32 picketers arrested outside Disneyland

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A protester dressed as Snow White is walked off by a police officer after being arrested during a demonstration protesting Disney's treatment of hotel workers outside of Disney Land in Anaheim, Calif., on Thursday, Aug. 14, 2008. (THE ASSOCIATED PRESS/The Orange County Register, Joshua Sudock
ANAHEIM, Calif. - Cinderella, Snow White, Tinkerbell and other fictional fixtures of modern-day childhood were handcuffed, frisked and loaded into police vans Thursday at the culmination of a labour protest that brought a touch of reality to the Happiest Place on Earth.

The arrest of the 32 protesters, many of whom wore costumes representing famous Disney characters, came at the end of an hour-long march to Disneyland's gates from one of three Disney-owned hotels at the centre of a labour dispute.

Those who were arrested sat in a circle on a busy intersection outside the park holding hands until they were placed in plastic handcuffs and led to two police vans while hundreds of hotel workers cheered and chanted.

The protesters were arrested on a misdemeanor count of failure to obey a police officer and two traffic infractions, and were expected to be booked and released later Thursday, said Sgt. Rick Martinez of the Anaheim police.

Bewildered tourists in Disney T-shirts and caps, some pushing strollers, filed past the commotion and gawked at the costumed picketers getting hauled away. The protest shut down a major thoroughfare outside Disneyland and California Adventure for nearly an hour.

"It's changing my opinion of Disneyland," said tourist Amanda Kosato, who was visiting from north of Melbourne, Australia. "Taking away entitlements stinks."

The dispute involves about 2,300 maids, bell hops, cooks and dishwashers at three Disney-owned hotels: the Paradise Pier, the Grand Californian and the Disneyland Hotel.

The workers' contract expired in February and their union says Disney's latest proposal makes health care unaffordable for hundreds of employees and creates an unfair two-tier wage system. The union also says Disney wants to create a new category of part-time employees who would receive greatly reduced benefits.

"The other hotels around the area all have health care that is provided by the boss and have been able to get wage increases," said Ava Briceno, president of Unite Here Local 681, which represents the workers.

"At the other hotels in the same classification, for the same work, the workers get paid $2 to $3 an hour more."

Disney spokeswoman Lisa Haines said that Disney and the union are in negotiations and nothing has been finalized. She said workers have protested 14 times but sat down to negotiate only 11 times in the past six months.

"Clearly we're disappointed that Unite Here Local 681 has spent more time protesting," she said. "Publicity stunts are not productive and are extremely disruptive to the resort district."

Before the arrests, the picketers marched and chanted outside Paradise Pier, holding signs that read, "Disney is unfaithful," and "Mickey, shame on you." They were joined by community activists and religious leaders from local churches.

Luz Vasquez, who works in the bakery at Disneyland Hotel, said she can't afford to lose many of her benefits. She said it's already hard to care for her three grandchildren and aging mother while earning $14.32 an hour.

"Disneyland is being unfair with us because we're fighting for our health care and they're trying to take it away," said Vasquez, 45. "They're trying to cut our hours and take away our seniority."

Co-worker Diane Dominguez, 50, said she was worried about losing health care because of the heavy labour involved in lifting mattresses, moving furniture and making dozens of beds a day. She also said rising prices and the cost of gas were eating into her salary of $11.11 an hour.

"The most important is health care. We need that and they want to take it away," she said.

At the heart of the issue is a free health care plan that has been provided to Disney hotel workers through a trust fund that Disney and other unionized hotels in the area pay into.

Briceno said that in exchange for the free medical plan, union members agreed in previous contracts to a lower wage for hotel workers in the first three years of their employment.

But Disney now wants to eliminate the free health plan for new hires and wants to create a new class of workers who put in less than 30 hours a week, said Briceno. Those part-time workers would receive no sick or vacation pay and not be given holidays, she said.

The company also wants to increase the number of hours full-time employees must work before qualifying for the health plan, she said.

"At the end of the day what it means is that workers are going to be priced out of health care," she said.

Haines said the majority of other employees at Disneyland pay for a share of their health plan, even though the resort shoulders about 75 per cent of the overall cost. She said it's important to negotiate a contract that's fair to those other unions, too.

"We do remain hopeful that we can reach an agreement that's both fair and equitable, providing that union leadership is reasonable and realistic in its approach," Haines said.


