just bought into the DVC lots of questions

bumbershoot said:
Alternatively he forgot that this was posted.
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He has read this thread since his posting.

And I am appalled that some of you have now followed him to the other posting and giving unsolicited advice again.

Why is it so hard for some of you just to answer the questions asked?
 
TiggerBouncy said:
I would have too. It's a shame - there are smart experienced people here with a lot of good useful information to share. But I think they have become jaded. I wish those people would regroup and take a break from responding to posts as they are causing more harm than help. Come back after a break with more willingness to be helpful.
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The only ones causing harm are the ones saying to ignore the experienced people. The OP could cancel and buy back tomorrow. What is the "harm" in that? On the other hand, if they listen to the other people and realize later that it isn't for them, there is a lot of harm done.
 
DisDadDVC said:
The only ones causing harm are the ones saying to ignore the experienced people. The OP could cancel and buy back tomorrow. What is the "harm" in that? On the other hand, if they listen to the other people and realize later that it isn't for them, there is a lot of harm done.
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No one is saying ignore them, no has said that at all. But what gives everyone the right to literally stalk this guy with unsolicited advice. Don't you think he is capable of asking for it, if he wants it.

I am sorry to me this is very much bullying.
 
Sammie said:
No one is saying ignore them, no has said that at all. But what gives everyone the right to literally stalk this guy with unsolicited advice. Don't you think he is capable of asking for it, if he wants it.

I am sorry to me this is very much bullying.
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That is exactly what was said:

"However - to the OP - please do not listen to some of the downers here."

Bullying? Don't be ridiculous. Show me ONE post that isn't trying to be helpful.
Unsolicited advice? Don't be ridiculous. The OP came here for advice.

from the OP:

"so like I said anything anyone can through my way I would greatly appreciate it"
 


DisDadDVC said:
That is exactly what was said:

"However - to the OP - please do not listen to some of the downers here."

Bullying? Don't be ridiculous. Show me ONE post that isn't trying to be helpful.
Unsolicited advice? Don't be ridiculous. The OP came here for advice.

from the OP:

"so like I said anything anyone can through my way I would greatly appreciate it"
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He did not come here for the advice given. I mean if someone comes to DVC Resorts and asks about Hilton Head are you going to flood them with advice about Aulani. I don't think so. He did not ask purchasing questions, he asked Resort planning questions. Some of you just took it upon yourselves to assume he has no sense.

And please do not quote, quotes to me that are not mine.

This what the OP asked for, so Im looking for any advice tips the dos and donts--anything that could help us plan this trip.

Not once does he mention he would like to discuss purchasing DVC.

When others continue to follow this guy to another forum and yet again share advice he is not asking for, then yes I consider that being a bully. He is quite capable on his own to ask for help. He read this thread. When he posted the new on in MISC. don't you think if he wanted to discuss his purchase he would have mentioned that?
 
Sammie said:
He has read this thread since his posting.

And I am appalled that some of you have now followed him to the other posting and giving unsolicited advice again.

Why is it so hard for some of you just to answer the questions asked?
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Being defensive against what some, although not all, feel as reasonable advice is not coming from the OP and the tone change came from other sources. I don't agree with the thought to just ignore other possibilities but that is fine if some wish to recommend that. It's advice, that is all.
 
KAT4DISNEY said:
Being defensive against what some, although not all, feel as reasonable advice is not coming from the OP and the tone change came from other sources. I don't agree with the thought to just ignore other possibilities but that is fine if some wish to recommend that. It's advice, that is all.
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Don't you think though if he wanted to pursue the discussion of his purchase he would have come back here, rather than leave and try to start over, only for the same unsolicited advice to be given to him again?

Don't you think people should be allowed to ask for help planning a trip without getting the rest?
 


Sammie said:
He did not come here for the advice given. I mean if someone comes to DVC Resorts and asks about Hilton Head are you going to flood them with advice about Aulani. I don't think so. He did not ask purchasing questions, he asked Resort planning questions. Some of you just took it upon yourselves to assume he has no sense.

And please do not quote, quotes to me that are not mine.

This what the OP asked for, so Im looking for any advice tips the dos and donts--anything that could help us plan this trip.

Not once does he mention he would like to discuss purchasing DVC.

When others continue to follow this guy to another forum and yet again share advice he is not asking for, then yes I consider that being a bully. He is quite capable on his own to ask for help. He read this thread. When he posted the new on in MISC. don't you think if he wanted to discuss his purchase he would have mentioned that?
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Why not? You specifically said:

"No one is saying ignore them, no has said that at all."

And I showed you a quote of someone saying exactly that. What is the problem with that?
 
DisDadDVC said:
Why not? You specifically said:

"No one is saying ignore them, no has said that at all."

And I showed you a quote of someone saying exactly that. What is the problem with that?
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Fine, I guess I should have said, I did not say ignore them but you know ignoring them might be good advice. :)
 
Sammie said:
Don't you think though if he wanted to pursue the discussion of his purchase he would have come back here, rather than leave and try to start over, only for the same unsolicited advice to be given to him again?

