Lending money to family

Do not lend the money. You do not have it.

I agree, give the $100 gift card. If you are religious, pray that they can become more responsible.
Neither a lender nor a borrower be.
 
Hmmm, everyone has such good responses. My first thought was no don't lend them money. I personally have never loaned anyone money but I my aunt has to my constant down-in-the-luck (usually his fault) cousin who never pays her back fully, yet she still loans him money. Why? because he is family and she can afford to. Sure she should probably save the money for a rainy day and maybe one day she might need that money but for now she finds my cousin's needs more important then any "what if" scenerios.

I understand that you should take care of your family first but if the only reason you aren't loaning her the money is because you don't know what the future holds and you might need the money in the future, then I think you are wrong. No one knows what the future holds. The world could end tomorrow. Who knows? But what I do know family is important and we should be there for them. Put yourself in her shoes. Do you have family that would help you through tough times?

I also think there is a good chance your SIL's situation is a lot worse then you think (but I am just guessing). Most people don't ask for loans at the first sign of trouble, they usually wait until all their resources are exhausted and they are pretty desperate. Just a thought.
 
Do not lend the money. You do not have it.

I agree, give the $100 gift card. If you are religious, pray that they can become more responsible.
Neither a lender nor a borrower be.

Are you religious? Because I am and I was taught to help my fellow brothers and sisters. We don't know that her family wasn't responsible with their money. I thought this was a lost job situation, not a crazy credit card spending situation.

I personally think the $100 gift card is a slap in the face. It is like saying "sorry you need $2000, here take $100 so you can at least eat for a week before you lose your house."
 
I know I am going to be in the minority here but I just had to add some thoughts.

First of all, personally in the same situation if I had the money available and had a good relationship with the family member I would definitely lend the money - at least the first time around. BUT... I would have to make sure that I was okay with the fact that I could very well not get the money back and would not let that damage our relationship in any way. As others have suggested I would not "gift" the money as to me that opens the door for future "gifts" and I would not want to start that habit.

But this is going to be one huge area where my opinions differ. I would definitely NOT put anything in writing. To me I would be doing a family member a favor, and if they valued the relationship as much as I did they would pay me back in time - however if they chose not to I would walk away knowing that I did a family member a good deed and that I knew I could very well not get the money back. I would most likely never lend them money again but I would not harbor bad feelings. But to put it in writing would be more like a business venture to me and it would make things awkward and tense. At that point no longer am I graciously trying to help a family member but I am enetering into a loan agreement. And that does not represent a family relationship to me. I know if my family member needed money badly enough to ask me for it then they do not need to be further humiliated by having to sign a contract, etc. If that is necessary then perhaps they should be visiting a bank and not me. To me it just strongly goes against the grain of family and what that represents. Sorry, just my opinion!

And some have degraded this family for not having any savings to depend on - but noone has bothered to ask many questions before passsing judgement. Times are tough folks, perhaps this family had savings and it has been used up already. None of us can ever honestly say we have enough left to survive comfortably no matter what circumstances should happen to come our way. I know many say that you should have a 3-5 months of mortgage and bill money readily saved - I am here to tell you that is not nearly enough!

