Florida Gator football lovers: A perspective on your program

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  1. DenMig

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  3. ChrisFL

    ChrisFL Disney/Universal Fan and MALE

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    I am a gator fan and I agree that half a game suspension is a bit of a joke. It should be a full game at least or more.

    I respect Urban Meyer but he made the wrong decision this time.
     
  4. AshleyW

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    What stuck out to me in that article:

    Really? THAT'S the justification for it? The poor running back is at the bottom of the pack, defenseless, and someone tries gouging his eyes out - and then the justification is that they were playing dirty too? Please. Grow up. :sad2:

    ETA: I think they linked to it in the article, but just so people don't have to search for it, here's the video. The gouging starts at about 6 seconds in. http://www.youtube.com/user/s144700#p/a/0/cISxU8Crulw
     
  5. mmackeymouse

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    No the heck kidding. What a stand up Christian guy, eh? A real Crusader for Christ.

    Listen, no one knows another person's heart, and I know he has done some great Mission work. But, sometimes Christian men and women have to stand up to those closest to them in real, everyday situations. It's not always about being flashy about being a Christian; but a real leader, Christian or otherwise, would have used this opportunity to say that, "No this is not okay. This is not how we play ball around here. I am disappointed in his actions."

    But Tebow's reaction? Not much for turning the other cheek.

    Look up Sam Bradford or Colt McCoy's "I am Second" videos on Youtube. Now, those are real men of the Lord.
     
  6. lillygator

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    whatever (with the big W using both hands).....
    and SB is a team quitter....christian?? yeah....
     
  7. lillygator

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    makes me wonder how close any of you posters have been to the field to actually see what goes on.....it's the few moments that are caught....
     
  8. AshleyW

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    At a Florida game? Never. But I've been front row at Iowa games several times. :thumbsup2 I understand playing a little dirty, and I've seen it. But eye gouging? Really? Not only that, but getting caught and then only getting a half a game suspension - THAT's the part that's ridiculous.
     
  9. lillygator

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    what should his punishment be? Did you see what was done to him first?

    holy heck, unless you have experienced it close up, this crap goes on ALL the time, punches in the ribs after the whistle, kicks, knee jabs, you name and like siblings fighting, it is usually the one defending themselves that are caught. Was what Spikes did acceptable, hell no, he is hurt anyway and should sit against Vandy, I just hate people speaking of crap like this....so stupid, "christian" or not, most all players do this. be a water girl or a line holder on the field and you will see much much more that is not caught on tape. and for the s talking about Tebow, well that is pretty darn crappy.
     
  10. lillygator

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    GAINESVILLE, Fla. -- Top-ranked Florida will be without star linebacker Brandon Spikes for the first half of Saturday's game against Vanderbilt.

    Coach Urban Meyer suspended Spikes on Monday, two days after the defensive captain apparently attempted to gouge the eyes of Georgia running back Washaun Ealey in a 41-17 victory.

    "I don't condone that," Meyer said. "I understand what goes on on the football [field], but there's no place for that. We're going to suspend Brandon for the first half of the Vanderbilt game. I spoke with him. That's not who he is. That's not who we are. He got caught up in emotion."

    Spikes issued a statement apologizing for what he did.


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    "I accept responsibility for my actions and I accept the consequences of my actions," he said. "I would like to apologize to my team and the coaching staff and Washaun Ealey. Football is a very physical and emotional game, but there is no excuse for my actions."

    Meyer's wife mentioned Spikes' actions to him Sunday night, then defensive coordinator Charlie Strong did the same Monday morning. Meyer's said his first reaction was to move on. Then he saw a replay of the incident, which shows Spikes shoving his glove-covered right hand into Ealey's facemask and moving it back and forth.

    Meyer then spoke to Spikes and determined he was retaliating after getting his helmet ripped off and eye poked earlier in the game. Meyer also talked to Southeastern Conference commissioner Mike Slive, but Florida officials said it was Meyer's decision to suspend Spikes.

    "We understand the game of football," Meyer said. "Some of us have played it. Very emotional things happened in that game in particular that were not good for either side, but the bottom line is we're Florida and he's Brandon Spikes and we expect certain things. He understands."

    The SEC issued a statement saying it reviewed and accepted the discipline handed down by Florida.

    The Florida-Georgia game was filled with chippy behavior, with pushing, shoving, five personal-foul penalties -- three against Georgia and two against Florida -- and plenty of smack-talking.