Don't you think people should be allowed to ask for help planning a trip without getting the rest?
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Yes, and lots of people do that.

And I've also shared my concern with that first post which hasn't altered. There was nothing else from the OP to know if they were reading or not. It also didn't change with their second post when that came although I didn't even connect at that time but we don't all watch or catch on to every posters every message.
 
<Sigh> I just think that this could and should have been handled much better. reading some of the posts made here by some of you would have turned me off of being a DVC member at all. And that would have been a terrible loss for my entire family and all of our friends who we have helped to share our love of Disney because of our membership.

just because someone is new, doesn't mean they didn't understand what they were getting. You automatically assumed new is ignorant. But being new and being ignorant are different things altogether.
 
Pretty much moving forward, anyone who is new and doesn't seem informed will be pounded with advice to cancel. IMO, I'm not their financial planner, I'm not their attorney and I don't know their situation.

In 1999 I purchased Boardwalk direct. In 2015 I looked to buy secondary market BLT but for reasons that worked for us I purchased direct at Poly in August (there was no secondary at that point for Poly). There were number of reasons that worked for us from my wife loving Poly, to studio size, to fitting 5, monorail resort, contract end date, timing.

Back in 1999 if I had cancelled due to someone I didn't know recommending I cancel until I understood DVC better, I would be regretting that forever. Doesn't mean your advice is wrong, just not asked for.
 
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_auroraborealis_ said:
I don't think anyone here doesn't maintain that they're his points to use, because, obviously, they are. We simply urge understanding the value trade-off being made.

We also all know very well that Disney DVC sales guides have no incentive to tell people about resale, about the ability to get points at the resorts some individuals really want to stay at, and have seen a large number of emotional decisions report to the DVC forums to ask how they can "trade" their home resort because they didn't want studios at all, really, and now they own at Poly, or they own at Aulani and won't go to Hawaii save once in the next 20 years. Disney guides also overstate 7-month availability for many room types and resorts.

Recovery from cancer is, of itself, a hugely emotional time. If he bought direct, he has 10 days to rescind if his DVC purchase was also emotional, and if in his heart he hopes to be renting 2BR units and bringing the extended family for years to come.
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See I totally disagree. the value of the points are any vacation are way more than financial. First of all, how in the name of all that is holy can you assume what their emotional state is?

I sold my house the year after my husband died, I heard all the same "crap". how emotionally "unstable" I was, how I'll regret moving. Pul-leeze. moving was the best thing I did in a very long time. Now I'm getting the same song and dance because I'm retiring at 57.

Op, I use my points all over the place. I've used them for the luxury hotel side, I've used them for Vero beach and I plan to use them on my disney cruise. Is it the best use of my points? hummm yeah. I'm using the points for a vacation, which is why I brought them.

I also brought direct. never heard of dvc resale nor these boards, so I guess I was a dummie who didn't due her "due diligence" either. Not sure I would have done it either on the advice of a perfect stranger.

LOL, I also not sure I understand the "no emotion". who the heck buys into a vacation place without loving it??? Timeshares are not investment vehicles. Yeah, my purchase was pretty emotional. I feel in love with Disney and knew I wanted to visit for years to come. I went to a seminar, got the cost, went home and figured out if we could afford it according to our lifestyle, then purchased.


To answer your questions.

!) no your stays do not have to be sunday to sunday. they can be in any configuration you want. I own at the Beach club. I own enough points to stay in a one bedroom for 6 nights. I have rented two bedrooms for family reunions. really not that hard, I either borrow from the next year or I throw some cash at the situation. We just had a big family reunion to celebrate my aunts 100 year birthday. I rented a 2 bedroom villa at the Boardwalk. no problems
 
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Sammie said:
As the OP had not come back, we don't know yet if they were frightened off. I know all of you mean well but to someone new it can be somewhat intimating. And yet again just the like the Using DVC Points Outside of DVC thread, we are never going to agree what is a good financial choice. To me even discussing DVC and good financial choices in the same sentence is an oxymoron.
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lol, I love how folks can somehow from one post assume they made a huge "emotional" mistake.
 
eliza61 said:
See I totally disagree. the value of the points are any vacation are way more than financial. First of all, how in the name of all that is holy can you assume what their emotional state is?

I sold my house the year after my husband died, I heard all the same "crap". how emotionally "unstable" I was, how I'll regret moving. Pul-leeze. moving was the best thing I did in a very long time. Now I'm getting the same song and dance because I'm retiring at 57.

Op, I use my points all over the place. I've used them for the luxury hotel side, I've used them for Vero beach and I plan to use them on my disney cruise. Is it the best use of my points? hummm yeah. I'm using the points for a vacation, which is why I brought them.

I also brought direct. never heard of dvc resale nor these boards, so I guess I was a dummie who didn't due her "due diligence" either. Not sure I would have done it either on the advice of a perfect stranger.

