon]

Those are over a year old. I don’t think that they are good evidence what people are *still* reluctant to fly on a 737 Max.

You're right. I didn't catch the year. I bet they still are though.

 

[fly girl]

You're right. I didn't catch the year. I bet they still are though.

I bet some are, but I wouldn't say an overwhelming majority. Face it, if the flight is cheap people will book it regardless of what aircraft. That is why people fly Spirit and Allegiant (ie. ValueJet).

Personally, I would have zero hesitation to get on a 737Max flown by UA, AA, or SWA. Those pilots have had sufficient training. YMMV, and I totally get that. But I do have confidence in our pilots. If they didn't feel safe they wouldn't fly it.

 

[sam_gordon]

I bet some are, but I wouldn't say an overwhelming majority. Face it, if the flight is cheap people will book it regardless of what aircraft. That is why people fly Spirit and Allegiant (ie. ValueJet).

Personally, I would have zero hesitation to get on a 737Max flown by UA, AA, or SWA. Those pilots have had sufficient training. YMMV, and I totally get that. But I do have confidence in our pilots. If they didn't feel safe they wouldn't fly it.

Oh, totally get that the majority would have no problems flying it. Personally, I don't even look at the type of plane when I'm booking. Wasn't really the point I was trying to make though.

 

[bcla]

Personally, I would have zero hesitation to get on a 737Max flown by UA, AA, or SWA. Those pilots have had sufficient training. YMMV, and I totally get that. But I do have confidence in our pilots. If they didn't feel safe they wouldn't fly it.

The really odd thing was that quite a few pilots were able to turn off MCAS when it was acting up, even though Boeing didn't even acknowledge that it existed. One report said that the Lion Air plane that crashed had another crew turn into off without borking the flight controls.

But being able to turn off MCAS is going to be an absolute point of emphasis for any pilot who might be assigned to a 737 MAX. Besides that they cleaned up this system so that it shouldn't do that again even with a malfunctioning sensor.

 

[fly girl]

Oh, totally get that the majority would have no problems flying it. Personally, I don't even look at the type of plane when I'm booking. Wasn't really the point I was trying to make though.

oops. sorry

went over my head then.

 

[godisney14]

I bet some are, but I wouldn't say an overwhelming majority. Face it, if the flight is cheap people will book it regardless of what aircraft. That is why people fly Spirit and Allegiant (ie. ValueJet).

Personally, I would have zero hesitation to get on a 737Max flown by UA, AA, or SWA. Those pilots have had sufficient training. YMMV, and I totally get that. But I do have confidence in our pilots. If they didn't feel safe they wouldn't fly it.

True of Spirit before the 737 Max debacle. But, will it be true going forward? Possibly. But, won’t know for sure until travel rebounds and we see the numbers.

Why only mention UA, AA, and SWA? Do Delta, Virgin, Hawaiian and all the other carriers’ pilots go through a less intensive training?

 

[bcla]

True of Spirit before the 737 Max debacle. But, will it be true going forward? Possibly. But, won’t know for sure until travel rebounds and we see the numbers.

Why only mention UA, AA, and SWA? Do Delta, Virgin, Hawaiian and all the other carriers’ pilots go through a less intensive training?

I'm pretty sure it was specific since Delta and Hawaiian don't have the 737 MAX in their fleets. Virgin (Atlantic?) is British, but they also don't have any 737. You mention Spirit, which has a 100% Airbus fleet.

The other US airline with the 737 MAX is Alaska.

 

[fly girl]

True of Spirit before the 737 Max debacle. But, will it be true going forward? Possibly. But, won’t know for sure until travel rebounds and we see the numbers.

Why only mention UA, AA, and SWA? Do Delta, Virgin, Hawaiian and all the other carriers’ pilots go through a less intensive training?

Spirit doesn't fly the 737MAX. Neither does Allegiant.

My reply on training was only in response to 737MAX. UA, AA, SWA, and Alaskan (I failed to mention them) are the only US carriers that fly the MAX.

And yes, the other airlines you mentioned have pilots who undergo the same extensive training, they just don't fly the MAX and that is what my post was about. (If you look at my history you will see I am very partial to one in particular. )

 

[fly girl]

I'm pretty sure it was specific since Delta and Hawaiian don't have the 737 MAX in their fleets. Virgin (Atlantic?) is British, but they also don't have any 737. You mention Spirit, which has a 100% Airbus fleet.

The other US airline with the 737 MAX is Alaska.

We were in sync with our response. You nailed what I was referring to.

 

[bcla]

We were in sync with our response. You nailed what I was referring to.

I got it. But you missed Alaska. I think they're the only US regional airline that has the 737 MAX.

 

[JimMIA]

I got it. But you missed Alaska. I think they're the only US regional airline that has the 737 MAX.

Alaska is not a regional airline.

 

[fly girl]

I got it. But you missed Alaska. I think they're the only US regional airline that has the 737 MAX.

I my response I said I failed to mention Alaskan Airlines.