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    Florida coach Urban Meyer got it half right by suspending senior linebacker Brandon Spikes for the first half of this Saturday's game against Vanderbilt. ESPN.com's Chris Low explains. Blog
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    Officials even gathered Florida quarterback Tim Tebow and Georgia linebacker Marcus Dowtin together in the second quarter and warned them things were getting out of hand.

    "I don't think that we did anything in that game that they didn't do," Tebow said Monday. "If you go back and look at it and study it, you can see it in the film, too. It was an intense game, both teams were very passionate about it."
    Spikes is fourth on the team with 42 tackles and has three sacks.

    He considered entering the NFL draft in January, but decided to return for his senior season in hopes of helping Florida win a third national title in four years.

    But he's battled injuries all season. He missed time early in the season because of an Achilles tendon injury, and sat out most of two games because of a strained groin. He played only a series against Arkansas on Oct. 17 and sat out the entire game the following week.

    He returned against Georgia and finished with a team-high 10 tackles. He also intercepted a pass and returned it 5 yards for a touchdown in the fourth quarter.

    "He's very intense and very emotional and very passionate," Tebow said. "I think that's what makes him part of the great player that he is because he brings that fire. People look at him and the defense wants to play for him. The offense, they want to score so it makes it easier on him.

    "He brings fire and he brings juice to everybody. Without that, he would not be as great of a player as he is, and he would not be even close to the leader that he is."


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    nice to only post partial.
     
  11. lillygator

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    2-6, looking for something to do? Ole Zookie can't cut it.....he was a great recruiter. Coach, not so much.
     
  12. JoBird

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    Brandon was wrong for what he did, yes. UM should have susupended him for more than 1/2 of the Vandy game, yes.

    Many Florida fans will agree to that. :confused3

    To start a thread, hoping for a fight from us is silly. We don't like unsportsmanlike conduct from our players any more than the opposing team does.

    All it does is add fuel to the fire for all the people that love to hate us so.

    It's unfortunate, though, that people are like rabid dogs, waiting for Tebow to do something, say something so that they can attack his Christian character. How judgmental.

    What wasn't said by Timmy and the rest of the media was that before that play, Tim had to go to the sidelines to squirt water in his eyes because a Georgia player had done the exact same thing to him. He ran to the sideline because he couldn't see. We watched it over and over again during the game, before the Brandon incident. The player was on top of him, with his hand wrapped around his helmet, grasping down inside.

    Football is ugly. The FL/GA game is one of the most intense rivalries in all of college football.
    It isn't ever a decent, nice, "Let's get together for tea and crumpets" type game. The players- from both sides- get passionate about it. And things are done in the heat of the moment that shouldn't be.

    UM has given the punishment, Brandon has apologized, the SEC and Slive have okayed it.
     
  13. Uuaww

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    Brandon Spikes will make a perfect draft pick for my Oakland Raiders. Hopefully he'll take Tebow with him.
     
  14. mhsjax

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    Let me just say, that this couldn't have happened to a nicer team. Man, I hate the Gators so much, that I am considering moving out of the state of Florida, just so my kids won't be tempted to go there. And if for some reason we are still here and they want to go there, then they will have to pay for it themselves. Ok Rant over. Flame away, I can take it, and I know that MOST Florida fans wont have any negative talk about their beloved team without going off in a huff.
     
  15. Rora

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    Agreed.

    And please don't pull the Christian card. Wow.
     
  16. RadioNate

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    Well now you've gone and done it. You've insulted the second coming. Hope you have a flame suit. :rotfl:
     
  17. ICF

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    Even if he's "crucified" on a message board, he'll still rise in 3 days.....although the really JC, preached turning the other cheek and not they did it to us so it's ok we did it to them.

    Urbie and his team aren't nearly as clean and perfect as the UF fans make them out to be. To suspend the player for the 1st half is a joke. At a MINIMUM it should have been a full game. 1H against Vandy....wow that is tough. What if he had done real damage to the guy he tried to hurt, think he would have gotten 3 quarters?
     
  18. Karibeth19

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    Excuse me??? Bradford is a team quitter????? Not a Christian??? I'll give that my own "whatever" (Using both hands!) I understand you must hate OU, but that was a very judgemental statement to make. Percy Harvin left Florida early for the NFL; do you consider him a "team quitter"?

    Sam was a possible number one draft pick last year, which would have meant an insane amount of money in the NFL. Did he choose that path? No! He decided to return to school, and continue to live his dream of playing for the University of Oklahoma. Now, after injuring his shoulder twice and having season ending surgery, his NFL future is in jeopardy, and he has chosen to focus on that future rather than risk further injury by returning for his senior season. Everyone in the program, from Stoops, to Castiglione, to his teammates unanimously agreed that that would be the best decision he could make and support him fully. It was NOT an easy decision for him to make, and I do not understand how being concerned for his health and future makes him less of a Christian???