LOL, I also not sure I understand the "no emotion". who the heck buys into a vacation place without loving it??? Timeshares are not investment vehicles. Yeah, my purchase was pretty emotional. I feel in love with Disney and knew I wanted to visit for years to come. I went to a seminar, got the cost, went home and figured out if we could afford it according to our lifestyle, then purchased.
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I like you. Will you be my new best friend? :bounce:

Okay, okay... Maybe not BEST friend. My wife might get a little upset at that. But still. You get my point!
 
Sammie said:
He did not come here for the advice given. I mean if someone comes to DVC Resorts and asks about Hilton Head are you going to flood them with advice about Aulani. I don't think so. He did not ask purchasing questions, he asked Resort planning questions. Some of you just took it upon yourselves to assume he has no sense.

And please do not quote, quotes to me that are not mine.

This what the OP asked for, so Im looking for any advice tips the dos and donts--anything that could help us plan this trip.

Not once does he mention he would like to discuss purchasing DVC.

When others continue to follow this guy to another forum and yet again share advice he is not asking for, then yes I consider that being a bully. He is quite capable on his own to ask for help. He read this thread. When he posted the new on in MISC. don't you think if he wanted to discuss his purchase he would have mentioned that?
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While I agree I wish I would have had more information from experienced DVC'ers before I bought BLT direct back in 2009...nobody wants to be told how awful their purchase decision was directly thereafter the purchase. It's like saying "Hey you don't have buyers remorse because you don't know any better, so let me give you some!" And your right...OP never asked for advice on his DVC purchase.
 
I bought resale bc of the forums-- if there were no forums, I probably would have been too scared to buy resale and either bought direct or not at all.

We were so scared of getting scammed out 5 figures but this forum helped assuage those fears. We still almost backed out and cancelled our cc deposit, worried that the resale company was not legit (fidelity). We ended up resubmitting our deposit-- A huge thank you to those who helped me 5 years ago.

My brother also just bought resale at SSR-- he was so scared of sending a certified check to the title company, worried about getting scammed. My constant reassurance assuaged his fears.

This forum, and the collective experience, is incredibly helpful. Saved me tens of thousands of dollars, as well as peace of mind. I don't consider it bullying to tell someone to back out of a direct sale if they can -- one can easily ignore the advice or even state "it's not for me" calmly, and then the issue wpuld disappear.
 
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I'd like to add- my older sister bought direct in 2009- BLT. She wishes she had bwv or bcv now instead since that's the only area she stays (cash and dvc).

For someone like my sister, she would ONLY buy direct- even if it's an older resort like bwv or bcv. She believes in paying a premium bc that's considered "better" in terms of prestige. Of course, we are talking about someone who has a few Hermes bags, drives luxury cars only, and changes her car every 2 years, and has a motto "if it costs more, then it's probably better".

For someone like my sister, she would calmly state that she prefers the no hassle of direct and the higher prestige factor. If someone came out and told he thats stupid, and insisted she was wrong in her choices, despite her saying she chose otherwise, then that would be bullying.

That has not happened here.
 
suebeelin said:
I'd like to add- my older sister bought direct in 2009- BLT. She wishes she had bwv or bcv now instead since that's the only area she stays (cash and dvc).

For someone like my sister, she would ONLY buy direct- even if it's an older resort like bwv or bcv. She believes in paying a premium bc that's considered "better" in terms of prestige. Of course, we are talking about someone who has a few Hermes bags, drives luxury cars only, and changes her car every 2 years, and has a motto "if it costs more, then it's probably better".

For someone like my sister, she would calmly state that she prefers the no hassle of direct and the higher prestige factor. If someone came out and told he thats stupid, and insisted she was wrong in her choices, despite her saying she chose otherwise, then that would be bullying.

That has not happened here.
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REALLY???

Let's see, what would you consider telling them to "cancel their contract", "go back and do their due diligence" or "you are too emotional from cancer treatment"?? i would multi quote but I'm on my phone and it's a little difficult.


Let me ask you, if you were face to face with a stranger at the dvc center and they asked you about "tips" on how to use the DVC would you say some of the stuff posted here?

Lol, if a perfect stranger told me to cancel my purchase because I was too emotional for any reason. I'd tell them that unless they are sleeping with me, mind their business. My husband would have straight up told them to go ____ themselves. something anatomically impossible.

Op did not ask for opinions on his mental state nor whether or not his purchase was wise. He/she is about to take a vacation and wanted some tips. Period.

Ok so in the interest of discussions, this is what I would consider tips.

1) you don't get housekeeping every day
2) things about the resort (I don't know about the POly so I can't give examples)
3) You can buy a few extra points if you need them (and I've owned since 2001 and just found this out last August, do does that mean I should not have purchased either?)

Things I don't consider tips.
1) telling me I was too emotional because my husband died from cancer, I should cancel my sale.
2) telling me to cancel because I don't know how every thing concerning dvc works.
 
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