Anyone else miss the challenge of the old fast passes?

mom2rtk · Mar 5, 2015

Cormoran said:
Oh yes, I had the park of the day selected way before our trip started, but if we rolled out of bed and for some reason decided to go someplace else we could. We didn't lose our FP's for the day. Now that's not so easy if you want headliner attractions.

Yeah. What she said.

Cormoran · Mar 5, 2015

lauradis said:
Im sorry.

You are the exception to the rule. Most of the people I see planning on here do plan which park which day, way in advance of the 60 day fp+ mark.

I can only speak for myself, but I never had to plan as rigidly with Legacy as I do with FP+. I never planned what park I was visiting further than 1 week out, because my plans were based on the weather forecasts in conjunction with the crowd calendar. However, we changed our plans throughout our visits with no problems. Also, no park hoppers and no ADR's. So am I also lying about my past visits?

mom2rtk · Mar 5, 2015

lauradis said:
You dont have to like FP+, but its here to stay for while.

I still would prefer to sell front of the line passes just like the dark side to onsite guest, DVC and AP only.

I don't think anyone has said any different. Although some of us are perhaps hoping for some "refinements".

JimmyV · Mar 5, 2015

Lisa loves Pooh said:
The tickets were unchanged.

The written rule was never ever modified.

Are you suggesting that the tickets always contained the statement that late arrivals could not be accommodated? If so, that is simply not true. FastPasses did not always say that.

Angel Ariel · Mar 5, 2015

lauradis said:
You dont have to like FP+, but its here to stay for while.

Which is why I've adapted how we plan and tour now. I'm making the best of it. :confused3

AustinTink · Mar 5, 2015

A conversation I had with a friend today, reminded me of this and the many other FP threads. My friend has never been to WDW, she has two teen daughters. She just found out that one daughter will be playing in a tournament in Orlando this July. She is staying in a rental condo with other players and moms. Off-hand she said, "Since it's our first time to Orlando, we might go to Disney for a day."

Here's how the rest of the conversation went:

Me: really? what are your dates?
her: July x-x (4 days over a weekend)
me: which day will you go to Disney
her: depends on when they get eliminated
me: so you would just want to buy tickets at the gate, since you won't know until the night before?
her: yeah
me: you know Disney has a reservation system for everything now not just dining, it's for rides too. The system allows people to reserve rides and attractions at the 30 or 60-day mark depending on whether they stay on Disney property or not. The reservation is for a thing called fastpass, which helps you skip the long lines.
her: you have to reserve the rides?
me: you don't have to, you can do the standby lines which might be long for the popular rides in the summer. You can reserve rides after you buy your tickets at the gate and enter the park also. There are kiosks with computers for you to use. The inventory might be low at that point for popular rides.
her: how long are standby lines for popular rides?
me: in the summer they can be quite long 30 mins. to 120 minutes
her: is it like this at the other amusement park with Harry Potter?
me: Universal? the lines are long there too. The have an express pass you can buy to skip the long lines and it doesn't require any advanced reservations.
her: then that's what we will do. that other thing sounds crazy. who would want to do that?
me: lots of disney addicts like me. i know people that argue about it on the internet. i may or may not be one of them.
her: you scare me

There was more but you get the drift. To the outside, non-planner who wants to just to show up and have fun and not wait in long lines for every single ride... what is left for them? I believe my friend represents more people than you can imagine. Mega planner, disney addicts on the Dis are a tiny slice of the pie.

mom2rtk · Mar 5, 2015

AustinTink said:
A conversation I had with a friend today, reminded me of this and the many other FP threads. My friend has never been to WDW, she has two teen daughters. She just found out that one daughter will be playing in a tournament in Orlando this July. She is staying in a rental condo with other players and moms. Off-hand she said, "Since it's our first time to Orlando, we might go to Disney for a day."

