Good/Bad Internet and eBay Pin Sellers

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  1. HowWeird

    HowWeird Flat Adventurer

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    Leave it to me to buy a lot and then do the research :headache: What a mistake to not consult the great advice on this thread! Add two to the red list, please!

    thinkerbelle102 and tradepinscheap (why didn't I find that name fishy ...)

    It's such a shame that people are so careless and have such disregard for honesty. Of course, even if they get negative feedback on eBay, they could just go back and start up a new name and sell the same scrappers! I'm really grateful for the trusted list. Hope nobody else has to encounter the scrappers above!
     
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  3. jodee1201

    jodee1201 Earning My Ears

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    I completely agree with you! I went and looked on e-bay tonight, only looking at individuals that were on the green list. The prices they want for individual pins is SO high! I see why people are lured into buying these bulk cheap pins. I don't think it's right to buy scrapper pins, but I'm not willing to play the high price and then go to Disney and trade with individuals that have these scrapper pins and thus, give away my expensive official ones. I know my kiddos...if someone has a pin they like, it's hard to reason with a four yr. old that they can't trade, because it's not an official one. I'm in a quandry. :confused3
     
  4. SandrA9810

    SandrA9810 DIS Veteran

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    I just wanted to post, I give another thumbs up to gitanoman on ebay. I hadn't even heard of this topic when I purchased from him. But the pin I got came in great condition, and was the real thing.

    When I buy off ebay, I only buy solos and look at the pictures carefully to make sure they're real. Small pictures or generic internet pictures turn me away real quick.
     
  5. Dezo

    Dezo Earning My Ears

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    Hadn't seen this thread before I bought on ebay. I've got a few seperate lots coming.

    First one arrived today from - andyorangeplanes

    It's a (#75892) Tinker Bell 3D pin from earlier this year with the new stamping method on the back. I've looked at the links to a picture showing how to tell the difference between a scrapper and a real pin with the new back and it does look real.

    The only things making me doubt it's real is that he's on the red list here and the pin clutch is different to every other pin my girlfriend has. But she doesn't have any other pins with the new back stamps so have nothing to compare it with. It's smaller, harder and the copyright mark is on the underside rather than on the topside.
    And if I'm being overly critical the polishing on the side doesn't look as clean as the rest of her pins.

    The front of the pin and the quality itself is really good though.
     
  6. DisneyRunner2009

    DisneyRunner2009 DIS Veteran

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    I have purchased from gitanoman as well, it was a while ago. :thumbsup2
    I too, have used the feedback as a buyer for reference. If I see a person buys from certain sellers, I won't do business with them.
     
  7. pixiewings71

    pixiewings71 <marquee><font color=deeppink>Sweet!!! Totally!!!!

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    I feel for you. I really do, this was how I felt right after I found out about scrappers, but after I really thought about it for a while I realized I was feeling angry with myself for not educating myself more. Which is why I'm so active on this thread. Also, since I pay more for my traders if/when I list stuff on eBay it's for more $$ because my out of pocket is more, also my out of pocket is more because when we get scrappers we don't trade them, we keep them and use them in other ways. So I feel I'm putting more $$ into the hobby so I start my listings for more. Does that make sense? And while my kids weren't 4 when they started trading they do know that Mom or Dad have the FINAL say for trades, so if they are working out a trade before it's done we have to see it and OK it. If we say no it simply doesn't happen, no matter how badly the kids want it. Of course mine are old enough to understand about scrappers and shady traders so they make pretty good judgment calls on their own. :)

    Gitanoman is one of my absolute favorites. Her name is actually Karen and she's been extremely reliable for me!! In fact I've asked her to find certain pins for me and she's done so, she really is awesome!! :)

    I also try to find sellers who use their own photos (which is why I use my own photos) rather then pinpics but some have so many up it's almost impossible to do that.

    Another good vote for Karen!! so good to see that!! :) I too have used the FB for reference, but there are times I've actually purchased scrappers on purpose.......I like to do "projects" with pins sometimes and it's better to use scrappers in some cases. Right now I'm working on a Nemo cross stitch that I want to frame with pins and hang in the bathroom.....well I don't want to use real pins in the bathroom so I've looked for scrappers from known scrapper sellers and purchased those....of course with 1 group of them I didn't realize they were scrappers until after I'd left feedback...yup, I simply did not check them well enough before leaving my FB.....even after all this time I still make that kind of dumb mistake. :)
     
  8. DisneyCrimsonTide

    DisneyCrimsonTide Earning My Ears

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    This is my first post but I have been reading this thread for a couple of months now. I've learned a lot about pin trading. I'm now addicted to the hobby.

