3rd Grade Math Extra Credit- Help Please

[Trentmom]

My son brought home an extra credit work sheet for Math.

We are working on it and have it somewhat figured out, but we are stumped on part of it. I am going write down what we have and what we think are correct answers.

The first line we deciphered it as:


PEOPLE =3O(Letter, no zero) -2 M EN =24

The 2nd line we deciphered as:

N=3 +3+3+3 E=1 23 + 44


It is asking how many people are stranded on island. We have been talking with a few parents and kids.. Some are thinking there are 26 people, of them 2 are men and 24 are women. Other group is thinking there are 24 people total, 22 women and 2 men.

How many people do you think there are? How many women? Men?

Then, when we read the second line, we realized that is the directions we need to go on map to figure out what island they are on.

So we went North 3 degrees +3degrees+3 Degrees, for total of 9 degrees.

Then, we added 123 +44 and got 167 degrees, so we went east 167 degrees.

Thus, that would place us on Lib Island.


So, if 24 people is correct, then I believe we got bottom 4 questions correct, which are:

The navy dropped enough supplies for 10 days.

1 Tent for 4 people to be shared = They would have dropped 6 tents

2 Potatoes per day for each person = 24 people x2 potatoes each, would be 48 potatoes x 10 days, 480 potatoes

1 Lemon for each person every other day, 5 days times 24 = 120 Lemons

1 Gallon of water for two people to share each day:

12 gallons x10 = 120 gallons

Of course if answer is 26, will have to redo bottom math.


So what are everyone's thoughts?

Thanks

 

[crashbb]

I'm probably totally out to lunch, but my guess (before reading your answers) was 28 people - 24 men and 4 women.

People=30-2=28
Men=24

Basically, I broke it into two sentences.

ETA - I did the second bit like you did. You'll notice that you did break that one into two sentences.

For the final part, assuming 28 people, you'd need 7 tents, 560 potatoes, 140 lemons, 140 gallons of water.

 

[EMAW_KSU]

So what are everyone's thoughts?

Thanks

Let your 3rd grader do it.

 

[sam_gordon]

My son brought home an extra credit work sheet for Math.

We are working on it and have it somewhat figured out, but we are stumped on part of it. I am going write down what we have and what we think are correct answers.

The first line we deciphered it as:


PEOPLE =3O(Letter, no zero) -2 M EN =24

The 2nd line we deciphered as:

N=3 +3+3+3 E=1 23 + 44


It is asking how many people are stranded on island. We have been talking with a few parents and kids.. Some are thinking there are 26 people, of them 2 are men and 24 are women. Other group is thinking there are 24 people total, 22 women and 2 men.

How many people do you think there are? How many women? Men?

Then, when we read the second line, we realized that is the directions we need to go on map to figure out what island they are on.

So we went North 3 degrees +3degrees+3 Degrees, for total of 9 degrees.

Then, we added 123 +44 and got 167 degrees, so we went east 167 degrees.

Thus, that would place us on Lib Island.


So, if 24 people is correct, then I believe we got bottom 4 questions correct, which are:

The navy dropped enough supplies for 10 days.

1 Tent for 4 people to be shared = They would have dropped 6 tents

2 Potatoes per day for each person = 24 people x2 potatoes each, would be 48 potatoes x 10 days, 480 potatoes

1 Lemon for each person every other day, 5 days times 24 = 120 Lemons

1 Gallon of water for two people to share each day:

12 gallons x10 = 120 gallons

Of course if answer is 26, will have to redo bottom math.


So what are everyone's thoughts?

Thanks

I think your translation of the two lines of notes are correct, but how you're interrupting them is wrong.

People = 30 -2 = 28
Men = 24
N: 3+3+3 = 9
E: 123+44 = 167

So,
28 people
24 men (meaning there are 4 women)
Island I agree is Lib Island
# of tents = 7 (28/4)
# of potatos = 560 (2*28*10)
# of lemons = 140 (28 * 5)
# of Gallons of Water = 140 (14 * 10)

He used the O (letter not number) AS the number 0 because that's one less note he needed to play.

