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from wvrevy's politico quote
And even if you can’t get ahead in the delegate count, don’t stop running!

Go to the convention in Denver and chain yourself to the front door of the Pepsi Center and refuse to leave unless every resident of Florida and Michigan — not just the rogue delegates but all 26 million residents! — is seated inside and gets to cast a ballot for you.

What’s the worst that could happen? Howard Dean comes out and bites you on the ankle? Forget about it. I could carve a tougher guy out of tofu.

But most of all, Sen. Clinton, never give up, never surrender.
I swear I'm not sure she would even surrender if she doesn't get the nomination. Bill won with 43% of the vote in 1992. Maybe she could bump Nader off his ticket.

The truly SCARY thing for me is what might happen if she did get elected. The current administration has allowed all of this wiretapping and access of our "stuff". Hillary will make it her mission in life to DESTROY anyone who has not supported her. This truly could be worse than Nixon.
 
Here's how Obama should seal the deal and not go negative:

He makes a big announcement along the lines of "I've got 40+millions to spend and my donors are far from tapped out. I can buy all the negative ads I want portraying Senator Clinton as the reincarnation of Ilsa the She Wolf. She's already 10 million in debt. I can spend her into oblivion and going negative. But, the American people deserve better. End of story. "

During the election of 2006, Bill Nelson ran against Katherine Harris. Harris pledged to use all her money for the campaign. We had a movement in Florida called "Make Her Spend It All". It involved donating to Bill Nelson and forcing Harris to play catchup until she ran out of money. Her campaign ran out of gas first.

I think a "Make Her Spend It All" campaign should be started against Hillary. And quite honestly, why doesn't Bill lend the campaign money? Or doesn't he think his wife is worth it?

Btw, Hillary's BIG victory in PA gave her 81 delegates ........... 12 more than Obama. :lmao:
 
wvrevy ~ any word from the Obama campaign on your ad idea? I'm crossing my fingers they run with it.

Not as yet, but I also forwarded it a couple people I know that are running the campaign here in WV, so we'll see if anything comes of it. I doubt they'll run it as a national or even a regional campaign commercial, but I wouldn't be surprised if it ended up posted to youtube and run there. If I hear anything, I'll let you guys know.

Also, the Mountaineers For Obama logo I made using logobama.com is being used on some of the fliers and things going out here in WV. :teeth:

Here's how Obama should seal the deal and not go negative:

He makes a big announcement along the lines of "I've got 40+millions to spend and my donors are far from tapped out. I can buy all the negative ads I want portraying Senator Clinton as the reincarnation of Ilsa the She Wolf. She's already 10 million in debt. I can spend her into oblivion and going negative. But, the American people deserve better. End of story. "

During the election of 2006, Bill Nelson ran against Katherine Harris. Harris pledged to use all her money for the campaign. We had a movement in Florida called "Make Her Spend It All". It involved donating to Bill Nelson and forcing Harris to play catchup until she ran out of money. Her campaign ran out of gas first.

I think a "Make Her Spend It All" campaign should be started against Hillary. And quite honestly, why doesn't Bill lend the campaign money? Or doesn't he think his wife is worth it?

Btw, Hillary's BIG victory in PA gave her 81 delegates ........... 12 more than Obama. :lmao:

I donated again yesterday to Obama's campaign. Still got a ways to go before I "max out", but hopefully she'll be long gone before I feel the need to donate again. ;)
 
Not as yet, but I also forwarded it a couple people I know that are running the campaign here in WV, so we'll see if anything comes of it. I doubt they'll run it as a national or even a regional campaign commercial, but I wouldn't be surprised if it ended up posted to youtube and run there. If I hear anything, I'll let you guys know.

Also, the Mountaineers For Obama logo I made using logobama.com is being used on some of the fliers and things going out here in WV. :teeth:



I donated again yesterday to Obama's campaign. Still got a ways to go before I "max out", but hopefully she'll be long gone before I feel the need to donate again. ;)

Yesterday got me to give money again too:) .....Hillary says they raised 10 million since Tuesday evening...I hope Obama did well too!!!!!!:banana:
 


Just a PSA:

A poster on the Con thread said that there are posters on this thread calling posters on the Hillary thread stupid. That has never happened. I think they just want to add fuel to the fire because they are really enjoying this Democratic in-fighting. It's not a mature thing to do, but what do you expect?
 
