Anyone concerned about the "mosquito" talk?

[BayouQueen]

We are a bit nervous. We are going next week, and my daughter is soon to be married and planning to start a family right away. We are taking the son-in-law-to-be on this trip to indoctrinate him to love Disney. But....they live in Manhattan and we are finding that she is more at risk staying home. There are quite a few cases in New York. So it's all worrisome, but bottom line, we are going. Honestly, if she lived here in California with us, I probably would have cancelled the trip and waited for things to settle themselves. Not that I'm a worry-wart, but it just would be easy to postpone.
In any case, we will all be doused in Deet.

 

[MapleGirl]

I am not pregnant but there is a very good chance we will start trying to conceive in early 2017. I have an appointment with my OB a week before our trip in September. I'm going to talk to her about getting tested if/when DH and I start trying.

 

[BadgerGirl84]

I'm still pregnant (2nd tri) and still plan on going in 2 weeks.

I was iffy on wearing bug spray prior to the Tampa news but now I definitely will. I have DEET and picardin wipes to avoid inhaling the repellent. I've never seen a mosquito or been bitten by a mosquito on any of our numerous Disney trips, so I find the daily bug spray to be plenty cautious for me. The rate of people actually getting Zika in FL is really really low.

 

[RachaelA]

From article:

" - though they have yet to test the results of their study in humans."



I love the subtle hint in the title: "May"...heck drinking too much water may cause death too...smh

Well they aren't just going to infect people with zika just to see. They need to wait and monitor people who have it. Normally most testing starts on rats.

I think it's a very real concern.

 

[CaterFamily]

Well they aren't just going to infect people with zika just to see. They need to wait and monitor people who have it. Normally most testing starts on rats.

I think it's a very real concern.

Study active cases of adults who do have it.

 

[ShirikiUtundu]

We are planning on another baby next year and now I'm starting to freak out. It's beyond our banking deadline for DVC. I have $500 worth of party tickets booked. And 2 kids that will probably cry for weeks if I cancel their birthday trips.

I absolutely stuck my head in the sand about this for months.

If you're not pregnant yet there's no need freak out. Just plan according to the recommended guidelines. You can still take a trip to Disney in 2 months and have a perfectly healthy baby next year.

 

[teddygurl28]

I'm still pregnant (2nd tri) and still plan on going in 2 weeks.

I was iffy on wearing bug spray prior to the Tampa news but now I definitely will. I have DEET and picardin wipes to avoid inhaling the repellent. I've never seen a mosquito or been bitten by a mosquito on any of our numerous Disney trips, so I find the daily bug spray to be plenty cautious for me. The rate of people actually getting Zika in FL is really really low.

ill see you there. we can show off our bumps to people giving us evil stares! and then swap bug spray I'm bringing spray, wipes and bracelets. i too haven't had issues with mosquitos at Disney in the past, but I decided to bring a plethora of options just to have

 

[ShirikiUtundu]

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-08-19/zika-may-cause-brain-damage-in-adults-too

I read the journal article, albeit quickly. Although it is very interesting there are a few caveats that show the need for lots more research:

1. The infected group was 3 mice, and these mice were knockout (KO) mice, common in scientific research; this means they are genetically bred a certain way and this leads to a sort of built-in compromised immune system.

2. There are lots of things that can decrease NPC (neural progenitor cell) proliferation (cell division and growth) and cause apoptosis (cell death): not just Zika, but any disease that can lead to any sort of brain inflammation; also drug usage, and aging.
I'm stating this because it can erroneously sound like only Zika is causing these effects and it's not. Just like any other illness, some people have complications and others don't. These types of issues have been noted with Dengue and West Nile both of which have been present in the US far longer than Zika yet seemingly haven't caused the same kind of public fear.

3. Only one time point was examined after infection (presumably due to the small study group) and one type of mice. This is problematic because (a) cells grow and divide rapidly and (b) it has been shown that different types of mice have wide variances in cell proliferation and survival generally.

4. The researchers are looking at two important markers for cell proliferation and differentiation. For lack of a better description these are the markers that make an NPC, an NPC. They state that Zika downregulates the expression of these markers. This means the findings could be in part due to a change stemming from infection that makes it more difficult to detect the cells, not necessarily that the infection is harming the cells completely.

 

[Terapin]

I am pregnant and had a winter trip planned. Too late to bank points, so just the mister is going and bringing a friend instead of me. I'm pretty upset about not being able to go, but you only get one chance to make a baby. To go somewhere deliberately where there is a risk and I have a choice about going? Well, that seems pretty foolish. Sure, there are other things that may also be risky or riskier than Zika to my baby, but I am reducing my risk as much as I can with changing anything that is *optional*.

