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OMG!!! Sign me up!!!!!! I REALLY can't wait to hear that this is official!!!
Vancouver works for one-way cruises to Alaska. And other cruise lines use either Vancouver or Ensenada, Mexico for the foreign port for Hawaiian cruises now. I don't see why DCL couldn't just include a jog to Ensenada for it's Mexico to Hawaii leg, and then Vancouver for the Hawaii to Alaska leg.The same Star Advertiser article was discussed here back in June 2010 when it was first published:
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2487253
Disney's tentative bookings at Pier 2 in Honolulu Harbor in May and September of 2012 suggest that Honolulu may be a stop for the repositioning cruises between the Disney Wonder's Alaska cruises out of Vancouver in the warmer months and Mexican Riviera cruises out of Los Angeles in the colder months.
The newspaper writer speculated:
"For example, Disney could offer a land-and-sea vacation package combining a cruise with a stay at its 840-room Ko Olina project. Aulani, a Disney Resort & Spa, is on track to open in the fall of 2011."But that's really not a realistic option. The cruise could not originate or terminate in Honolulu if the other end of the cruise was Los Angeles or another U.S. port. The writer failed to consider U.S. law. Foreign-registered ships like the Disney Wonder cannot legally offer ONE-WAY cruises between two U.S. ports without going to a DISTANT foreign port as part of the itinerary. Nearby ports in Canada and Mexico do not qualify.
Disney has tentative bookings at Pier 2 in Honolulu Harbor in May and September of 2012
Here is the link:
http://www.staradvertiser.com/business/20100613_The_Wonder_of_Disney.html
Vancouver works for one-way cruises to Alaska. And other cruise lines use either Vancouver or Ensenada, Mexico for the foreign port for Hawaiian cruises now. I don't see why DCL couldn't just include a jog to Ensenada for it's Mexico to Hawaii leg, and then Vancouver for the Hawaii to Alaska leg.
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Ensenada is not a "distant foreign port," as defined by the the Passenger Vessel Services Act (PVSA) of 1886.Vancouver works for one-way cruises to Alaska. And other cruise lines use either Vancouver or Ensenada, Mexico for the foreign port for Hawaiian cruises now. I don't see why DCL couldn't just include a jog to Ensenada for it's Mexico to Hawaii leg, and then Vancouver for the Hawaii to Alaska leg.
Ensenada is a perfect way to handle the foreign port requirement of the PVSA for a CLOSED-LOOP cruise that begins and terminates in the same U.S. city.Other cruise lines fo as you say. My parents a couple of years ago did a round trip on Princess from here in L.A. The only forgin port was a one hour stop in Ensenada before they got back here to L.A. If they do Vancuver to L.A. Via HI in Sept. I will be on.
Ensenada is not a "distant foreign port," as defined by the the Passenger Vessel Services Act (PVSA) of 1886.
To offer ONE-WAY service from Honolulu to Los Angeles, the ship would have to "jog" to someplace like South America.
Ensenada is a perfect way to handle the foreign port requirement of the PVSA for a CLOSED-LOOP cruise that begins and terminates in the same U.S. city.
But Ensenada does not satisfy the DISTANT foreign port requirement of the PVSA for a ONE-WAY voyage (one the begins in one U.S. port and terminates in another).
The issue here is whether Disney can offer land-sea packages involving the Aulani.
Because the PVSA treats closed-loop and one-way cruises differently.Then explain why Princess cruises can go round trip from Los Angeles and only has Ensanada as it's only port of call?
Because it is round-trip. The rules are different for round trips.Then explain why Princess cruises can go round trip from Los Angeles and only has Ensanada as it's only port of call?
I agree. The DISTANT port requirement comes into play when the voyage begins in one U.S. port and ends in another.But I don't see anything in the Passenger Vessel Services Act that says that if you start or end in a foreign port that it needs to be distant.
I bet the Hawaii stops will be made on the way to, and back from cruises to Australia, New Zealand and the south pacific, or maybe Japan.
great, but are you willing to take out a loan from the bank too pay for it though b/c I'm sure it will have a bigg price tag.....$$$$$$$$$.....
So true. I remember hearing folks say "If they offer Alaska, I am there". Then the prices came out and then I heard complaining about the cost but no booking.
Same with the Northern Baltic. When the price came out, there were a lot of folks changing their minds.
I am sure that IF DCL goes to Hawaii, it will be the most expensive cruise yet.
As far as Asia or Tahiti goes, that will be after they would do Hawaii.