12 year old girl dies after collapsing at typhoon lagoon

[raidermatt]

...But I think we're on the same page.

Good, because sometimes I feel like nobody else is even in the same book as me.

 

[disney1972]

I agree with you Frozen Tundra.. I think more attention is paid to anything happening on Disney property. I was told years ago, and it may be rumor or may be truth, that it was Disney policy to not pronounce anyone dead until they were off of Disney grounds, therefore nobody died "on" Disney grounds. I have been going to Disney since the gates opened and will continue to go regardless. I think this is definitely blown up and big news because it is Disney. It would not make world news if it was the carnival down the street!

 

[jlima]

I was told years ago, and it may be rumor or may be truth, that it was Disney policy to not pronounce anyone dead until they were off of Disney grounds, therefore nobody died "on" Disney grounds.

I would want to be declared dead in a hospital AFTER a medical professional trained to do so tried EVERYTHING they could to revive me . . . not in an amusement park by a CM who just took a CPR class 3 weeks earlier.

 

[disney1972]

Many people are pronounced dead on the scene of an accident. Being a healthcare worker for 15 years many patients of mine were pronounced dead before they reach the hospital. It is not Disney's staff who pronounces anyone dead but the medical professionals who arrive on the scene. I was just stating that may be a reason for an increase and said that it may have been a rumor...

 

[mitros]

Yay! the debate board is back!....isn't it?

 

[HUFF590]

Im the only real Disney fan where I work, everyone there knows Im crazy about Disney, and when they here these stories they cant seem to wait to come tell me about it, like see I told you so Disney is hurting people why do you go? I would never go and take my kids. I feel terrible about what happened and for those families, but sometimes it does seem everyone wants to put Disney down.

 

[Saxsoon]

It's weird, my family always misses that stuff by just a bit. we were on a cruise, and a week later, half the ship was sick with food poisoning. And we went to Disney a week before the thunder mountain accident. we were at epcot the day of SPACE Accident. Heck, we were in D.C. a week before september 11. I do have to admit, that a lot of stuff has been happening lately, but when you think of it, it has a higher chance of people dieing, simply because of the increased numbers. You don't see it as much at other parks because of the smaller size. I do have to agree with frozentundra though because it does seem to be blown out of proportion ( with reason though) because it is the most succesful theme park and resort in history. Hopefully this will be the last time we hear this

 

[Peter Pirate]

Local Fox news (Miami) led tonight with "Another death at Disney World...Again a Child" ... How disgustingly sensational!

It's obvious that this had nothing to do with WDW but still the story is 'sexier' with Disney in the name.

I'm all for reporting of the Cal. Screamin accident or the deaths on GTMRR at DL, but sometimes it gets to be too much.

I would want to be declared dead in a hospital...

Personally, I'd prefer to NOT to be declared dead...

 

[SoCalKDG]

The situations aren't even close. Somebody about to pass from cancer isn't likely to be on a trip to WDW.

Then we have the California Screamin' accident from last week, and the news that Disney changed the braking system earlier this year without consulting the manufacturer, Intamin. Of course, Disney's position is that they themselves are the manufacturer, and Intamin is a subcontractor, but still, many industry insiders are expressing surprise at Disney's policy.

I'd be at WDW if I didn't have much time left. Why not. I'll have a great time, and if I pass away, I'll know millions will read about me.

Where did you get the info on Screamin? Everything I've read is pointing to software error.

 

[marypops!]

3 deaths and a heart attack (i think) this year also i nearly fainted after riding soarin'
(but let's get back to this....)

 

[ChrisLei]

I think it is only because it is ON Disney property. Say these 3 incidents happened in neighboring town Kissimmee. It would be a not so noticable blip in the radar.

I agree with a previous poster: Hot weather, larger crowds, and also people not being too careful with themselves in this situation lead to the last 2 incidents. That said, drink LOTS AND LOTS of fluids if you are there in this massive heat. Our body needs it to keep every organ operating at top form!

 

[disney1972]

There are plenty accidents listed from multiple theme parks on themeparkinsider. com

Pretty interesting to see. Things happen.

We will be at Disney next month and will still go on all the rides. I guess if it is my time to go then it is my time to go, not too much I can do about it!!

 

[GrimGhost]

Nope that's not what I am telling you. That is what you are choosing to to read....

Perhaps we have moved past this point in the thread, but I took the point the same way you did.

 

[GrimGhost]

Good, because sometimes I feel like nobody else is even in the same book as me.

Matt, I am often atleast in the same chapter you're in....or on the page.

 

[weeyore33]

I think Frozentundra is correct. Disney is like a city, but not only that they have new residents every day, so the fact that there are not more fatalities or accidents shows how safe it is there, stuff can happen anywhere, look at that fair in new york where the cable broke, or kids dying on football fields, or baseball fields, it is unfortunate that people have to get sick or die, and it is unfortunate that the media thinks disney has control over some of these.

stay hydrated and try to get into disney vacation shape before going
we walk and have our kids walk so they are not shocked when we get there

i feel terrible for these families, my heart goes out to them

 

[raidermatt]

Where did you get the info on Screamin? Everything I've read is pointing to software error.

Orange County Register

Note that this is not saying the changes were the cause, only pointing out the fact that they were changed. Certainly Intamin is engaging in a little CYA, but still, consulting with the manufacturer seems to be a fairly standard practice. If nothing else, Disney could have done its own CYA by consulting with Intamin when the changes were done.

I know Disney claims they are the manufacturer, but at best its a grey area, and why not err on the side of safety?

But again, as far as I know, the actual cause has not yet been determined.

 

[mark&sue]

These stories are reported here in the UK too. There does seem to be a lot of really tragic news involving young people these past few months. The accident in Disneyland was on the BBC news TV station while I was watching to hear of the London bombing news so it is international news.



Susan

 

[SoCalKDG]

Orange County Register

Note that this is not saying the changes were the cause, only pointing out the fact that they were changed. Certainly Intamin is engaging in a little CYA, but still, consulting with the manufacturer seems to be a fairly standard practice. If nothing else, Disney could have done its own CYA by consulting with Intamin when the changes were done.

I know Disney claims they are the manufacturer, but at best its a grey area, and why not err on the side of safety?

But again, as far as I know, the actual cause has not yet been determined.

Thanks. Interesting to note that the modifications were found to be safe by state investigators during a June 2 inspection.

At our company we have some parts where one company makes the metal part of it, another company makes the rubber part, while all we do is inspect it, repackage it, and ship it out; but were are still considered the mfg. of it.

Still think its a software issue. I was under the impression that the train did stop, but was then released out of its current zone.

 

[k5thbeatle]

WDW is basically a city the size of San Fran with a few hundred thousand people on property at any given time. How many deaths were reported in your hometown last year ?

Precisely! SUre it is sad when someone dies, especially so young, but it can and does happen...without anyone necessarily being at fault.

 

[PirateGirl]

I've been taking my family to Disney many times over the last 15 years from when the kids were babies right up to their teens, taking care with hydration & pace is VERY important! But even here in rainy old England we have our fair share of theme park fatalities. I feel awful for those families but you have to keep things in perspective. To be honest if I have to go I'd rather snuff it in a sunny Florida theme park than a hospital bed!