The line cutting and shoving condundrum...

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  1. tweak89

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    Reading many of the trip reports It seems that just about every one of them mentions the behavior of patrons while in line (cutting, shoving etc.) for rides.

    The other common thing is that almost no one seems to say anything to those that are cutting or shoving their way into line. I'm not one to tolerate those things at the theme parks I have visited, and policies do exist, so why do folks put up with it?
     
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  3. DLPdaft

    DLPdaft <font color=royalblue>Cannot stop singing "Just li Moderator

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    Its not something i,ve experienced a lot of at dlp. on the very rare occasion its been attempted around me it seems to be children and i have no problem at all in tapping them on the shoulder and saying ‘wait‘.
     
  4. Baliezer

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    I think part of it maybe a cultural thing as well. I know when we go to Europe, it takes me a couple of days to get used to not having the imaginary box around me, like we do in America. I thought it was rude and people were running into us on purpose. I learned not to take it personally. Also leaving any inch of space between you and the person in front of you in line, is an invitation to cut.
     
  5. Jonjo

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    I don't stand for it myself and with DW and I being a bit on the wide side it's quite hard for someone to cut past us in lines, they are not very wide in France. If anyone tries I just put my hand on the handrail so they can't pass.

    I also leave a bit of space infront of us to give us plenty of personal space between us and the people in front. If anyone tries to push us forwards a few choice words in their direction usualy helps. I have always found the words 'Do that again and I'll call a Cast Member and get you thrown out of the park' works wonders with stroppy teenagers.

    And DW is never afraid to ask someone to Stop Smoking!. She did it twice on our last trip, once inside Studio 1 in WDS and again in the line for BTM in DLP. Pointing to the sign and saying 'Ne pas fumer s'il vous plaît' works well.

    We also mainly go the the parks during the quiet season so the parks are quieter anyway.

    I do remember the tricks some families used to use where they would send a small child ahead to run through the line and then 'chase after them'. After spotting this one once or twice on previouse trips we soon became wise to it and DW would stop the child from running past us and I would start calling for a CM to report the lost child. By the time a CM got to us the family would arrive and the CM would escort them and their small child to the back of the line.

    I guess most people don't say anything because they don't want to start a confrontation especialy while they are away on holiday in foreign land where you don't speak the language very well.
     
  6. Christieand

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    I wish this wasn't true but for me it is. I would rather leave them to it than risk an awful attempt at speaking French and/or embarrassing myself in English anyway. For me it's just not worth the confrontation, though if I was braver I would definitely say something.
     
  7. Gertie100

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    I remember having a wonderful "conversation" with a very annoyed chap who took particular offence to having to queue for literally 5 mins to get in for EMH.
    I started by turning around and firmly saying NO!
    By the end of the queue we were bestest friends.

    I also remember sending my then 5 year old to get a drink from a cart where there was only a few people waiting. 15 mins later I decided I had to get involved and literally pushed my way through a pile of kids in order to get to my girl and lift her up to be served.

    I wouldn't say I enjoy it at all, but it is definitely part of the holiday for me.
    But then I am a gobby bird anyway!!!
     
  8. JohnnySharp2

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    We get an easy access pass with Joshua's disabilities so hence probably don't see as much of this as others.
    However, you can get rude people anywhere and it's natural the more people around the more likely it is to encounter some.
    I see some every weekend at our local supermarket!

    If I need to have a word with someone I will - but we tend to wrap ourselves in a little bubble and just concentrate on the good things and having a good time.
     
  9. Ware Bears

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    ::yes::

    I also don't understand why this is always made out to be so much more of an issue at DLP as opposed to the US parks. Whilst I think we're all in agreement that the random character meets are terrible and to be avoided like the plague (not to be confused with orderly meet'n'greets) I can honestly say hand on heart that I've encountered just as much rudeness and line cutting/queue jumping/parade pushing at WDW as I have at DLP - and thankfully I've not encountered a great deal at either resort - certainly never enough to get het up about it.
     
  10. moorhunhe

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    On my last trip I even experienced line cutting at the ticket booths!
    It bothered me beyond believes ...