Let me give you a flip side example to some of the stories you have already heard. Last year my DH was laid off in Oct. 07. This is pretty typical for us as he is a union construction worker and we are used to long winters off most years. For that reason I hoard money and save year round so that we are always comfortable during those times and live comfortably without relying on savings. However in Nov. a medical issue came up and he required surgery. He was medically out of work until March and just before being released another surgery became necessary. Normally March would find him working once again, but medically this was impossible. We were just about set to return to normal and his gallbladder decided to act up and the first week of July found him in the hospital again. Total last year he had four surgeries, all of them necessary immediately. And September he started a 6 month chemotherapy course which he is currently still undergoing. He is the solo bread winner in the family and I was willing to go to work and try to help make ends meet however we were back and forth to drs. hospitals and chemo and he was unable to drive - I needed to be home. I might also tell you I am only 36 years old and never expected my life to take a turn like this. By the time late October 08 rolled around things were getting pretty bad. A year prior we had already cut out most extras, and had changed our lifestyle drastically, no more eating out, bowling, movies, going out with family and friends. My SIL frequently asked us if we were okay and how things were going. When I replied we were okay she often commented on how amazed she was that I had enough put away to keep us going and that they would of lost their house in our position. That felt good to know that many others would of fallen long before I did but still as time went on - it was gettig harder and harder. One night while talking to her right after chemo started and the effects were taking place I burst into tears and just snapped. I told her I was not sure how much more I could handle and I was not just talking about finances - everything was getting to me. We were going to their house that weekend just to play some games and spend some time together and SIL came over to me and handed me a check. I was shocked and told her DH would never agree to this and that I could not take it. She assured me that if it made me more comfortable I could keep it between us and not tell DH. The next thing she did was took my hand and gave me a wad of bills and said and this is in case you guys need some cash right away. Please let us know when you need more. I cried that night for hours and eventually did tell DH what had happened. He called his brother and SIL and tried to return the money they refused. They said they needed to know that he could relax and recooperate and not worry about finances. DH reminded them that he was not sure what the future was going to hold and when he could resume work. They told him it did not matter. We emphatically told them as soon as we could we would begin paying them back. They were so graceful and understanding it was amazing. And DH returned to work about 1 1/2 months later. He works when he can and does not push himself further than possible since he is still in chemo. I have found lots of ways to earn extra and we did pay them back faster than we ever hoped for. But I have to tell you they were our angels - I don't think I ever would of asked but then knew us well enough to know what was happen, they saw the changes and they saw us struggle to hold things together for over a year and they reacted. We will never,. ever forget that! And our relationship has grown so much stronger for that. We were close before, unbelievably close but now we know exactly how much we would do for the other. And you know - I am not ashamed that the savings was not enough - I am not going to apologize for not being careful enough. It happens - circumstances far worse than you think are imaginable can and do come up. Family should be there during those rough times! But then again family can easily take advantage.

But I will say follow your heart and your instincts. Only you know what type of people they are. Only you know if they have really tried to make ends meet without asking your aid, only you know if theyhave any intention of ever paying you back. And only you know how this will effect your relationship either way. I believe instinct is an invaluable tool and all too often we cast it aside.

Anyways, I have rattled on long enough and I apologize to all of you for doing so. But it hurt to hear some of the judgements being tossed around. Believe I never, ever expected to be in the shoes I found myself in and it isnot a pleasant place to be. Please know we will keep you and your family members in ourt prayers and hope that this is the start of a new beginning for all of you.:grouphug:


Yes, this brought tears to my eyes also. We went through a very similar experience recently. My dh is/was also a construction worker. We also saved, saved and saved and it paid off. It was not easy, it was tough not knowing how long we would have to live waiting and waiting. My dh suffered a heart attack, three months later had a quadruple bypass and three months after that another emergency surgery for fluid around the heart. We lived off our savings for 10 months until everything was settled. I had two family members who reminded me over and over that they were there if we needed anything. It was a great comfort just to know that.

Having said that - you know your finances, you know your relationship and you might or might not know how they handled their finances. We can't judge now when they might be desperate. You might be able to help them now but what about tomorrow? They need to have a plan in motion. Regardless, do what you feel is comfortable and what you can afford to give/give up as a gift. If they pay you back, great, if not - that should be okay too. You and you dh will know if they have or will take advantage of you.

Everyone means well and just want to to be aware of all the possibilities. It is a very tough situation to be in. Are there parents involved (both sides? just curious).

Good luck to them.
 


I have not read the other responses. My 2 cents--give them $500 as a gift (or whatever amount you are comfortable with). They will have to call other people besides you and ask for help and will (perhaps) get some other gifts. You never loan money to family and expect to see it again.
 
I have lent money to family members in the past. I don't get paid back, then they stop talking to me to avoid the conversation, then things get weird.
I would never loan money to anyone again unless I had it to just give as a gift with no hope of it being returned. If they can't pay now, why would February be different. (maybe tax refund)
 
The decision is yours to make. People can tell you why or why not to lend them the money. Definitely do not expect to ever be paid back

If my brother and wife came to my DH and me, my answer would be no. For 16 years we have watched the way THEY CHOOSE to spend their money. They put their wants before their needs and then when they cannot make their mortgage payment, electric, cable etc. THEY EXPECT everyone around them to help them out. My SIL goes tanning everyday, spend $$ having her nails done each week, they run to the Walmart every day, etc etc. My brother has to have new motorcycles, camping trailers, and all the other toys. A few Christmas ago, my brother went to make a house payment and the bank said that there was not enough funds in his account, when he went home and question his wife and she replied the bank can wait for their money, I picked up all my layaways. Excuse me but having a roof over my head is way more important than having 100 presents under a tree.

So ask yourself, do they normally spend their money wisely (living within their means) or are they ones that have to have everything they want?
Will the money be used for the purpose that they are requesting it for?
 


