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[C.Ann]

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[Hedy]

I'm sorry you have to witness this. Poor DGD (esp. given how much she cares for FIL).

 

[agnes!]

Yikes...this guy doesn't sound like a Scrooge, he just sounds like a JERK.

I can understand not being in the Christmas spirit, I'm kind of that way myeslf, but to absolutely FORBID another family-member from putting up Christmas decorations?!? I JUST don't get it, what is this JERK's problem?

He has every right to be a JERK in HIS house but if he acts up in yours?...oh, Katie bar the door, there would be H*LL to pay if he were visiting my home(nevermind what DD might say/do).
Actually, if your DSonIL is on board, HE should be the one to take HIS dad on. You live with them don't you? I think any adult who lives at that house would be well within their rights to mention the possibility of D(not dear is it?)FIL's bad behavior to the SIL before the occasion...if he's willing to take D*** Ol' Dad on...let him. ("Dad, I love you, but if you can't behave, please leave".)
After all, D***FIL is the one who is being mean to the son's own child.

Good luck,
agnes!
PS - Btw, your DD sounds like a wonderful person. She's being kinder to her MIL than the woman's own HUSBAND.
Good for her, to take that tree over.

 

[kejoda]

Sounds like my FIL. I don't think your DD overstep her boundries. She did something nice THAT HE SHOULD OF DONE for her dd and MIL.

 

[Todd&Copper]

What the heck happened to him to make him hate Xmas so much? Did Santa die in his chimney? Reindeer leave poop on his roof? What a horrible situation!
He needs therapy for this b/c he is completely unreasonable. Good for your DD for telling him to cut the humbug around DGD. I hope the tree doesn't start a war, though.

 

[C.Ann]

Yikes...this guy doesn't sound like a Scrooge, he just sounds like a JERK.

I can undertans not being in the Christmas spirit, I'm kind of that way myeslf, but to absolutely FORBID another family-member from putting up Christmas decorations?!? I JUST don't get it, what is this JERK's problem?

He has every right to be a JERK in HIS house but if he acts up in yours?...oh, Katie bar the door, there would be H*LL to pay if he were visiting my home(nevermind what DD might say/do).
Actually, if your DSonIL is on board, HE should be the one to take HIS dad on. You, as the homeowner/host, would be well within your rights to mention the possibility of D(not dear is it?)FIL's bad behavior to the SIL before the occasion...if he's willing to take D*** Ol' Dad on...let him.
After all, D***FIL is the one who is being mean to the son's child.

Good luck,
agnes!


agnes!

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I acutally spoke to my SIL about this last night - and asked him if he knew why his Dad was like this (he said no) and asked him if he thought it was fair for his Dad to put such demands on his Mom during the holidays (to which he also said no).. I don't know if he'll speak to him or not, but he did say that he knew if he tried to pull that with my DD, he would be spending the holidays in the basement.. LOL

 

[icebrat001]

My brother was murdered when I was 7 and he was buried the day after christmas, after that my mother didn't give a flying hoot about christmas or putting up a christmas tree or anything.

Just because people are unhappy and going through stuff doesn't mean that have to put everyone down.

I feel bad for your dgd.

 

[GoofyBaseballMom26]

Oh my, that is so sad for everyone involved. Makes you wonder why he dislikes it so much???

I was purchasing a gift for my sister the other day, (a $40 scarf that was beautiful!!!!) and this lady behind me said "I can't believe that cost so much... you must really love your sister" in a snide manner (I had just told the clerk it was for her). I kinda laughed and said "Well this is something I think she will really like and wouldn't buy for herself" She made some other comment about buying extravagent gifts and that she always buys practical gifts even for her grandchildren... that "they get enough of that other crap, I buy them clothes" I thought her whole attitude was pitiful and I felt so sorry for her and her family!!!! The store clerk and I just looked at each other and told each other "Merry Christmas" and I left. The more I think about it the sadder it makes me.. I bet she's a joy to be around during the whole Christmas season. Even if you can't buy a lot of gifts or expensive ones there is so much more to Christmas and it can be magical if you are determined to make it so. A perfect time to remember all that you have to be thankful for.

I hope one day that lady and the FIL you mentioned find some joy in the season.

 

[jrmasm]

No one can use you as a doormat unless you allow it.

 

[beck0321]

Seriously? This is ridiculous. I couldn't live with a man who forbade me to do anything. F that!

 

[jekajekalynn]

What the heck happened to him to make him hate Xmas so much? Did Santa die in his chimney? Reindeer leave poop on his roof?

Thanks for my first laugh this morning.

 

[C.Ann]

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[C.Ann]

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[C.Ann]

Seriously? This is ridiculous. I couldn't live with a man who forbade me to do anything. F that!

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LOL.. My feelings EXACTLY!!!

 

[jrmasm]

but isn't this the same woman that went behind her son's back to buy forbidden toys? Clearly she doesn't have a problem with "defiance".

 

[JunieJay]

I couldn't imagine being married to someone like that. I'm a glass is half full kind of person pretty much always, and would need a spouse who is the same way. We ALL love Christmas around my house, and while some (errr, me) are a little more exhuberant about it than others (errr, DH), I can't imagine anyone spoiling the fun in such a way. I'm sorry for your dd's MIL.

 

[C.Ann]

but isn't this the same woman that went behind her son's back to buy forbidden toys? Clearly she doesn't have a problem with "defiance".

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Yes it is - but her son is not viewed as an "authority" figure by her - as is her DH, her brother's and her late father..

 

[tgmousechick]

Goodness! I hope DD's FIL manages to behave himself!

My DH is not a huge fan of Christmas- it's just not his thing, and apparently his mother would run the guilt trip if a big deal wasn't made out of decorating the tree, etc. No good reason, it's just not his schtick.

However, he's sensitive enough to know that I love it, so he would never do anything to sabotage things. I try to be equally sensitive, so I don't insist that he take part in grand rituals (decorating the tree, cookies-a-rama weekend, the 18th playing of White Christmas, etc). However, DD really GETS it this year (she's 4), and she's out of her mind excited, and I think it's rubbing off on DH.

 

[NMAmy]

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This is SO true - and both DD and I have spoken to the MIL about it.. However, you have to realize that she is in her 60's - and was raised in a VERY strict Greek household where the women were basically treated as slaves and anything that the father OR brothers demanded, you had to adhere to - or else.. She's very, very timid when it comes to men and actually confided to me over the summer that her father was physically abusive to her mother - and when her father wasn't around, she was to do whatever her brothers TOLD her to do - no questions asked.. I don't think she has ever recovered from her childhood..

That is so sad. I'm glad your dd stuck up for her.

I'm having a hard time imagining DH forbidding me from doing anything.

 

[luvwinnie]

wow, did something traumatic happen to him on Christmas or something?