They could but on the other thread it was pointed out multiple times (including myself) that the HoP is an attraction about America's history...kind of hard to just up and say..yeah he's not part of history really.Everyone is saying Disney can't change and not add Trump now because of the precedent, but I think Disney could potentially not add Trump if they chose not to. They still celebrate Christmas even though, to some, it is kind of politically incorrrect to do so.
At least from listening to the podcasts it does seem that Pete has at least some sort of visibility. I believe last week (I think it was last week) where he was talking about sending a tweet out about the bathrooms (ok I think it was the bathrooms or maybe it was just trash on the ground IDK lol) and very quickly the issue was resolved. But on the topic at hand...yeah that is not something I could see Disney making a decision based on someone even as visible as Pete is.Pete is completely correct. Sadly nothing Pete says, or anything we say matters. Di$ney will do whatever (they think) is best for their bottom line. My hope is they agree with Pete...
That would be censorship would it not? To some that is worse than hearing something you don't like; the idea that because of who you are you don't get to speak.The only way to keep everyone happy is to reserve the statements for non-controversial presidents.
That would be censorship would it not? To some that is worse than hearing something you don't like; the idea that because of who you are you don't get to speak.
This is nothing like censorship. We are talking about whether or not audio-animatronics should speak at a theme park attraction. All I'm suggesting is for the sake of making EVERYONE's vacation as nice and stress-free as possible, controversial figures remain silent (again, they are audio-animatronics, not really people). This way, no one is subjected to something that they consider offensive.
At least from listening to the podcasts it does seem that Pete has at least some sort of visibility. I believe last week (I think it was last week) where he was talking about sending a tweet out about the bathrooms (ok I think it was the bathrooms or maybe it was just trash on the ground IDK lol) and very quickly the issue was resolved. But on the topic at hand...yeah that is not something I could see Disney making a decision based on someone even as visible as Pete is.
This is nothing like censorship. We are talking about whether or not audio-animatronics should speak at a theme park attraction. All I'm suggesting is for the sake of making EVERYONE's vacation as nice and stress-free as possible, controversial figures remain silent (again, they are audio-animatronics, not really people). This way, no one is subjected to something that they consider offensive.
This is nothing like censorship. We are talking about whether or not audio-animatronics should speak at a theme park attraction. All I'm suggesting is for the sake of making EVERYONE's vacation as nice and stress-free as possible, controversial figures remain silent (again, they are audio-animatronics, not really people). This way, no one is subjected to something that they consider offensive.
(Edited: removed previous quote..didn't make as much sense here as it did in the other thread lol oops.)
This is just my opinion here for sure but was there this much noise and such for previous presidents speaking in the HoP? I'm not going into the political realm here but it makes you wonder why it seems (and perhaps it is just the voices are louder this time) all of a sudden this is an issue and why there is this "Disney should stay out of politics and not have them speak" train of thought ...maybe it's just people are making the connection in their minds that President speaks=politics, but even if that's your opinion (which is fine even though I don't agree with it) you should have had that opinion back when it was implemented 23 years ago.......not just now.
Yes I do believe you are right it was about the DSA!!I believe Pete tweeted something complaining about the full trashcans in the smoking section in Tomorrowland.
I could be wrong but i think it is an account WDW has set up that anyone can tweet to for reasons like this - not a special thing Pete has access to or that they acted because Pete is, well, Pete
you don't see choosing someone who isn't controversial (which has already been mentioned changes over time and is different from person to person..seriously look at the outrage over an affair that was denied at first to what we consider nowadays) as censorship?
I've come to the conclusion that they shouldn't have the current president talk. It's too late now, because the precedent has been set and if suddenly Trump doesn't talk, there will be an outcry that Disney is biased. However, I wish they had never started the practice .
Yes I do believe you are right it was about the DSA!!
It may have been misunderstood I wasn't implying that Pete had a one-on-one direct line to Disney. And maybe I'm wrong but in my head (which clearly I couldn't remember the details exactly) but more that they are aware of who Pete is...or maybe that's just the impression I got. It seemed that on multiple podcasts or mini-sodes that they were well aware of who he is..though yes at times he would say he got stellar service and they didn't know who he was at least the actual person he was dealing with.
IDK I could be completely wrong here
Yes that's part of what I brought up in the quote that I edited out. The way we get the news/information now it sooo different than back then I absolutely agree with that.Social media has really evolved (some might say de-volved) over the past 8 years so I think it is largely just the times that people get their voice out more. There definitely were complaints when Obama was added and I saw some people say they heard people shouting rude things at the Obama animatronic .... so it happened back then - everyone just didn't see it on Twitter and there (likely) wasn't a tread about it here with people talking about it
Also, (and apologies if this goes too far for this thread) that while there are people that definitely disagree with Obama's politics and were unhappy when he was elected I don't think it is the same thing as now where people are offended at the person Donald Trump, not just that they are unhappy they lost the election
Two wrongs don't make a right....but hey let's say today they doI'm am sure there are people at Disney who know who Pete - I didn't get the impression from what he said that it was because he was the one that tweeted it that is why they came so quick - but I could be completely wrong as well
The only way to keep everyone happy is to reserve the statements for non-controversial presidents.QUOTE]
Just don't know who would determine that, or if it would ever happen. Obama was very controversial, and Bush and Clinton were both as well. Trump is, and Hillary would have been if she had won. Just stick with the precedent that has been set and let it be.
Yes that's part of what I brought up in the quote that I edited out. The way we get the news/information now it sooo different than back then I absolutely agree with that.
That's a bit of why I mentioned why now? And like you I'm not trying to go too far either with my next few statements but if deep down it's the premise of it and you would have created a petition (which those aren't new at all) back 23 years ago and would have done so with each new president and said you will not go to the attraction because of the current president at the time every single time (and I'm not even meaning people that go to WDW but everyone in general) that is completely one thing but I don't believe there are too many people out there that are that way. But I also think people well I'm not trying to offend any person here at all and it isn't aimed at any person at all but I think there is at least a good number of people who are in denial as to why they don't want the current president in the HoP much less speak.