Just a PSA:

A poster on the Con thread said that there are posters on this thread calling posters on the Hillary thread stupid. That has never happened. I think they just want to add fuel to the fire because they are really enjoying this Democratic in-fighting. It's not a mature thing to do, but what do you expect?

I expect better than that! Shame on them.
 


Just a PSA:

A poster on the Con thread said that there are posters on this thread calling posters on the Hillary thread stupid. That has never happened. I think they just want to add fuel to the fire because they are really enjoying this Democratic in-fighting. It's not a mature thing to do, but what do you expect?

After the nomination of ol' bleeding heart, tree hugging Maverick McCain, the guy that just a short time ago ago was #2 on every Conservative's "Least Favorite Person" list (just a hair under Hillary), they're desparate for something to cheer about.
 
Just a PSA:

A poster on the Con thread said that there are posters on this thread calling posters on the Hillary thread stupid. That has never happened. I think they just want to add fuel to the fire because they are really enjoying this Democratic in-fighting. It's not a mature thing to do, but what do you expect?

I have never read that thread, and I hardly ever go to the Hillary thread. I guess they are the same as the NC Republican party that is running that horrible ad about Rev Wright. It is sad that politics has come to this point. It will only change when the voting public rejects the negative ads and votes on the issues. But that will probably take longer than getting a black man or a woman on the ballot.
 
Just a PSA:

A poster on the Con thread said that there are posters on this thread calling posters on the Hillary thread stupid. That has never happened. I think they just want to add fuel to the fire because they are really enjoying this Democratic in-fighting. It's not a mature thing to do, but what do you expect?

Color............me...................shocked.
 
I wonder if Terry McAwful will claim fox to be fair and balanced (like he did yesterday) after showing a net 10.

Sadly, I think that he would. Rush Limbaugh's Operation Chaos is probably the most successful grassroots "get out the vote" effort in the whole of the Clinton campaign. If she's going to drink the Kool-aid, why not make it a huge glass?
 
Why Hillary Makes My Wife Scream
Tom Hayden

My wife Barbara has begun yelling at the television set every time she hears Hillary Clinton. This is abnormal behavior, since Barbara is a meditative practitioner of everything peaceful and organic, and is inspired by Barack Obama's transformational appeal.

For Barbara, Hillary has become the screech on the blackboard. From First Lady to Lady Macbeth.

It's getting to me as well. Last year, I was somewhat reconciled to the prospect of supporting and pressuring Hillary as the nominee amidst the rising tide of my friends who already hated her, irrationally I thought. I was one of those people Barack accuses of being willing to settle. I even had framed a flattering autographed message from Hillary. But as the campaign has gone on and on, her signed portrait still leans against the wall in my study. I don't know where she belongs anymore.

At least Hillary was a known quantity in my life. I knew of the danger of her becoming more and more hawkish as she tried to break the ultimate glass ceiling. I also knew that she could be forced to change course if public opinion was fiercely opposed to the war. And I knew she was familiar with radical social causes from her own life experience in the sixties. So my progressive task seemed clear: help build an antiwar force powerful enough to make it politically necessary to end the war. Been there, done that. And in the process, finally put a woman in the White House. A soothing bonus.

But as the Obama campaign gained momentum, Hillary began morphing into the persona that has my pacifist wife screaming at the television set.

Going negative doesn't begin to describe what has happened. Hillary is going over the edge. Even worse are the flacks she sends before the cameras on her behalf, like that Kiki person, who smirks and shakes her head at the camera every time she fields a question. Or the real carnivores, like Howard Wolfson, Lanny Davis and James Carville, whose sneering smugness prevents countless women like my wife from considering Hillary at all.

To use the current terminology, Hillary people are bitter people, even more bitter than the white working-class voters Barack has talked about. Because they circle the wagons so tightly, they don't recognize how identical, self-reinforcing and out-of-touch they are.

To take just one example, the imagined association between Barack Obama and Bill Ayers will suffice. Hillary is blind to her own roots in the sixties. In one college speech she spoke of ecstatic transcendence; in another, she said, "Our social indictment has broadened. Where once we exposed the quality of life in the world of the South and the ghettos, now we condemn the quality of work in factories and corporations. Where once we assaulted the exploitation of man, now we decry the destruction of nature as well. How much long can we let corporations run us?"