 

[pumpkinmomma]

Let your 3rd grader do it.

This.

Have your kid answer it with what he thinks is correct.

Why are the parents comparing answers anyway? Shouldn't the kids be working on this by themselves?

 

[Trentmom]

This.

Have your kid answer it with what he thinks is correct.

Why are the parents comparing answers anyway? Shouldn't the kids be working on this by themselves?

Let your 3rd grader do it.

I wish I could. My son has an IEP and needs extra help and guidance.

So unfortunately, he is not able to do this completely alone.

If I do not understand it, how can I help him go in the right direction in solving it?

Thanks

 

[Trentmom]

I'm probably totally out to lunch, but my guess (before reading your answers) was 28 people - 24 men and 4 women.

People=30-2=28
Men=24

Basically, I broke it into two sentences.

ETA - I did the second bit like you did. You'll notice that you did break that one into two sentences.

For the final part, assuming 28 people, you'd need 7 tents, 560 potatoes, 140 lemons, 140 gallons of water.

I think your translation of the two lines of notes are correct, but how you're interrupting them is wrong.

People = 30 -2 = 28
Men = 24
N: 3+3+3 = 9
E: 123+44 = 167

So,
28 people
24 men (meaning there are 4 women)
Island I agree is Lib Island
# of tents = 7 (28/4)
# of potatos = 560 (2*28*10)
# of lemons = 140 (28 * 5)
# of Gallons of Water = 140 (14 * 10)

He used the O (letter not number) AS the number 0 because that's one less note he needed to play.

Thank you both very much for your helpful responses.

Now I can sit down with my son and help steer him in the right direction.

 

[Praying Colonel]

Let your 3rd grader do it.

 

[Trentmom]

Funny


Did you read above? My son has an IEP, thus a learning disability and his brain does not work like everyone elses.

He needs guidance and extra help and gets this daily at school and at home.

If I do not understand it, how do you expect me to guide him in the right direction?

 

[Praying Colonel]

If I do not understand it, how do you expect me to guide him in the right direction?

Consult with the teacher, maybe?

 

[Sadie22]

It's more important that he understand the process of how to solve the problem than that he (and you) get the answers absolutely correct.

If the problems are above your comprehension, that's something to bring to the attention of the teacher that perhaps he/she might select some things at an actual third-grade level for extra-credit assignments.

 

[Trentmom]

It's more important that he understand the process of how to solve the problem than that he (and you) get the answers absolutely correct.

If the problems are above your comprehension, that's something to bring to the attention of the teacher that perhaps he/she might select some things at an actual third-grade level for extra-credit assignments.

I was going mention that to the teacher, but in trying to figure this out on my own at first, I looked online and this worksheet is listed as 3rd grade math and not at higher grade level, so I felt silly.

 

[sam_gordon]

Let your 3rd grader do it.

This.

Have your kid answer it with what he thinks is correct.

Why are the parents comparing answers anyway? Shouldn't the kids be working on this by themselves?

I'm curious if the three of you don't allow your kids to ask you for help.
"Daddy, I don't understand this homework."
"Ask your teacher tomorrow son."

 

[Praying Colonel]

^No, I just asked others for help on the Internet, instead.

 

[buffettgirl]

I was going mention that to the teacher, but in trying to figure this out on my own at first, I looked online and this worksheet is listed as 3rd grade math and not at higher grade level, so I felt silly.

Since it does appear that you will need to help your son with his homework for a good number of years, is it possible that you could strengthen your own math skills by utilizing something like Khan Academy (online) or taking a night school class in math? I certainly don't want to be insulting by suggesting it, so please don't take it that way, but this was easy math homework that shouldn't have been challenging to an adult. As you said earlier, you can't help him if you don't understand it yourself.

