I can see this being the new normal once FP+ is completely rolled out. I don't see that as a bad thing. It would just mean that people are being 'pushed out' of the standby lines and into the FP lines. Thereby giving them more time to not wait in lines.
To me, this entire concept is only hampered by our thinking that the standby line is the 'normal' line while the FP line is some kind of rare benefit. If, with FP+, we are all pretty likely to be able to get a single FP for every ride we want to ride and have the ability to wait standby if we wish to ride a ride multiple times, I think that FP+ will be a huge winner.
lugnut33 said:This is all in anticipation of the MyMagic+ system. You better be staying on-site and planning your rides 60 days out if you plan on avoiding those standby lines.[/QUOTE
Won't be able to avoid the stand by's if your only allowed 3 fp a day
lugnut33 said:This is all in anticipation of the MyMagic+ system. You better be staying on-site and planning your rides 60 days out if you plan on avoiding those standby lines.[/QUOTE
Won't be able to avoid the stand by's if your only allowed 3 fp a day
It's 3 for now, but will be based on which resort category you stay in or how much money you're willing to part with to upgrade your tickets. Wouldn't be surprised if one level is "unlimited fastpasses". Imagine the money they'll fetch for that.
It's 3 for now, but will be based on which resort category you stay in or how much money you're willing to part with to upgrade your tickets. Wouldn't be surprised if one level is "unlimited fastpasses". Imagine the money they'll fetch for that.
This is all in anticipation of the MyMagic+ system. You better be staying on-site and planning your rides 60 days out if you plan on avoiding those standby lines.
I'm not seeing how that's a problem. That just means that a greater number of people get on without a long wait.Tormania said:You do realize that if everyone is pushed from the stand-by line to the FP line then you haven't solved anything, all you've accomplished is rearranging the deck chairs. If they are handing out so many FP that almost everyone can use one for that window then everyone will be in the fast pass line and they might as well close the stand-by line then.
The whole point of FP was to provide a LIMITED number of passes that could be spread out across the entire day, allowing a certain number of guests the opportunity to do some other activity then return later for a shorter wait. Well if they triple the number of passes made available for a particular window then that triples the number of people in the FP line. And then if the CMs are trying to keep the FP line at a reasonable number (based on what they have been told to do) they are letting significantly more FP guests into rides then stand-by guests.
lugnut33 said:This is all in anticipation of the MyMagic+ system. You better be staying on-site and planning your rides 60 days out if you plan on avoiding those standby lines.
disneymagicgirl said:Did I miss the memo that said the FP+ would be a tiered system or is that still speculation?
These line reports are stressing me out!
I was there 3 weeks ago (MLK weekend) and visited all parks except AK. All posted wait times were very close to the actual wait time, and the only FP line I waited more than 5 minutes in was TT.
I'm not disputing the OP's report, but they wait times aren't ALWAYS off.
The ride wait times are based on actual times through the lines with the red card. These should take into account the fast passes (unless it is right at 9:45 when they start). It seems a little off that the actual wait time is triple without some sort of ride issue.
I realize these are your experiences, but might these be the exception, rather than the norm?
You do realize that if everyone is pushed from the stand-by line to the FP line then you haven't solved anything, all you've accomplished is rearranging the deck chairs. If they are handing out so many FP that almost everyone can use one for that window then everyone will be in the fast pass line and they might as well close the stand-by line then.
The whole point of FP was to provide a LIMITED number of passes that could be spread out across the entire day, allowing a certain number of guests the opportunity to do some other activity then return later for a shorter wait. Well if they triple the number of passes made available for a particular window then that triples the number of people in the FP line. And then if the CMs are trying to keep the FP line at a reasonable number (based on what they have been told to do) they are letting significantly more FP guests into rides then stand-by guests.
This isn't about whether the stated wait time is accurate or not because a large group of people got in line, people have said that it was taking 30+ minutes for only 4 parties to go through the stand-by line while tons and tons of FP guests were being let go. Where under normal conditions 4 parties in a standby line would almost all be on the next cycle for a ride in most circumstances. The reports from folks seem to bear this out.
I don't know if any of the Disney bloggers have historically tracked how many fastpasses are available for a given attraction but it would be nice to see how many passes are being generated now and how many in a given window. (For example say in Mar 2012 Soarin' gave out 2000 FP on a given day, 200 for each 1 hour window, then compare it to Mar 2013 and if it is giving out 6000 FP then that would help explain some of these reported issues).
Also, if Disney is not already doing this what they need to do it incorporate the known number of issued FP for a ride and include that into the Wait Time, cause they should know how many returning riders are coming back via the FP and that should always be included in the Wait Time posted for any ride.
I'm just hoping all these issues are sorted out before December and I imagine that they wil be, little comfort for folks travelling in the next few weeks and months though.
Did I miss the memo that said the FP+ would be a tiered system or is that still speculation?
These line reports are stressing me out!