    I don't like Florida, and I really don't like Texas, but I think Tebow and McCoy are upstanding young men, and would never judge them harshly if they were in the same position as Sam. Actually, anyone who knows football knows that it was the smart decision to make, considering the injury, and fans should be thankful it was not their QB's being forced to make that decision so early in the season.

    I love college football as much as anyone, and get very emotionally involved. But in the end, it is a game, played by young men who, for the most part, are good people. Mistakes are made, especially in the heat of the moment, such as in the Spikes case. But, just because a player plays for a rival team, that doesn't automatically make them a bad person, and they don't deserve to have their decisions or their Christianity questioned so harshly. That's taking it too far, IMO.
     
  19. jodifla

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    Too bad. You'll be denying your kids the opportunity of the best education in Florida.

    All this Gator hater stuff is so silly.
     
  20. lillygator

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    By JOE HENDERSON | The Tampa Tribune

    Published: November 2, 2009

    Updated: 07:52 am

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    I 'm sure by now you've seen the video clip of Florida Gators linebacker and defensive captain Brandon Spikes poking his fingers inside the helmet of Georgia running back Washaun Ealey during a scrum Saturday. It is "must-click TV" in cyberspace.

    To the casual observer it looks like Spikes was trying to rip Ealey's eyeballs out of their sockets, which I suppose he probably was.

    Bad Brandon.

    Bad, bad Brandon.

    He shouldn't have done that. His head coach, Urban Meyer, didn't think he should have done that either. You can't go around trying to poke out the eye of another player, even if he is from Georgia. On Monday, Meyer suspended Spikes for the first half of Saturday's game against Vanderbilt.

    Thus ends Florida's chance to repeat as national champion.

    I'm just kidding.

    Back away from the e-mail program. Remove your hand from the "send" button. Meyer gave a proportional response. It's a two-bit punishment for a two-bit offense, and that's just as it should be. Given the same situation, no coach in America would have been any tougher. I understand not everyone will agree with that.

    For those who want to take this as the latest evidence that Meyer is soft on crime, though, consider this: If you suspend every player who gouged, pulled, poked or otherwise did things they aren't supposed to during pileups, there would be no games played. We'd all have to spend Saturdays raking leaves.

    That doesn't make what Spikes did right, but it's also the way the game is played.

    Earlier in the game, Georgia got one of its three personal fouls when a player ripped Spikes' helmet off. Meyer said Spikes complained that his eye was poked during the exchange, which it probably was. Spikes' biggest mistake was forgetting that when you play for a program like Florida, nothing goes unnoticed on the football field and people are always going to talk.

    Once the chatter started, Meyer had to do something. Spikes seems to understand that.

    "I accept responsibility for my actions and I accept the consequences of my actions. I would like to apologize to my team and the coaching staff and Washaun Ealey," he said in a statement. "Football is a very physical and emotional game, but there is no excuse for my actions."

    Old-timers would laugh at the notion of Spikes being docked even a half-game for something like this. The stories of biting, punching and gouging at the bottom of a pile are a standard part of football lore and it has been that way since the first guys put on a pair of shoulder pads.

    I suspect Meyer didn't want to do anything, to tell you the truth, but once the cameras caught Spikes in the act he probably didn't have a choice.

    "We understand the game of football," Meyer told reporters in Gainesville. "Some of us have played it. Very emotional things happened in that game in particular that were not good for either side, but the bottom line is we're Florida and he's Brandon Spikes and we expect certain things. He understands."

    That's the right perspective. I love rushing to judgment as much as anyone, but I just can't get worked up about this. I certainly can't come close to agreeing with ESPN talking head (and former NFL player) Mike Golic, who called it a "classless, unsportsmanlike move."

    That's a bit harsh.

    It certainly wasn't sportsmanlike, but very little that goes on during a Florida-Georgia game would fit that description. It wasn't sportsmanlike when Georgia rushed the field after scoring a touchdown two years ago. It wasn't sportsmanlike when Meyer retaliated last year by calling a pair of timeouts in the final minute of a lopsided win.

    But classless? Please.

    It was just football.

    Brandon Spikes got caught. He pays the price.

    Move on.
     
  21. lillygator

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    he has already quit his team in his mind and actions? Heck no PH is no quitter! The "christian" was what some poster put as a dig on TEBOW, Bradford can't hold a candle to him off the field. That poster was saying half a quote from Tebow and saying basically he wasn't christiab. And no I don't hate OU at all!
     

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