2027 Points Charts Predictions

[Leight19]

My view is they should have never been classified as TPV in the first place - especially in a resort with an extremely aggressive points chart. And, the way they fixed the problem was by raising other room prices even more…

In my opinion when they downgrade a view Disney or whatever the subsidiary that sells dvc is called should be required to buy those points back to effectively subsidize the rooms to new point chart. They sold a theme park view that doesn’t and never existed; that’s definition of fraudulent misrepresentation as far as I’m concerned and I see no reason to expect the membership picks up the burden of that fraud.

 

[Cfabar1]

In my opinion when they downgrade a view Disney or whatever the subsidiary that sells dvc is called should be required to buy those points back to effectively subsidize the rooms to new point chart. They sold a theme park view that doesn’t and never existed; that’s definition of fraudulent misrepresentation as far as I’m concerned and I see no reason to expect the membership picks up the burden of that fraud.

Exactly, and since the entire resort isn’t declared, they could make some modifications.

 

[Sandisw]

Oh I see, so by downgrading the ones that should have never been labeled that in the first place, the others went up, sounds shady to me

From what has been shared with me in the past, is that these decisions are made when the resort is still in drawings…and that until the building is actually up and stayed in, they may get different information.

Now, it would seem that they would have had plenty of time to adjust those rooms before starting sales…but they didn’t.

The good news though is that they fixed them before all units were declared…which is why they have the flexibility they do right now.

It does not explain the longhouses and that is going to come down to the whole debate about what counts as unit neutrality when it comes to balancing the charts for stays vs sales.

I believe there are PVB owners who have contracted DVCMC to get an explanation.

Hopefully we will get DVCMCs take within the next few months.

 

[Sandisw]

Exactly, and since the entire resort isn’t declared, they could make some modifications.

Which is why those rooms can be changed because those specific rooms are part of units that were not declared officially into the association…assuming I read the delegations drawings correctly! Lol

They were rooms that they decided would be TPV once officially part of the association.

Because cash guests and DVC guests can be put in any room in the building…declared or not…that is how they ended up in those rooms.

 

[Girlstar30]

From what has been shared with me in the past, is that these decisions are made when the resort is still in drawings…and that until the building is actually up and stayed in, they may get different information.

Now, it would seem that they would have had plenty of time to adjust those rooms before starting sales…but they didn’t.

The good news though is that they fixed them before all units were declared…which is why they have the flexibility they do right now.

It does not explain the longhouses and that is going to come down to the whole debate about what counts as unit neutrality when it comes to balancing the charts for stays vs sales.

I believe there are PVB owners who have contracted DVCMC to get an explanation.

Hopefully we will get DVCMCs take within the next few months.

So when other rooms are declared, these excess points will be balanced out appropriately and the inflation of the rooms because of this mistake is only temporary?

 

[Tatebeck]

So when other rooms are declared, these excess points will be balanced out appropriately and the inflation of the rooms because of this mistake is only temporary?

No, it does not seem like it will be temporary.

The reduced number of theme park view rooms vs what they expected to have means that they had to increase the point cost of the resort and preferred view rooms slightly to make up the difference and make the average cost of a room stay the same (and to make the resort still have the same number of total points).

They could have just increased the remaining theme park view rooms even further I suppose, but they didn't want to do that, probably because most feel those are already the most overpriced rooms.

 

[Sandisw]

So when other rooms are declared, these excess points will be balanced out appropriately and the inflation of the rooms because of this mistake is only temporary?

No, those adjustments will stay.

Where they will now adjust is the number of points assigned to units that have not yet been declared into the association that actually includes rooms they were planning to consider TPV.

 

[Girlstar30]

No, it does not seem like it will be temporary.

The reduced number of theme park view rooms vs what they expected to have means that they had to increase the point cost of the resort and preferred view rooms slightly to make up the difference and make the average cost of a room stay the same (and to make the resort still have the same number of total points).

They could have just increased the theme park view rooms even further I suppose, but they didn't want to do that, probably because most feel those are already the most overpriced rooms.

Oh wow, thank you, the lightbulb has finally clicked and now I see why people are mad because why spread this mess to the longhouses when PIT was an afterthought to begin with.

They cant just change the number of points they are going to sell? As someone who's interested in purchasing Poly, this makes me upset as well. It is already hard to swallow the points chart and now its going up, yikes.

 

[Tatebeck]

Oh wow, thank you, the lightbulb has finally clicked and now I see why people are mad because why spread this mess to the longhouses when PIT was an afterthought to begin with.

They cant just change the number of points they are going to sell? As someone who's interested in purchasing Poly, this makes me upset as well. It is already hard to swallow the points chart and now its going up, yikes.

I think technically they could just choose to sell less points and keep the lower point cost for the rooms, but they apparently have chosen not to. Probably because DVC's number 1 priority is of course to make money for the company, and they felt it was better to pass off the costs to the other owners instead of take the loss themselves.