mom2mickeyfan
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We were at wdw a month ago and had a CM say that they affectionately call the magic bands 'tragic bands'.
We were at wdw a month ago and had a CM say that they affectionately call the magic bands 'tragic bands'.
I really hope that those of you testing the FP+ and saying you would NEVER have agreed to test it if you were truly limited to 3 FP a day (which is everyone in this thread I believe) are telling Disney that! Disney needs to know that being limited to 3 is NOT an improvement.
For some reason Disney believes that everyone LOVES this new system and I expect its because people aren't letting Disney know that if they weren't able to use the legacy system they would NOT be happy.
Nobody said participating in MB testing didn't have it's qualms, I am just saying there is a major advantage to participating in MB testing right as long as you can use both FP systems. That's not a level playing field.
The positives of using both FP systems definitely outweigh the negatives, which is the reason so many people LOVE the testing and so many more wouldn't even consider it if they couldn't use the paper FP system.
I really hope that those of you testing the FP+ and saying you would NEVER have agreed to test it if you were truly limited to 3 FP a day (which is everyone in this thread I believe) are telling Disney that! Disney needs to know that being limited to 3 is NOT an improvement.
For some reason Disney believes that everyone LOVES this new system and I expect its because people aren't letting Disney know that if they weren't able to use the legacy system they would NOT be happy.
Disney knows this. Spent dinner with an imagineer and we talked ... I should only say the subject came up.
The reason fp+ is limited to just 3 per day is BECAUSE the legacy system is still in operation. The new system will be a complete replacement for the old system with passes that can be booked in advance and additional passes loaded as needed at the park. Expect the number of advanced passes to be increased to 5-9 per day depending on park hours, park size, etc.
They can't roll it out in full bloom because they haven't sunset the old system yet. That's why this is a test.
5-9 FP+ per day would be prefect. Would love to occassionally sleep in on vacation.
The positives of using both FP systems definitely outweigh the negatives, which is the reason so many people LOVE the testing and so many more wouldn't even consider it if they couldn't use the paper FP system.
Does double dipping with a ticket and KTW card still work?
That really would be perfect. We go during off-season (Sept-Oct) so there are really only a few rides we need FPs for anyway.
I do wish that you could have more than one FP+ in an hour. That was a real problem for us when we were there last week. We only went to the parks in the mornings, and sometimes had to "waste" a FP+ because there wasn't enough time to schedule it. Half hour time slots would have worked much better for us, but I suppose some people would have trouble keeping to a window narrower than a full hour.
5-9 is impossible, unless they are tiered, and 2-6 of them are for Pirates, Philharmagic!, CoP, etc.
Jason
How many paper fp do most people pull in a day? Or not most people ... rather how many would the average family who presently intends to utilize the fp system to its full potential. Right? Not power users per se, but a family that knows how the current system works and at least tries to use it as much as possible. Say, for a day in MK?
Somewhere between 5-9?
I really don't know. But this figure seems about right to me and its where the number would have to be in order to directly replace the current system. And suppose that only some of these are booked in advance. Others would be automatically generated for complimentary attractions. Still others could require in park request on the day of use. All three of these systems are live and testing now.
The benefit for disney is that it allow some pretty powerful traffic 'shaping'. Lets them control shopping traffic and line waits for everyone by balancing the traffic of those using the fp+ system.
The average was 3, that's where it came from. Turbo users, like the VAST majority of Disers, got many more. Idiots got none. Disney is going to limit everyone to three, and pick them for the idiots.
There will be very few left for good rides. Math doesn't lie.
The average was 3, that's where it came from. Turbo users, like the VAST majority of Disers, got many more. Idiots got none. Disney is going to limit everyone to three, and pick them for the idiots.
There will be very few left for good rides. Math doesn't lie.
Jason
I let Disney know all of this in my post-trip survey. I can only hope they are listening to us.
What kind of survey do you get? Does Disney email you? We tested last month but never received anything.
Maybe you can email IT and have them send you the survey if you didn't receive one?
The average was 3, that's where it came from. Turbo users, like the VAST majority of Disers, got many more. Idiots got none. Disney is going to limit everyone to three, and pick them for the idiots.
There will be very few left for good rides. Math doesn't lie.
Jason
And when you set the system up so those who want only 1 in fact have to reserve a minimum of 3...... you get more usage.
The average was 3, that's where it came from. Turbo users, like the VAST majority of Disers, got many more. Idiots got none. Disney is going to limit everyone to three, and pick them for the idiots.
There will be very few left for good rides. Math doesn't lie.
Jason
It would seem to make so much more sense to have advance booking of 3 FP+ per day for everyone, and then let everyone pull as many more (electronic, not paper) FP as you want/can using the MB inside the parks once you are there.
The rules could remain the same as they are today as far as FP timing goes.
Yes, it still works.
However, we encountered a few CM's that were not happy with us for taking advantage of it.
A piece of advice...
Take off your magic band before approaching the paper FP machines.
You'll avoid the catty CM comments that way.
Disney knows this. Spent dinner with an imagineer and we talked ... I should only say the subject came up.
The reason fp+ is limited to just 3 per day is BECAUSE the legacy system is still in operation. The new system will be a complete replacement for the old system with passes that can be booked in advance and additional passes loaded as needed at the park. Expect the number of advanced passes to be increased to 5-9 per day depending on park hours, park size, etc.
They can't roll it out in full bloom because they haven't sunset the old system yet. That's why this is a test.