Police Chief Indicted in Westfield, Ma child Uzi Tragedy.

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  1. DawnCt1

    DawnCt1 <font color=red>I had to wonder what "holiday" he

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    I have to say that I am shocked that the Police Chief owns the business that co sponsored this event. Those who have experience with firearms, are involved in training, etc, should know the limitations of a child and weapon of that size.



    http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2008/12/police_chief_in.html?p1=Well_MostPop_Emailed6

    Police chief indicted after Uzi death of boy, 8

    By Michael Levenson and Andrew Ryan, Globe Staff

    The longtime police chief of a small Western Massachusetts town was one of three people indicted today on involuntary manslaughter charges for the death of an 8-year-old boy who fatally shot himself with a machine gun at a weapons exposition in Westfield.

    Pelham Police Chief Edward B. Fleury owns COP Firearms & Training, which cosponsored the Machine Gun Shoot on Oct. 26 at the Westfield Sportsman's Club. Christopher Bizilj died while firing a 9mm Micro Uzi that recoiled and fatally shot him in the head.

    The grand jury also indicted the club and two men who supplied the Uzi that killed the boy. The men were identified as Carl Guiffre of Hartford and Domenico Spano of New Milford, Conn.

    Prosecutors did not seek an indictment against the boy's father, Dr. Charles Bizilj, who brought his son to the gun show and was standing with a camera 10 feet behind his son as he fired the weapon that afternoon. Bizilj, an emergency room physician from Ashford, Conn., "will be punished every day of the rest of his life," Hampden District Attorney William M. Bennett said this afternoon at a press conference, according to a story on the website of the Springfield Republican.

    Fleury and the club also were indicted on four counts each of furnishing a machine gun to a minor. Bennett said prosecutors know of at least four children, including Christopher, who fired the automatic weapons. The club faces a fine of up to $10,000 for each violation.


    "Obviously, we're very disappointed with the indictment," said Fleury's lawyer, David C. Kuzmeski. "And we, of course, have great sympathy for the family involved in the tragic accident. And as to the indictments, we will defend them and feel confident that when itÂ’s all over, Chief Fleury will be exonerated."

    Fleury has been police chief in Pelham for 20 years. The bucolic town of 1,400 outside Amherst also has one part-time police officer and another full-time officer, Gary Thomann, who has been serving as chief since Fleury went on a sick leave immediately after the fatal shooting.

    Fleury was well-known in Pelham for his personal zeal for gun safety. He regularly visited the schools to teach the National Rifle Association's "Eddie Eagle Gun Safety Program" to children as young as 5 and 6. He also taught gun safety courses for adults.

    Town officials had no immediate comment.
     
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  3. c4a

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    Idiots like that are the reason people are pushing for stronger gun laws.
     
  4. John Smith1

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    :sad2: Just dealing with the child's mother should be punishment enough.
    The father was the one at fault. How dumb was it to take a 8yo to a show like that? Machine guns? What is so interesting about machine guns that you have to share with yoru kid? :confused:
     
  5. DizBelle

    DizBelle CSI: Can't Stand Idiots

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    I'm not sure I understand how he got shot in he head. Can someone explain it to me? How did a recoil cause this?
     
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  7. DawnCt1

    DawnCt1 <font color=red>I had to wonder what "holiday" he

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    The event was advertised as safe for all ages. He trusted the instructor who assured him it was safe. His kid was interested in guns like a lot of little boys.
     
  8. TomLovesBecky

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    But his ER-physician father shouldn't? Plenty of blame to go around.
     
  9. DawnCt1

    DawnCt1 <font color=red>I had to wonder what "holiday" he

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    Being an expert in treating patients doesn't make one an expert in the capability of firearms. It was a huge misjudgment but someone who handles these type of weapons and is involved in training others to handle them, should really be the one who exercises better and informed judgment.
     
  10. DizBelle

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    I'm still not sure I get it. Was the boy's finger still pulling the trigger as it flipped over? Or does an automatic weapon continue firing after you stop pulling the trigger?

    It's a tragedy but it appears that it was an accident. The same thing could have happened to an adult.
     
  11. John Smith1

    John Smith1 <font color=blue>Proud Single Dad<br><font color=p

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    you know what? There are LOTS of things that can hurt children, swimming pools, parking lots, heck, amusement parks can hurt kids. It is the parent who has to be in charge of what that child does, deals with or picks up.

    Heck, my kid likes guns, too, but would I let him hold an a real loaded uzi at 8? Heck, kids like CARS too, but I wouldn't hand them the keys! I'd be a fool to just like that Dad who has to deal with the loss of his kid forever. You make a choice to endanger a child or to protect them. I'd rather err to the protect part.
     
  12. DawnCt1

    DawnCt1 <font color=red>I had to wonder what "holiday" he

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    DH says that it has a very short barrel, its powerful and when you pull back on the trigger it continues to fire. If its recoiling, it recoils up and he probably panicked at the force and continued to squeeze it. DH has seen soldiers on the firing range have difficulty handling the recoil and not letting go of the trigger.
    It seems that a police officer who trains others in the use of this weapon would understand it more than anyone.
     
  13. DawnCt1

    DawnCt1 <font color=red>I had to wonder what "holiday" he

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    I don't disagree with you. I would never have made that decision. DH would have never made that decision. It was a terrible decision but I think it was an uninformed decision made by the father of a family that are hunters and campers, and outdoors men. I think that the fact that an event like this existed and that was opened to all ages and children were encouraged to participate is where the problem began. This has been going on for years. Apparently one of the members of the board of this particular gun club quit over this event....before this happened. He felt that it should have been closed to children and he lost the argument. Too bad. :sad2:
     
  14. TimeforMe

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    They're ALL responsible, IMO. Not a rational mind in the bunch, if you ask me. And that poor little boy paid for their bad judgment. Grown-ups are supposed to protect children, keep them out of harm's way. They did the opposite.:guilty:
     
  15. GeorgeG

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    Common sense took a major holiday that day. Everyone involved should have known better.
     
  16. SHAYMARAYSMOM

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    My nephews like guns also but my brother knows it is not safe for them to handle guns like that.

    You would think he would have some common sense.
    It is a sad thing that happened but they should also be chargeing the dad with at least child endanerment
     
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  18. Kteacher

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    I live right next to Pelham, and my DH grew up there. We've all been wondering what took the DA so long ....... Fleury has always been thought of as an odd bird. He was involved in an incident some years ago where he was demonstrating gun safety and his gun went off accidently:sad2: Residents are getting upset because somehow Fleury has miraculously accumulated tons of vacation and sick time-he has been out on paid leave since the incident:sad2:
     
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  20. Charade

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    That's really sad and bizarre at the same time. It's a miracle no one else was shot.
     
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    Sorry but a FATHER should be the one protecting his son. I know nothing about guns and I would NEVER think to put an uzi in his hands. He made a choice taking his son to a show like that. And then putting an uzi into his hands that is beyond stupid and irresponsible. Would you trust an "instructor" that is putting a gun in your child's hand?
    My son was really into sharks at a very young age- I wasn't taking him to swim with them though.

    Common sense could have prevented this tragedy.
     

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