I personally think the $100 gift card is a slap in the face. It is like saying "sorry you need $2000, here take $100 so you can at least eat for a week before you lose your house."


No, it sure wouldn't be a slap in the face! As someone who's husband lost his job 5 wks ago, someone who is quite freaked out about whether he'll ever get another and how we are going to make ends meet, it would be a BLESSING to know that even if my family can't help me with as much as I asked for, they care enough to help me buy SOMETHING to sustain my family during a crisis.
 
Only you can know in your heart what is the right thing to do.

People can give endless examples of bad family loans and some people can give examples of great help.

We had to ask for help from my mom once and I tell you it was the hardest thing I have ever had to do. I cried and cried. We paid her back and gave her extra "as interest".

My DH gets a "bonus" the same time every year so my mom was the first one paid.

We are now struggling and I mean really struggling. I have been looking for a job for a while, DH is taking a pay cut and our health insurance increased. For the next month or two we are rocky.
If I had a family member to ask it would be my last resort.

Do you think that it was easy for her to ask for help? Some people assume family=money so they expect things. Other people find asking very hard. Can you tell?

I think if you have the money available that you should lend it. Have hope that they will come through and repay you.
I think $100 GC, although sounds nice, is not really what they are looking for right now. The need cash.
Is it possible for you to directly pay one month's mortgage?
 
Hmmm, everyone has such good responses. My first thought was no don't lend them money. I personally have never loaned anyone money but I my aunt has to my constant down-in-the-luck (usually his fault) cousin who never pays her back fully, yet she still loans him money. Why? because he is family and she can afford to. Sure she should probably save the money for a rainy day and maybe one day she might need that money but for now she finds my cousin's needs more important then any "what if" scenerios.

I understand that you should take care of your family first but if the only reason you aren't loaning her the money is because you don't know what the future holds and you might need the money in the future, then I think you are wrong. No one knows what the future holds. The world could end tomorrow. Who knows? But what I do know family is important and we should be there for them. Put yourself in her shoes. Do you have family that would help you through tough times?

I also think there is a good chance your SIL's situation is a lot worse then you think (but I am just guessing). Most people don't ask for loans at the first sign of trouble, they usually wait until all their resources are exhausted and they are pretty desperate. Just a thought.


COMPLETLY AGREE!
 
We lent money to the inlaws last year and it drove me nuts until they paid us back. I has a really hard time with it and MIL has a gambling issue so it drove me completely insane to know that she was at the casino when she owed us money. I will say I will never do it again as far as they know from now on we are broke.
 
My SIL's DH got layed off from his job and they are having money problems. She called DH tonight and asked him if they could borrow a bouple thousand dollars to cover the house payment for January anad February. She said they could pay us back in the middle of February. He told her he would have to talk to me about it. I said no way. He is an independent contractor and his business is not secure right now at all. I am clinging to my money. He feels really bad that he can't help her. Am I being selfish? I am just afraid that if they can't pay us back and his business slows down, where are we?:confused3
ITA you shouldn't lend them the money. You are not being selfish. They need to work something out with their lender.

However, if you change your mind and if you do help them, ask for the coupon from the mortgage, and make the check payable to the mortgage company, and mail it yourself, so the money goes where it's supposed to. And if the money to pay you back is coming from their tax refund, they can assign the refund to you on the tax return, so the $$ goes straight to you.
 
I would rather give money to a family member than 'lose' a family member over a few thousand. If you can't afford it, then tell them your situation.

I don't know your family or your history, so I am thinking of my family. I agree that I wouldn't really EXPECT the money back - so I woudn't let their non-payment ruin your relationship with them either.

I would investigate why they think they'll be able to repay. Maybe the situation is legit, in which case, if my sister lost her house because I didn't help her out when she couldhave repaid me, I'd feell really bad. But that's my family and my situation. I have good reason to trust my family. I also think if one of my sibling was in the situation - we'd all be able to pool together to help out. I sure would like to think that my siblings would be willing to help me out...but I hope I never have to find out either.
 
I haven't read through all of the posts but here is my take on it after having gone through this MANY times with my MIL.

First, I learned that it had to be my husband's decision. To him it was much more than financial. He was the one who had more invested in the relationship and I learned to trust him with the decison he needed to make.

Yes, at points (she failed to make the yearly tax payments on 2 houses, and needed a new engine) it did hurt us financially. But we always made up the money some how. She paid us back what she could and the effort was apparent. This was 2 years ago and now we are more than fine again.