Here's how the rest of the conversation went:

Me: really? what are your dates?
her: July x-x (4 days over a weekend)
me: which day will you go to Disney
her: depends on when they get eliminated
me: so you would just want to buy tickets at the gate, since you won't know until the night before?
her: yeah
me: you know Disney has a reservation system for everything now not just dining, it's for rides too. The system allows people to reserve rides and attractions at the 30 or 60-day mark depending on whether they stay on Disney property or not. The reservation is for a thing called fastpass, which helps you skip the long lines.
her: you have to reserve the rides?
me: you don't have to, you can do the standby lines which might be long for the popular rides in the summer. You can reserve rides after you buy your tickets at the gate and enter the park also. There are kiosks with computers for you to use. The inventory might be low at that point for popular rides.
her: how long are standby lines for popular rides?
me: in the summer they can be quite long 30 mins. to 120 minutes
her: is it like this at the other amusement park with Harry Potter?
me: Universal? the lines are long there too. The have an express pass you can buy to skip the long lines and it doesn't require any advanced reservations.
her: then that's what we will do. that other thing sounds crazy. who would want to do that?
me: lots of disney addicts like me. i know people that argue about it on the internet. i may or may not be one of them.
her: you scare me

There was more but you get the drift. To the outside, non-planner who wants to just to show up and have fun and not wait in long lines for every single ride... what is left for them? I believe my friend represents more people than you can imagine. Mega planner, disney addicts on the Dis are a tiny slice of the pie.

"I may or may not be one of them." :rotfl2:

I'm shocked. SHOCKED I tell you..... that someone would find the whole thing strange.

Laketravis · Mar 5, 2015

AustinTink said:
A conversation I had with a friend today, reminded me of this and the many other FP threads. My friend has never been to WDW, she has two teen daughters. She just found out that one daughter will be playing in a tournament in Orlando this July. She is staying in a rental condo with other players and moms. Off-hand she said, "Since it's our first time to Orlando, we might go to Disney for a day."

Here's how the rest of the conversation went:

Me: really? what are your dates?
her: July x-x (4 days over a weekend)
me: which day will you go to Disney
her: depends on when they get eliminated
me: so you would just want to buy tickets at the gate, since you won't know until the night before?
her: yeah
me: you know Disney has a reservation system for everything now not just dining, it's for rides too. The system allows people to reserve rides and attractions at the 30 or 60-day mark depending on whether they stay on Disney property or not. The reservation is for a thing called fastpass, which helps you skip the long lines.
her: you have to reserve the rides?
me: you don't have to, you can do the standby lines which might be long for the popular rides in the summer. You can reserve rides after you buy your tickets at the gate and enter the park also. There are kiosks with computers for you to use. The inventory might be low at that point for popular rides.
her: how long are standby lines for popular rides?
me: in the summer they can be quite long 30 mins. to 120 minutes
her: is it like this at the other amusement park with Harry Potter?
me: Universal? the lines are long there too. The have an express pass you can buy to skip the long lines and it doesn't require any advanced reservations.
her: then that's what we will do. that other thing sounds crazy. who would want to do that?
me: lots of disney addicts like me. i know people that argue about it on the internet. i may or may not be one of them.
her: you scare me

There was more but you get the drift. To the outside, non-planner who wants to just to show up and have fun and not wait in long lines for every single ride... what is left for them? I believe my friend represents more people than you can imagine. Mega planner, disney addicts on the Dis are a tiny slice of the pie.

You obviously did not try hard enough to sell her on it.

You're fired.

.

JimmyV · Mar 5, 2015

lauradis said:
You mean the year of death for travel as a whole. You cant compare years of travel being at a new low to be the norm.

So let me see if I have this right. People who used FP- all used crowd calendars, but if you traveled between 1999 and 2003 and used FP-, those years didn't count. You do realize, don't you, that websites that provide crowd predictions are a fairly new concept and people survived just fine without them. And you can't lay this at the feet of global terrorism.

AustinTink · Mar 5, 2015

Laketravis said:
You obviously did not try hard enough to sell her on it.

You're fired.

.

I'll take my severance pay in the form of extra fastpasses, please.

Cormoran · Mar 5, 2015

mom2rtk said:
"I may or may not be one of them."

