1B at OKW or 1B at BWV?

If we choose to answer a question about OKW with a comparison to "other Deluxe Resorts" lets at least be complete with our comparison. Lets include all Deluxe Resorts in our comments instead of conveniently omitting one. Lets include all of DD in our comparison instead of just praising the nighttime options on the BW.
Sorry, I will try to be as correct as possible:
With the exception of AKL, ALL other WDW deluxe resorts and home away from home resorts are located closer and with much more convenient access to at least one major park and in the case of the Epcot resorts, 2 out of 4 major parks and their nighttime entertainment. These resorts also offer a wide variety of choices at some of WDW best restaurants and also offer some limited choices of adult clubs at the boardwalk and of course the boardwalk entertainment at night, mini golf, etc which is suitable for all family members.
OKW and the value and moderate resorts although not as close or convenient to the major parks, are located much closer with easier access to DTD/PI which provides shopping, restaurants, adult clubs, movie complex, Disney Quest and cirque de soleil.
The pools at all the deluxe resorts and the moderate resorts are themed and have a water slide, the pools at the value resorts and OKW do not.
All the deluxe resorts and the home away from home resorts offer full deluxe resorts amenities which includes room service, conceirge service, valet parking, turn down service, etc. OKW and FW cabins are the 2 exceptions to this.
OKW has the largest 1 BR villa out of all the DVC resorts on WDW property.
I did not conveniently omit anything, I am sorry for any error I may have made in my comparison, I sincerely hope this comparison is more acceptable. :rolleyes:
 
I think it is time to DROP THIS!!! The OP has the answer to her question about OKW, no thanks to some folks here.
 
C'mon, its fun. I enjoy these repartees. I really believe that 99.9% of the people who read MY posts see no anger or ill will at all and take them in the jocular manner that I intend. I think the best parts of the humor I try to invoke are the responses from others.

The original poster's questions may be answered, but let's not drop it yet!!!!!
 
C'mon, its fun. I enjoy these repartees. I really believe that 99.9% of the people who read MY posts see no anger or ill will at all and take them in the jocular manner that I intend. I think the best parts of the humor I try to invoke are the responses from others.
You are right it is just all in fun and it is all just humor and of course you do not mean a word you say when you bash all the resorts except OKW, you do not mean anger or ill will at all.
Neither do I mean any anger or ill will and it is all about humor and being funny when I say OKW is the cut rate/value resort version of a DVC resort, that it can not even be compared to a moderate resort since it does not have the same level of resort amenities available to it's guests as a moderate resort does. It is all just in humor and fun!! :jester:
 

Originally posted by DeeP
You are right it is just all in fun and it is all just humor and of course you do not mean a word you say when you bash all the resorts except OKW, you do not mean anger or ill will at all.
Neither do I mean any anger or ill will and it is all about humor and being funny when I say OKW is the cut rate/value resort version of a DVC resort, that it can not even be compared to a moderate resort since it does not have the same level of resort amenities available to it's guests as a moderate resort does. It is all just in humor and fun!! :jester:

I am sorry, but I DO NOT see the humor and fun in this quote...:( :( :( :( :( :( :(
 
I am sorry, but I DO NOT see the humor and fun in this quote...
Oh, but why not????? After all, all the downgrading comments made about the DVC resorts are just in fun and humor, with no anger or ill will intended and are meant to be taken in a jocular manner. Just ask Mr. Yams!
 
Originally posted by DeeP
Oh, but why not????? After all, all the downgrading comments made about the DVC resorts are just in fun and humor, with no anger or ill will intended and are meant to be taken in a jocular manner. Just ask Mr. Yams!

Deep,
Most posters on this board laugh when they see Rich's post, and take it with a grain of salt. But for some reason you take it personal. You have to learn to 'lighten up' a little, and not take it personal.
I am sure there are a lot of lurkers and posters on this board who get a "kick" out of Rich's posts.:p
 
ncligs,
You and I have sort of touched on this subject in the past, and as I have said before, while some, maybe even many, may find Mr. Yams post funny--many DO NOT. Remember his self posted poll and the results regarding this same topic a couple of years back?? I honestly do not believe for a minute it is all joking, and I also know so do many others because I have received many unsolicited PMs over the years from fellow posters telling me so.
What I do not understand is why statements that outright downgrade a resort, grossly exagerate facts regarding the resort , etc., etc are considered funny AS long as these "little, funny, posts" are about any DVC OTHER than OKW, but if some one downgrades or makes a exagerrated statement about OKW, it is a different story and they need to lighten up?
I was a teacher for many years and I am sorry but I can't stand the whole bully, opinanted, trouble starting personality, etc and I am also a person who will speak up when someone is talking BS. I guess it is just the teacher and the parent in me.
I don't take things personally I just can't stand outright BS, like the many, many ad nausaum statements he posts.
 
This is what happens when you have to spend your week at WDW cramped up in a tiny unit, have your legs almost falling off in objection to the last mile to your room, all while dealing with high dues and point schedules, I understand and empathize with you.

Calm down and feel the joy!!!!
 
Originally posted by DeeP
I was a teacher for many years........ and I am also a person who will speak up when someone is talking BS. I guess it is just the teacher and the parent in me.

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Since this is a short trip would OKW be too out of the way?

