Good point. I think we'd eat at EPCOT more in the evenings on those days when we don't do the parks all day.Originally posted by dvc_john
Well, they WOULD make more money from me if they gave us the Florida resident discount.
I buy an AP one year, and then don't go to the parks the next year. I was there in May without an AP, and didn't go to any Disney parks. Went to Seaworld and a water park. If we got the Florida discount, I'd keep my AP active all the time, and go to the parks every trip. And I'd spend money in the parks every trip.
This was true at one time, but not anymore. Disney is a big company and the divisions that are having problems cannot figure out what the customers want. Look at the ABC TV. They can't place a primetime show in the top 10 (unless it's football season). They killed Who Wants To Be A Millionaire through overexposure.IMHO, Disney has some of the best "data gatherers" and data analysts in corporate America.
Originally posted by Blake
A lot of folks like to point out that when we bought DVC we only bought vacation accomadations, not special perks or privileges. Now Disney has to realize that they only sold us vacation accomadations, not an agreement to spend additional money only at Disney. The company should be actively competing for our vacation dollars. If they did, I would think most of us would be more than willing to spend "at home".
Wouldn't Disney make more money if they gave DVCers the Florida resident discount on Annual Passes?
Originally posted by Blake
This was true at one time, but not anymore. Disney is a big company and the divisions that are having problems cannot figure out what the customers want. Look at the ABC TV. They can't place a primetime show in the top 10 (unless it's football season). They killed Who Wants To Be A Millionaire through overexposure.
I think the same is true for the parks. These analysts may have a lot or raw data, but they seem more interested in validating their pre-conceived notions than find out what would be mutually beneficial to the company and the public. Read the threads on the focus groups. They seem to be making decisions as if it was still 1980 when Disney had a monopoly on Orlando area entertainment.
A lot of folks like to point out that when we bought DVC we only bought vacation accomadations, not special perks or privileges. Now Disney has to realize that they only sold us vacation accomadations, not an agreement to spend additional money only at Disney. The company should be actively competing for our vacation dollars. If they did, I would think most of us would be more than willing to spend "at home".
I agree very much with what most of Blake said to this. The most valid part is to point out that Disney is an entity now that is split up into many different divisions. The division that deals with park tickets, it's arguable as to whether they would actually make more money. Personally I think they would, but until someone has the testicular fortitude to try it we'll never know. Where I'm certain Disney as a whole would increase revenue is that many people, like me, would visit a themepark for 3 or 4 hours eat a meal, shop a little and buy a few drinks. Maybe spend in the region of $80-100 a day X 15to 20 days a year that's in the region of $1,500-2,000 that I don't spend at Disney. From the evidence on this board I would suggest there are many DVC members like me that would visit the parks more if they had a better break. My most recent visit I went to one Disney park in 8 days on site, I spent most of what I saved by treating myself to 2 days at the Portifino Bay Hotel at Universal ( $400 ) park tix ( $150) , meals ( $450) and drinks $100. The point is that the divisions in Disney that would certainly make more money, are not the divisions that issue the tickets. IMHO that is the #1 reason why you don't see a decent deal. It has nothing to do with what I see as a "win win situation" and everything to do with the internal squabbles that go on within Disney. All the divisions are scared to make a move that they know would be successful over all for the company, but worry they are giving a rival division a "free leg up" while they incur a cost themselves.IMHO, Disney has some of the best "data gatherers" and data analysts in corporate America. If they thought they would make more $$ by offering DVC members admission discounts, it would already be done.
To a degree you're making my point, just I would venture that it's very possible that playing golf $$$ could go "off site" , as could horse riding and a nice diner. Maybe 30% or more of that spending you mention could go off site as people have the time to travel for better/different deals. Whereas with a better deal on park tickets it is more likely that the convenience of on site golf,riding,dining would mean people spending a couple of hours in the parks ( before or after those activities) wouldn't want to waste the time it takes to drive to off site facilities.We don't actually spend that much money in the parks. We don't snack our way through, we don't buy any more souvieniers if we spend an extra day there. In some ways, we are MORE likely to spend money on the "non-park" days - playing golf, renting watermice, going horseback riding, putting the kids in kids clubs and going out to a nice dinner.