    I'm looking at buying a low # A/P on eBay and could not find any mention of this seller in this thread. Has anyone bought pins from goofydon? If anyone has any knowledge of them let me know. Thanks in advance.

    As other new pin traders have stated I wish I would have found this board before I bought my first pins. My 1st experience on eBay was buying from a thief named pintradinguniversity. The seller never sent me my lot (and I have a feeling they would have been scrappers). He's now banned from eBay so there's no need to include him in the list of red sellers.

    Here's a brief listing of my buying experience:
    Good - as far as I can tell 100% authentic:
    totaljohn
    lvnapoli
    wdwgirlz
    angali35
    fergiestjohn
    gyantzpod
    disneydreamer531
    disneyforfun
    joytoys

    Mixed - would buy from them but realize some could be scrappers - prices are lower than the list above.
    thewill 1 out of 7 pins
    Sleepys_emporium - hit or miss (especially in their lots 60/40). Willing to send replacements.
    Treasuresforfamily - 1 of 9 pins

    Avoid:
    heaven-help-us (WDI ID Badges are scrappers)
    423disneypinfreak - 100% scrapper lot of 40 pins.
     
  9. Spiffie

    Spiffie Wishing to be in my happy place!!

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    Glad to have you join us! Does your screen name mean that you are in Alabama or an Alabama Crimson Tide fan? I am in Alabama but I bleed orange and blue!:goodvibes

    Several of us here have purchased from THEWILL, including me. I tend to think that this person intends to sell authentic pins and may not know the difference themselves. Simply because the intentional people will sell you more bad than good. That is how they make their money.

    I have not heard of the seller you are questioning with the AP pin, but maybe someone here has and will chime in for you. If you don't get a response and you do purchase the item, be sure you get back with this thread and indicate your experience so they can be added to the list. Also, remember that often people banned from eBay will create new identities and keep on going! So, check and double check for any suspicious behavior!

    Have fun!
     
  10. scrapbooksellman

    scrapbooksellman Mouseketeer

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    So after reading a lot of this thread, am I to conclude that all lots of pins on ebay are mostly or all scrappers??
    :confused3
     
  11. DisneyRunner2009

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    I would have to say, yes. Look at the green list in the first post. Also, use the tips given: refer to dizpins, pinpics and pricing per pin. If it is a dollar or less per pin this is a tip off. A few other things to look for in an ebay listing are: feedback as a buyer, the seller may have purchased the pins they are selling from a red listed person, the wording 100% tradable, a mention of duplicates or doubles, and if the location seems a little far from Disney. An example would be default, default China or China China.
     
  12. debranator

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    no....I buy many real pins from ebay,
    but..I do not pay one buck a pin for them...
    most large lots..if not all...turn out to be scrappers.
    Single pins or ones from sellers that do not have tons of lots for sale...are usually fine.
    i also only buy from the US..there is a default box on the left side of the auction..that lets you screen out non US auctions.
     
  13. scrapbooksellman

    scrapbooksellman Mouseketeer

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    I found many of the green list ebayers do not have itmes listed right now.
     
  14. smileycrissy

    smileycrissy DIS Veteran

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    I so agree with you about educating yourself and others on the DIS about the scrappers. LOL, you've seen me in an other thread and anytime I come across a new thread concerning eBay pins I ask people to check out this thread first.

    I've decided to take the scrappers that I have and turn some into magnets (thanks to reading some tips on here) and the rest I'm going to use on some round corkboards I bought from Ikea to decorate my walls. Funny thing is I can agree with you about buying the scrappers for projects because I was thinking of getting some more to help decorate my wall with. :)
     
  15. 52disney

    52disney Earning My Ears

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    hello everyone. i am new to the disboards but have been reading it for awhile. do you have an update on these sellers? do you know if anyone has made an updated green/orange/red list or does that update occasionally?
    i've bought pins on ebay inthe past and my experience has been with

    sleepy'semporium
    retiredreadingspecialist
    wings2fly2010
    steamtraininc
    mrdisneycollector

    sleepy's was good pins for the most part, retired reading specialist's most seems good but starting to get some scrappers (i'd say 3-4 per lot of 40). she states she trades them all at the parks so she might be getting scrappers in return, wings2fly2010 is the same as lauritadelmar so.... most scrappers or on warning list, steamtraininc had about 3-4 per batch of 40 so not too bad of odds again, and mrdisneycollectors were nice.

    just ordered some from

    tjtreasures
    thewill
    gyantzpod

    our season of disney visits is here so we are excited and my kids just love to trade. they've started a collection book and don't mind if they keep the scrappers there. my husband and i like to trade for better ones but want to try to get make sure not trading scrappers but not go broke in the process.

    thanks for all the input everyone has given to help.
     