I would at least suggest to him that $1000 would be an appropriate GIFT. It is his sister after all. The GIFT of $1000 might mean more than a loan of $2000. And will save you both the mess if she can't pay you back. You never know what you might need someday, God forbid. Hopefully, we will all continue to be blessed with financial security but no matter how much you save and plan there is always a chance that it can all be taken away. If giving is ALWAYS easy than maybe we aren't giving enough?

Monica
 
Hmmm, everyone has such good responses. My first thought was no don't lend them money. I personally have never loaned anyone money but I my aunt has to my constant down-in-the-luck (usually his fault) cousin who never pays her back fully, yet she still loans him money. Why? because he is family and she can afford to. Sure she should probably save the money for a rainy day and maybe one day she might need that money but for now she finds my cousin's needs more important then any "what if" scenerios.

I understand that you should take care of your family first but if the only reason you aren't loaning her the money is because you don't know what the future holds and you might need the money in the future, then I think you are wrong. No one knows what the future holds. The world could end tomorrow. Who knows? But what I do know family is important and we should be there for them. Put yourself in her shoes. Do you have family that would help you through tough times?

I also think there is a good chance your SIL's situation is a lot worse then you think (but I am just guessing). Most people don't ask for loans at the first sign of trouble, they usually wait until all their resources are exhausted and they are pretty desperate. Just a thought.

I don't agree with lending them money just because they are family. You need to look at a few things first. How much would it hurt your relationship if you lent them the money and then they couldn't pay it back? And what would happen then if you had no income for a while and had spent your savings on them? Where would your family be? Could you survive?

Having said that I have lent my parents money. Over $3000 and I know I will never get it back. And my sis and her hubby lent them $2000 at the same time. My parents were desperate, so we lent them the money. My brother in law even set them up on a budget. After all of that my parents still ended up going into bankrupcy. So it is like I just threw my money into the wind. Money I really couldn't afford to give them. And it has most definately put a wierd kind of vibe into our relationship.

Maybe look at your finances and see if there is an amount you can comfortabley gift them. But do not put your own family at risk by giving them money you cannot afford. No one knows what the future holds, but that is not an excuse for pulling the safety net out from under YOUR family.
 
You know your SIL best, is she living within her means and just down on her luck or is she spending money she doesn't have and looking for a bailout? If she's living within her means, I'd give her the money. I wouldn't lend the money because IMHO lending money is never a good idea. 2 years ago I "lent" my BIL and sister money to pay bills for a restaurant I knew was failing because I felt like the relationship was more important than the money. It has changed our relationship in ways I never would have imagined. Every time they get a new toy or gadget, it peeves me because I know they owe me (and many, many other people) money. When they choose to spend extra money on things like that, it feels like they are blowing us all off and are spitting in the face of the help we gave them. When my BIL showed up at christmas with a new iphone, I about lost it. In retrospect I wish I would have given the money as a gift and insisted they never pay it back.
 
Here's another vote for not lending them the $$$$...... See all the other points listed above for all the good reasons not to lend. Now on to some ideas that may help...
1) gift card to Walmart or Target. This way they can purchase food or other needs.
2) electric or phone gift cards. Believe it or not these things do exist :rolleyes: . Now, they may not in their area but hear me out. I was playing around with a friend that moved to Georgia (they were a little strapped b/c they just purchased their first home) and I went on the web site for her power co. (I think to help answer a question for her) and I saw that you could purchase gift cards for electricity. Why not try to help them in this way? Maybe paying a few utility bills would ease the burden and then they could at least make a partial mortgage payment.
All in all I just love how other people like to involve others in their problems (no flames I know we are talking about family here) but now the OP is feeling bad b/c she is financially responsible and SIL and BIL are not.:sad2: Just not fair in my humble opinion..... Good luck OP, I'm sure you'll do what is right for your family.
 
I have loaned so much money to family and not gotten it back I know what you are feeling .
My Grandfather once told me " Never loan money you cant afford to look at as a gift because you may never get it back "

I only went against that one time with a very large amount 10K :scared: to my Sperm Donor ( I cant even call him my Dad ) and I am still waiting after 11 years for the 5 months to be up that he said it would take to get it back to me :sad2:
 
I agree with the PPs stating that if you can't afford to give it, don't lend it. I also wanted to add that if you can't be comfortable with these family members if they don't pay you back, don't lend it either. Not worth a rift in the family if they renege on the debt. Although they may have hard feelings if you refuse, too. Sorry, OP that you are put into this position.
 

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