As adults, we're usually much more able to recognize and fill in the gaps of our own education. When my child was taking a certain class in high school I recognized that my knowledge on that topic was not anywhere near where it should be, so I did my own reading on the subject.

It also shows your child that learning never stops.

 

[Kat77]

http://www.lyvemedia.com/delta/grad...nvestigation_1/sound_inv1_int_extensions.html

Notes on the Problem. The first line of music decodes as:
people = 30 – 2 men = 24.

The second line of music decodes as:
N = 3 + 3 + 3 E = 123 + 44.

There are 28 people: 24 men and 4 women.
They are at 9° north latitude, 167° east longitude (Lib Island).

They will need 7 tents, 560 potatoes, 140 lemons, and 140 gallons of water.

 

[LongLiveDisney]

Let your 3rd grader do it.

Geez. There's nothing wrong with helping your kid with homework. What are you going to tell your kids when they ask you for help? Just tell them to do it themselves even if they're totally clueless? You don't have to give him or her the answers, but at least HELP them. Kids can't always do things completely on their own, especially if they have an IEP like the OP's son.

 

[Schmeck]

For regular homework, I'd think it was OK (and expected) to help, but for extra credit? I always expected my kids to do the 'extra' credit stuff on their own.

 

[Trentmom]

I'm curious if the three of you don't allow your kids to ask you for help.
"Daddy, I don't understand this homework."
"Ask your teacher tomorrow son."

Thank You. I was wondering the same thing

Since it does appear that you will need to help your son with his homework for a good number of years, is it possible that you could strengthen your own math skills by utilizing something like Khan Academy (online) or taking a night school class in math? I certainly don't want to be insulting by suggesting it, so please don't take it that way, but this was easy math homework that shouldn't have been challenging to an adult. As you said earlier, you can't help him if you don't understand it yourself.

As adults, we're usually much more able to recognize and fill in the gaps of our own education. When my child was taking a certain class in high school I recognized that my knowledge on that topic was not anywhere near where it should be, so I did my own reading on the subject.

It also shows your child that learning never stops.

Not insulted at all. It really was the first line that was throwing me. The rest I understood. The spacing on the worksheet was smushed together, making it harder to understand.

They are doing everyday math, so when he brings home his homework, I go on that website and can look at lessons associated with homework, thus learning myself.

I am sure as he gets older, I will need to freshen up my math skills and I will.

I was a straight A student in regular math, alegbra I and II, but that was back in the 90s, so my mind is a little fuzzy


Thanks for your suggestions

http://www.lyvemedia.com/delta/grad...nvestigation_1/sound_inv1_int_extensions.html

Notes on the Problem. The first line of music decodes as:
people = 30 – 2 men = 24.

The second line of music decodes as:
N = 3 + 3 + 3 E = 123 + 44.

There are 28 people: 24 men and 4 women.
They are at 9° north latitude, 167° east longitude (Lib Island).

They will need 7 tents, 560 potatoes, 140 lemons, and 140 gallons of water.

Thanks.

Geez. There's nothing wrong with helping your kid with homework. What are you going to tell your kids when they ask you for help? Just tell them to do it themselves even if they're totally clueless? You don't have to give him or her the answers, but at least HELP them. Kids can't always do things completely on their own, especially if they have an IEP like the OP's son.

Thank You for your support.

If he didn't have a learning disability, then he would be able to do more on his own. He is in a 3rd grade inclusion class, so he gets extra help from an aide. Things needs to be broken down for him into smaller steps and he can't just read that worksheet and figure all that out. It is overwhelming for him.

 

[buffettgirl]

They are doing everyday math, so when he brings home his homework, I go on that website and can look at lessons associated with homework, thus learning myself.

I am sure as he gets older, I will need to freshen up my math skills and I will.

I was a straight A student in regular math, alegbra I and II, but that was back in the 90s, so my mind is a little fuzzy

oh hell, you're screwed.
Wait till you get to the messed up way they try to teach multiplication/division. BTDT. Have you had the joy of the Fact Triangles yet?