  16. pixiewings71

    pixiewings71 <marquee><font color=deeppink>Sweet!!! Totally!!!!

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    IME yes, most large lots are full of scrappers. This is why I only purchase smaller lots. :)

    This may be the case but pins will be listed. :) :) At least in my case they will be, but I don't sell pins for super cheap. :)


    LOL I'm glad I was able to inspire you!! :) :)


    Welcome!!! We update page 1 as required. We take all input and use it to build the thread. Status is the same on the sellers you've listed. :)
     
  17. Cardsfann18

    Cardsfann18 Cardinals and Disney fan for life!!!

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    I just bought a legit jumbo pin from fun-in-the-sun-florida and it was mint in the box, green list for sure!!!
     
  18. caimakale

    caimakale Mouseketeer

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    So do the cast members actually accept scrapper pins? I've only purchased pins in the parks for me and my family and my girls have traded several times with cast members. It makes me sick to think that the pins we paid $6+ for may have been traded for rip-offs that may only be worth 50 cents. How common are lots (~20 pins) of truly official disney pins on ebay? What can one expect to pay for one of these lots? If I'm going to pay a ton of money on ebay for pins that are official, I would rather just spend my money in the parks on them and get exactly what we want.

    I am inclined to stop trading them though because I don't want to get inferior pins. What to do... :confused3
     
  19. pixiewings71

    pixiewings71 <marquee><font color=deeppink>Sweet!!! Totally!!!!

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    Most CM's don't know anything about scrappers actually so yes, they will take almost any pin in trade. I will not purchase the large lots anymore, but I do purchase lots of 20 and under, but only if the seller doesn't have a lot of 20 pin lots listed and only if they are on the green list. Its hard to say how much you can expect to pay for a lot, it varies based on seller and how many people are looking at that lot. I prefer now to purchase singles and I decide how much I want to pay for that certain pin and go from there.

    I still trade, I'm just careful about it now and I will ask the CM to see the pin, if I feel like it might be a scrapper then I just give it back to the CM, you are not obligated to trade with CM's if you ask to see a pin. My best advice is just to learn what the tells are for scrappers (see page 1) and make your decisions based on that. Good luck with your decision.
     
  20. debranator

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    Believe it or not...
    some CM's..are getting better at spotting fakes!:thumbsup2
    The other day..while in downtown...
    1 of the younger CM's that I knew....
    [I trade a lot..and talk to them]...
    called me over to show me that she actually spotted her first fake!
    i had never seen a Sedesma pin before..
    so..I told her to get it the heck off of her lanyard..and traded her for it...
    :rotfl:
    as..I wanted it..it was an oddity..and such a blatant cheap imitation..
    that only a blind person..and not even then...:lmao:
    would not notice it..
    they are just painted..no shine....no enamel...
    very obvious....
    but...as proud as she was to have spotted it..
    I did not remind her..that she did trade for it in the first place.:scared1:
    Speaking of lots....and...actually..ANYTHING that you buy on Ebay...
    just verify..in writing from the seller if necessary...
    that the pic. of the item..is the item you will get.
    not a stock pic..or a grab bag....
    but,actual pics of what you are buying.
    a good seller will agree to this..whether there are 2 in her lot..or 100.
    a garbage seller..will always use the same pics.
     
  21. daisy 'n donald

    daisy 'n donald Mouseketeer

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    i saw quite a few pins on cm lanyards when we were there that were obviously not disney pins....they were much smaller and looked more like stickers than like pins....
    dh had gotten one and tried to trade it (i was in the ladies room when all of this transpired..he was unaware that it was fake and i explained it to him after all this happened) and the cm he tried to trade it with wouldn't take it because it didn't say disney on the back...
    we saw a lot like it later and he asked one cm if that was a real disney pin, she took it off of her lanyard, looked at it and realized it wasn't..
    there were quite a few of them out there
     

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