    A couple standing 20 people behind us in line, which were actually next to us in line, because of the line going curves when waiting to buy tickets.
    They just started to talk to the couple in front of us (which were basicly next to them, but the gate was in between) (4 people were in front of us, and it took like 30 minutes before it was even our turn to buy 1 ticket).

    They asked the couple in front of us what tickets they were getting, and they offered them the bring-a-friend ticket, if they could come and stand with them.

    So they cut off about 20 other people behind us who were also waiting to buy tickets.
    So, if everyone is going to do this now, and end up in front of you, you can stand there for hours to just buy a ticket o_O
    (it already took about 30 minutes that time when there were only 4 in front of us)
     
  11. markpsych

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    Likewise, have been a frequent visitor over the last 10 years, and rarely experienced it :confused3
     
  12. JohnnySharp2

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    ::yes::

    Agreed, I was carrying Joshua inside the Disney Store at Downtown Disney WDW when he was 10 months old (just like the picture below!), when this bloke knocked into me almost trying to knock us out of the way.....you get rude people everywhere.
     
  13. tweak89

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    Good feedback. As a frequenter of WDW I can say that we've never encountered any line cutters. I only asked as just about any review or article (even my DLP guide book) mentions the "different" attitude of the DLP visitors compared to the other Disney parks. I expect the lack of personal space, but that's something entirely different from jumping the line.

    I'll be doing my best to take it in stride.
     
  14. Jazzy B Bunny

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    I've never been to DLP, but I have no time for queue jumpers and shovers.... I will make my thoughts known and will do something about it. Not in a violent way, but I don't take any cr*p from anyone...
     
  15. moorhunhe

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    I'm totally looking forward to experience this with you, haha :rotfl2:

    j/k ;)
     
  16. Jazzy B Bunny

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    My friend hate confrontation, she sort of shys away in the background haha. I'm making myself sound like a right cow. I'm really not, I just hate rude people!
     
  17. moorhunhe

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    I'm too shy too for something like that.
    However, I will say something to the person who's with me "loud enough" so the other person could hear me, lol, but since being at DLRP 99 % chance that person doesn't speak my language, it doesn't matter much, lol.
     
  18. Jazzy B Bunny

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    I only speak English, but know a few choice words in French lol
     
  19. moorhunhe

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    I actually do that a lot when being at the grocery store, when the people in front of me at the cash register isn't moving the cart far enough so I can put my stuff on the spot.

    Or when someone is blocking an isle at the store -_-
    Lol.
     
  20. DLPdaft

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    tweak89 you mention in your initial post the behaviour of guests when they are already in queue lines at DLP. cutting, shoving. As I said I have only seen young kids try to cut, and I just tell them to wait while not allowing them to pass me.

    I've not had anyone shove me while I've been in a ride queue, ever. There is a big difference between someone shoving you and someone with little regard to personal space (twice in the regular queue line for BTM over the years at DLP I've had people behind me so close that they were practically hugging my back :rotfl:, but thats not shoving, its not the same thing at all).

    I believe the biggest opportunity for shoving and bad behaviour you'll see at DLP is in the random character meet n greets - we don't call them scrums for nothing! There is no queue, the character gets surrounded, and the CMs generally don't attempt to keep order.

    I've also witnessed an interesting game of "litter bin wars" at DLP while waiting for a parade to begin. I found it highly amusing to watch, we were already standing on the edge of the pavement to ensure no-one could stand in front of us on the parade route. But I could see exactly what the young couple near us who were in the parade route path and not yet on the pavement were trying to do - they were trying to move a litter bin back with their bums and legs by leaning against it, so they could stand in front of it and still be on the pavement. They didn't reckon on the determined woman who was already leaning on the bin behind them - she was just as sure as they were that bin wasn't moving an inch - and she was right :goodvibes. The young couple eventually had to give up and move on when the CM in the parade route insisted they get up onto the pavement.
     
  21. Carrie_Cat

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    I've been too many times to count (100's) and I've never had any real bother with queue jumpers.

    I've had people coming close to me but that's normal, I've had kids that have cut passed but then have stopped a bit further on and waited for their parents.

    I'm more annoyed by the person who waits alone in the queue and then the other parent turns up with the kids and joins when they are closer to the front.
     

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