I'm shocked. SHOCKED I tell you..... that someone would find the whole thing strange.

I just found out that some friends will be joining us for a couple of days on our next visit. I'm finding it really difficult to explain FP+. My friends think it 's ridiculous that you have to make ride reservations.

AustinTink · Mar 5, 2015

Cormoran said:
I just found out that some friends will be joining us for a couple of days on our next visit. I'm finding it really difficult to explain FP+. My friends think it 's ridiculous that you have to make ride reservations.

My friend looked at me like I had three heads.

JimmyV · Mar 5, 2015

Laketravis said:
You obviously did not try hard enough to sell her on it.

You're fired.

.

mom2rtk · Mar 5, 2015

JimmyV said:
. And you can't lay this at the feet of global terrorism.

Angel Ariel · Mar 5, 2015

Cormoran said:
I just found out that some friends will be joining us for a couple of days on our next visit. I'm finding it really difficult to explain FP+. My friends think it 's ridiculous that you have to make ride reservations.

I went to NYC with 2 of my close friends over the weekend, one of which is a big Disney fan as well (though not on the DIS). She hasn't been to Disney since FP+ testing began, and while she'd heard FP had changed, she wasn't sure what the changes were. All I said was that now you can* schedule 3 rides 60 days in advance. (*Note that I said *can* not "must" or "have to" or anything like that). Nothing negative, no opinion - just stated the facts of the program.

her first response was "why would you want to schedule a ride 60 days in advance?".

And like I said, she is a big Disney fan. We actually talked about Disney a lot on the trip, since she's a fan, and the other friend who was with us was the friend that went on my trip with me in November.

lauradis · Mar 5, 2015

AustinTink said:
her: then that's what we will do. that other thing sounds crazy. who would want to do that?
me: lots of disney addicts like me. i know people that argue about it on the internet. i may or may not be one of them.
her: you scare me

There was more but you get the drift. To the outside, non-planner who wants to just to show up and have fun and not wait in long lines for every single ride... what is left for them? I believe my friend represents more people than you can imagine. Mega planner, disney addicts on the Dis are a tiny slice of the pie.

this is so true.

I see the benefits of old and new FP's... I cant want to see what craziness with happen in the next 10-15 year mark.

Hopefully FP+ will change into something different then the present form and Disney will not torture us with 12+ year of this version of Fast passes. Like the last version.

Disneylover99 · Mar 5, 2015

Cormoran said:
I just found out that some friends will be joining us for a couple of days on our next visit. I'm finding it really difficult to explain FP+. My friends think it 's ridiculous that you have to make ride reservations.

Friends and family joined us in DW last summer. It was kind of a last minute trip for them and they had never been. It was really frustrating trying to get a few of their fp's to match ours. We had an Anna and Elsa and SDMT FP one day, and they thought they could just tag along. Even when we explained how it worked to them, they had a hard time understanding why we just didn't give up our A&E and Mine Train fp's and just get fp's with them. It made for some stressful planning and less then magical experiences.

Sammie · Mar 5, 2015

Absolutely not. I love the new system.

lauradis · Mar 5, 2015

JimmyV said:
So let me see if I have this right. People who used FP- all used crowd calendars, but if you traveled between 1999 and 2003 and used FP-, those years didn't count. You do realize, don't you, that websites that provide crowd predictions are a fairly new concept and people survived just fine without them. And you can't lay this at the feet of global terrorism.

Never said anything about terrorism, I said travel was in the toilet and just now has been returning.

No need for crowd calendars if you know the simple system of when to avoid a park, for lower levels and easier ride times.

The crowd calendars came out before FP+

heres is blog site from 2005 with crowd info and this only took 5 mins on google to find, I know there are more out there, because I looked them up in the early 2000

http://blog.touringplans.com/2005/04/

Cormoran · Mar 5, 2015

AustinTink said:
My friend looked at me like I had three heads.

I kind of felt like I was explaining the birds and the bees to a tween! My friend sported an identical look of incredulity.

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