For my money, yes, especially if Epcot and MGM are your primary destinations. I find the bus service at OKW very frustrating and prefer the walk/boat back from the parks.

Are the rooms larger at OKW?

Yes, but most of the extra 300 sq ft of room is in the two hallways and the laundry room. If that is where you spend your time you will like it. The deck is larger, so if you spend a lot of time there you will like it. And the layout is different.

How is the pool there?

If you like quiet pools they are OK but far away from most of the villas. Pools at BW are a shorter walk and more fun if you like slides and I have never found them to be crowded.
 
Originally posted by kathleena
Yes, but most of the extra 300 sq ft of room is in the two hallways and the laundry room. If that is where you spend your time you will like it.

I have to respectfully disagree with you here. The majority of the additional 300+ square feet are located in the kitchen/dining/living area at OKW.. Yes there is a hallway and laundry room that BWV/VWL/BCV don't have, but most of that extra space is in in the living area. OKW has a substantially larger kitchen, a full sized 'kitchen' table with seats for 4 but room for 6 as well as a sofa and a loveseat. The patio/balcony aren't even counted in the square footage totals..

In fact this very subject came up at one of those morning member meetings when we were at OKW in June. The Sales Rep/Speaker was asked about the size of the units. She repeated what has been said here.. There will probably never be another DVC with the size of OKW. She said the planners cut back on the kitchen size because in 'member surveys' they found that people didn't use their kitchen and didn't need the space. Why they cut back on the living room space wasn't explained, but I am sure it saved Disney $$$ by cutting out 300+ square feet of building
 
The Sales Rep/Speaker was asked about the size of the units. She repeated what has been said here.. There will probably never be another DVC with the size of OKW. She said the planners cut back on the kitchen size because in 'member surveys' they found that people didn't use their kitchen and didn't need the space. Why they cut back on the living room space wasn't explained, but I am sure it saved Disney $$$ by cutting out 300+ square feet of building
I do not believe that baloney about people not using the kitchens so therefore did not need the space. Disney figured out how by making the units smaller they could fit more villas per building so therefore they would have more contracts to sell and therefore make more money. I love Disney very much but as with all things Disney, including DVC, it is often about the bottom line when it comes to Disney.
 
I think some of you need to get a grip on life here. I would guess that most of you are affluent people. So maybe you shouldn't worry so much about who stays where and likes what and just be glad you have the time and money to enjoy such a great place. If you like it, then who cares what other people think! I just wanted some basic info. Thank you to the posters who gave it to me. Now I'll get back to my 7 and 9 year olds who sound a lot like some of you on this board..."my transformer is better than your transformer!"

(This should invoke some more posts!!)
 
Don't forget that at BWV (and BCV and VWL), some interior space from the rooms was sacrificed to provide the interior hallways for the resort itself. These also need to be air conditioned, heated and cleaned.

Prior to the design/construction of the resorts that followed OKW, extensive interviews were conducted to find how members were using the villas.

One point made evident was that most did not feel the need for some of the space in the living room/dining room/kitchen area. While that has been described as cutting back "because in 'member surveys' they found that people didn't use their kitchen and didn't need the space", the real assessment was that less space could still work for the majority of guests and probably had nothign to do with the actual size of the kitchen.

If you really evaluate the size of the "kitchen" itself, there is little difference in the space at any DVC 1BR or larger villa. The main difference is in the living room/dining area at OKW. There is room for the full coach, love seat and chair plus the larger table and storage counter behind.

I suspect if someone were to measure the hallway space outside their villa at BWV, they would "find" most of the square footage difference in the OKW rooms. BWV Studios might even be proportionally larger.

HH has a similar situation- no interior hallways (except for the few rooms in the lodge) and the livingroom/dining room/kitchen is still a little smaller than at OKW with the same basic layout. There is no love seat in the living room there either.

There are no buildings at OKW further than a few hundred feet from a pool. Most are no further than the distance from a room to the pool at any of the other DVC resorts.

Some guests don't like public transportation regardless how it's presented and will avoid using buses at any resort. (I enjoy the buses at OKW and ALWAYS use them- even when I have a car- that's just my preference). We walk to DD and back every morning when at OKW. If I'm at BWV or BCV, I do enjoy being able to walk to 2 parks- but find the walk to MGM (over a mile) to be a little unpleasant in temperatures above 90º with high humidity and thunderstorms. The boat is just another form of public transportation and is no better/worse than the buses in my experience. We'll use the boat if it's too warm/humid/rainy to enjoy a walk. Some will probably never walk to either MGM or EPCOT, for physical or personal reasons- even though they are staying one of the nearby resorts.

Having stayed at every DVC Resort, it's pretty easy to find far more positives about each one than negatives. I can easily recommend every one to anyone who asks me and can create a list of resaons why they'll enjoy any specific resort. In my experience, the differences in the resorts are far smaller than the impression often given on this forum. It's great to have such passionate enthusiasm about something but wonder how much better might it be if we could express that enthusiasm without denigrating the experiences of others?


...what's a "transformer" anyway??? :smooth:
 
ColoradoDisneyFan,
That is why the ignore list is so nice to use. You don't have to read the same old bashing from the same old bashers.
 
Doc, with that Grandchild of yours, you need to figure out about the Transformer thing. Even my DD was into them for a bit....
:rolleyes:
 















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