©The Canadian Press, 2008
 
""It's changing my opinion of Disneyland," said tourist Amanda Kosato, who was visiting from north of Melbourne, Australia. "Taking away entitlements stinks.""

Was this lady being sarcastic? My initial thought was that she definitely was. However, when I read it the second time, I started to wonder.
 
""It's changing my opinion of Disneyland," said tourist Amanda Kosato, who was visiting from north of Melbourne, Australia. "Taking away entitlements stinks.""

Was this lady being sarcastic? My initial thought was that she definitely was. However, when I read it the second time, I started to wonder.

I wondered the same thing. It seemed sarcastic to me too.
 
there was a post about this a bit ago i cant belive the protesting is still going on i fill bad for those kids who had to see there disney charcters going to joil..there are other ways to get what you want but dressing up like thats nuts.

I hope they get something figuerd out soon
 

I did not take that statement in a sarcastic tone, I believe that tourist was being genuine.
This situation is very involved, and I so very much hope that the workers, their union and Disney corporation can come to terms that will benefit all that it involves, and to do so, without infringing upon the welfare of their workers present, and future. That is so extremely important to me, for I never care to see the rights of workers, diminished in whole or in part.
 
I'd rather pay for decent healthcare than get free healthcare that stinks. But maybe that makes me crazy.
 
I see both sides of this. It sucks for the people that are getting their health care taken away a bit, but it sucks for Disney that is footing the bill for our pricey economy.

Aren't they still going to get discount healthcare? They should be lucky to even have an employer that offers to pay for some of the healthcare!! Many workers have to pay for everything!
 
""It's changing my opinion of Disneyland," said tourist Amanda Kosato, who was visiting from north of Melbourne, Australia. "Taking away entitlements stinks.""

Was this lady being sarcastic? My initial thought was that she definitely was. However, when I read it the second time, I started to wonder.
Considering that Australia has state-run health care for all citizens and residents, I don't believe she was being sarcastic at all.

Why are people "entitled" to free health care?
Well, let's see, MANY MANY MANY countries have publicly-funded health care available to their citizens.

The United States is the most industrialized country that does not assure availability to health care to its citizens.

Many non-Americans can not fathom any possible explanation why US citizens have to worry about being able to afford health care. It's simply unthinkable to them that a country does not have health care available for it's citizens.

This is the TRUE issue at heart of those picketing at DLR, sadly it is soooo much bigger than just them and Disney. It's an issue an entire nation needs to address.
 
I most whole heartily agree with your sentiments Disney Dreams!
 
*raises hand*

In Germany we still pay for health care. The costs for health insurance are split between employer and employee. There's certain exceptions if you work in a so called "400 Euro job" that does have to meet certain requirements, like a very limited number of hours (depending on the field).

The employee also pays an extra fee for certain medicines (usually around $ 7) or sometimes the medicine is not covered at all. My allergy stuff for example is not covered by any program. I have to get so called "private prescriptions" and pay for it on my own.

They also make you pay $ 15 every quarter for "health care administrative fees". You have to pay a daily premium when you are in hospital and you have to pay your share for a hospital transport etc.

Most dental work is no longer covered either if you don't have a separate insurance.

The only exceptions for that are when you are living from welfare checks, social security payments and such. But if you are working, you are paying for health care one way or the other.

I fully realize that this is nothing compared to what some folks in the US pay, but still that's not free health care.
 
No, Vala,that is not free health care, as far as I am concerned people in this world should not have to worry about affording proper health care, and it would be wonderful, if universal health care could exist everywhere, maybe one day it will be, until then, it would be nice if one was not nickel and dimed to death regarding health care costs, and people should never have to choose between eating that week or paying for their prescriptions.

Waving to Vala! :)

I am a pretty terrible procrastinator, that is my lazy excuse for not having sent you a recent message yet. I do plan on it, though! :) (walking off now, for I am embarrassed over my lazy booty ways)
 
I'd rather pay for decent healthcare than get free healthcare that stinks. But maybe that makes me crazy.


I married absolutely fabulous healthcare when I married my ABC castmember husband a year ago. (and got an absolutely fabulous husband too!!!)

I am a diabetic - and before that I was cutting my pills in half and using syringes twice before throwing them away. One type of insulin was almost $700 when I would fill the prescription and that's only ONE of two insulin's I use.

Disney has very good health insurance.....it's actually not insurance at all...but that is not the point. (they self-insure)

We ALL deserve decent health care. I know what it's like to have none.

This is not a laughing matter to many people.
 