She was in Chicago for three nights during the 1968 street confrontations. She chaired the 1970 Yale law school meeting where students voted to join a national student strike again an "unconscionable expansion of a war that should never have been waged." She was involved in the New Haven defense of Bobby Seale during his murder trial in 1970, as the lead scheduler of student monitors. She surely agreed with Yale president Kingman Brewster that a black revolutionary couldn't get a fair trial in America. She wrote that abused children were citizens with the same rights as their parents.

Most significantly in terms of her recent attacks on Barack, after Yale law school, Hillary went to work for the left-wing Bay Area law firm of Treuhaft, Walker and Burnstein, which specialized in Black Panthers and West Coast labor leaders prosecuted for being communists. Two of the firm's partners, according to Treuhaft, were communists and the two others "tolerated communists". Then she went on to Washington to help impeach Richard Nixon, whose career was built on smearing and destroying the careers of people through vague insinuations about their backgrounds and associates. (All these citations can be found in Carl Bernstein's sympathetic 2007 Clinton biography, A Woman in Charge.)

All these were honorable words and associations in my mind, but doesn't she see how the Hillary of today would accuse the Hillary of the sixties of associating with black revolutionaries who fought gun battles with police officers, and defending pro-communist lawyers who backed communists? Doesn't the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, whom Hillary attacks today, represent the very essence of the black radicals Hillary was associating with in those days? And isn't the Hillary of today becoming the same kind of guilt-by-association insinuator as the Richard Nixon she worked to impeach?

It is as if Hillary Clinton is engaged in a toxic transmission onto Barack Obama of every outrageous insult and accusation ever inflicted on her by the American right over the decades. She is running against what she might have become. Too much politics dries the soul of the idealist.

It is abundantly clear that the Clintons, working with FOX News and manipulating old Clinton staffers like George Stephanopoulos, are trying, at least unconsciously, to so damage Barack Obama that he will be perceived as "unelectable" to Democratic superdelegates. It is also clear that the campaign of defamation against Obama has resulted in higher negative ratings for Hillary Clinton. She therefore is threatening the Democratic Party's chances for the White House, whether or not she is the nominee.

Since no one in the party leadership seems able or willing to intervene against this self-destructive downward spiral, perhaps progressives need to consider responding in the only way politicians sometimes understand. If they can't hear us screaming at the television sets, we can send a message that the Clintons are acting as if they prefer John McCain to Barack Obama. And follow it up with another message: if Clinton doesn't immediately cease her path of destruction, millions of young voters and black voters may not send checks, may not knock on doors, and may not even vote for her if she becomes the nominee. That's not a threat, that's the reality she is creating.
 
I find it ironic that Hillary has all this "Executive Branch experience" from serving as First Lady when she was an "important part of the Clinton Presidency." However, when anything comes up that seems a bit fishy, she somehow had no idea about it, or didn't play an important part there - ie NAFTA.

Remember her criticizing Obama for knowing a member of the Weather underground?

Well it seems she "had no idea" about the 2001 clemency case involving two former members.

http://weblogs.newsday.com/news/loc...g/2008/04/hill_on_brinks_radical_i_didnt.html

How convenient!
 
I find it ironic that Hillary has all this "Executive Branch experience" from serving as First Lady and she was an "important part of the Clinton Presidency." However, when anything comes up that seems a bit fishy, she somehow had no idea about it, or didn't plan an important part there - ie NAFTA.

Remember her criticizing Obama for knowing a member of the Weather underground?

Well it seems she "had no idea" about the 2001 clemency case involving two former members.

http://weblogs.newsday.com/news/loc...g/2008/04/hill_on_brinks_radical_i_didnt.html

How convenient!

:sad2: :mad: :rolleyes:
 
I find it ironic that Hillary has all this "Executive Branch experience" from serving as First Lady and she was an "important part of the Clinton Presidency." However, when anything comes up that seems a bit fishy, she somehow had no idea about it, or didn't plan an important part there - ie NAFTA.

Remember her criticizing Obama for knowing a member of the Weather underground?

Well it seems she "had no idea" about the 2001 clemency case involving two former members.

http://weblogs.newsday.com/news/loc...g/2008/04/hill_on_brinks_radical_i_didnt.html

How convenient!

:rolleyes: how convenient.
 
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