*raises hand*

In Germany we still pay for health care. The costs for health insurance are split between employer and employee. There's certain exceptions if you work in a so called "400 Euro job" that does have to meet certain requirements, like a very limited number of hours (depending on the field).

The employee also pays an extra fee for certain medicines (usually around $ 7) or sometimes the medicine is not covered at all. My allergy stuff for example is not covered by any program. I have to get so called "private prescriptions" and pay for it on my own.

They also make you pay $ 15 every quarter for "health care administrative fees". You have to pay a daily premium when you are in hospital and you have to pay your share for a hospital transport etc.

Most dental work is no longer covered either if you don't have a separate insurance.

The only exceptions for that are when you are living from welfare checks, social security payments and such. But if you are working, you are paying for health care one way or the other.

I fully realize that this is nothing compared to what some folks in the US pay, but still that's not free health care.

My apologies. I understood Germany to be part of those countries within the EU that have government offered healthcare available to it's citizens. I have revised my first post. Thanks for the correction.

- Dreams
 
I'd rather pay than get free substandard heathcare. Why would so many Canadians cross the border to pay for healthcare over here if there's was so great? My aunt lives in Calgary (all her life) and she doesn't think it's great. She also told me that it isn't "free" either. They are all forced to pay a certain amount per month. Yes, the cost is minimal, but so is the care. They have to be put on waiting lists for procedures that here (in the U.S.) you can have scheduled in a day. It's sad. And no one here in the United States (even illegals) can get turned down for emergency treatment. By law, any hospital would have to treat you, even if you couldn't pay.
 
No one gets "free" health care... They all pay for it through their taxes... In the USA rather than paying for healthcare for it citizens we buy bombs and drop them on other countries! Wait..... I want my money back! :thumbsup2
 
No, Vala,that is not free health care, as far as I am concerned people in this world should not have to worry about affording proper health care, and it would be wonderful, if universal health care could exist everywhere, maybe one day it will be, until then, it would be nice if one was not nickel and dimed to death regarding health care costs, and people should never have to choose between eating that week or paying for their prescriptions.

I thought it wouldn't be considered free health care when you look closely. On the first sight the German system fools you terribly. ;)

But then on the other hand I know how much a hospital stay in the US costs daily if you have no insurance (happened to a friend of mine), so the share we have to pay looks tiny.

In general if you're in a life threatening situation (heart attack or something) you will be treated if you have insurance or not. But if you don't have insurance, the hospital/doctor will try to get the money back from you if you are not exempt from paying due to the above mentioned welfare payments.

If the situation is considered non-life threatening (and we all know that this definition can be extremely subjective) you will not be treated if you can't prove you are insured or you can pay.
An example from my personal experience: My grandmother fell in her house a while ago. My mother (she doesn't drive) called an ambulance and they were taken to the hospital. In her panic they forgot to bring her insurance card. They wouldn't treat her - "non life threatening situation". Cue me running off from work, driving to my grandmother's house, tearing the place apart and rushing to the hospital to bring them the card.
Turned out grandmother had a broken hip and had hip replacement surgery the very next day.

Officially of course nothing like that is supposed to happen, but the reality looks very different to what the politicians try to paint a picture of.

Waving to Vala! :)

I am a pretty terrible procrastinator, that is my lazy excuse for not having sent you a recent message yet. I do plan on it, though! :) (walking off now, for I am embarrassed over my lazy booty ways)

*waves back* No worries, I know how busy one can get. I was just thinking maybe I hit a wrong button and the message didn't go through.

No one gets "free" health care... They all pay for it through their taxes...

That's about the way the "welfare cases" are treated here. Their payment is paid by the community through taxes. For all others you have to have health insurance if you're not self-employed (and I think the laws for self employment changed recently). We have way over 200 insurance companies here.
 
""It's changing my opinion of Disneyland," said tourist Amanda Kosato, who was visiting from north of Melbourne, Australia. "Taking away entitlements stinks.""

Was this lady being sarcastic? My initial thought was that she definitely was. However, when I read it the second time, I started to wonder.

I think there's a slight language difference. I googled "entitlement" in relation to Australia and it seems "entitlement" is another word for health care.

So really, all this lady is saying is that "Taking away Health Care sticks."
 
It was a bit scary to be there in the midst of everything and not knowing what was going on. We thought there was an accident at the park. Anyway, I started a new thread on this, I just wanted to give my perspective since we happened to be driving down Harbor when it all took place....
 












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