 

[CaterFamily]

I read the journal article, albeit quickly. Although it is very interesting there are a few caveats that show the need for lots more research:

1. The infected group was 3 mice, and these mice were knockout (KO) mice, common in scientific research; this means they are genetically bred a certain way and this leads to a sort of built-in compromised immune system.

2. There are lots of things that can decrease NPC (neural progenitor cell) proliferation (cell division and growth) and cause apoptosis (cell death): not just Zika, but any disease that can lead to any sort of brain inflammation; also drug usage, and aging.
I'm stating this because it can erroneously sound like only Zika is causing these effects and it's not. Just like any other illness, some people have complications and others don't. These types of issues have been noted with Dengue and West Nile both of which have been present in the US far longer than Zika yet seemingly haven't caused the same kind of public fear.

3. Only one time point was examined after infection (presumably due to the small study group) and one type of mice. This is problematic because (a) cells grow and divide rapidly and (b) it has been shown that different types of mice have wide variances in cell proliferation and survival generally.

4. The researchers are looking at two important markers for cell proliferation and differentiation. For lack of a better description these are the markers that make an NPC, an NPC. They state that Zika downregulates the expression of these markers. This means the findings could be in part due to a change stemming from infection that makes it more difficult to detect the cells, not necessarily that the infection is harming the cells completely.

Thank you for this!

 

[Amanda Hall]

Following. We have an end of December trip planned and we hoping to get pregnant . We also have 2 boys who are beyond thrilled to be going to Disney World. We have to decide by 60 days out and purchase our military salute tickets then to make fast pass reservations.

 

[BadgerGirl84]

ill see you there. we can show off our bumps to people giving us evil stares! and then swap bug spray I'm bringing spray, wipes and bracelets. i too haven't had issues with mosquitos at Disney in the past, but I decided to bring a plethora of options just to have

Rock the bump, girl! I'm just 16 weeks right now so I just look chunkier, but oh well. Visiting WDW just seems like incredibly low risk. Enjoy your trip.

It's impossible for Zika to spread like it does in other, less developed countries. Everyone here has A/C, screened Windows and WDW and neighboring resorts spray like crazy for bugs already.

I don't think I'd go camping near the Everglades in a tent in Florida right now, but I feel pretty safe in my vacation home, hopping in the car, and enjoying the parks.

I am pregnant and had a winter trip planned. Too late to bank points, so just the mister is going and bringing a friend instead of me. I'm pretty upset about not being able to go, but you only get one chance to make a baby. To go somewhere deliberately where there is a risk and I have a choice about going? Well, that seems pretty foolish. Sure, there are other things that may also be risky or riskier than Zika to my baby, but I am reducing my risk as much as I can with changing anything that is *optional*.

I've been keeping up with Zika news in Florida pretty much daily. I've read recent news articles that they don't expect Zika to be an issue after November or December due to the colder temps. You might want to hold off on cancelling a flight or something.

 

[WEDWDW]

Interesting River Country news.

http://wdwnt.com/blog/2016/08/disney-fill-abandoned-river-country-pool/

 

[MinnieSweetheart]

Interesting River Country news.

http://wdwnt.com/blog/2016/08/disney-fill-abandoned-river-country-pool/

I doubt that's a coincidence.... I'm glad they are doing what they can to keep people safe.



I'll add my 2 cents while I'm here. I'm 6 months pregnant and we just had some leave and wanted to do a short trip. We chose Disneyland instead this time. LA is still considered a risk for a Zika outbreak, but further down the list than Orlando. Two days after we got back, we heard of the local transmission cases in Tampa Bay which IS really very close to Orlando and many people visit both cities on the same trip.

I think something that a lot of people are forgetting about local transmission cases is that it takes 2-4 weeks for them to confirm anything. People have to first catch the virus from a mosquito, then one of those patients has to go in with symptoms and be diagnosed with Zika and then they have to rule out other causes, then they test the local mosquito population. The CDC and Florida Government are both very aware of the effects this would have on tourism to Orlando (they have already reported a marked drop in tourism moneys in Miami) and will NOT announce anything until they are absolutely sure. I did NOT want to be one of those people who waited until they announced confirmed local transmission and had ended up visiting during a risk period.

My personal guess is that in the next week or two, we are going to hear of cases in Orlando.

In addition to women who are or plan to become pregnant, the elderly are also advised to be very proactive in avoiding Zika.

 

[Terapin]

I've been keeping up with Zika news in Florida pretty much daily. I've read recent news articles that they don't expect Zika to be an issue after November or December due to the colder temps. You might want to hold off on cancelling a flight or something.[/QUOTE]

Thanks! I can always jump back in to the trip (with pleasure!). As you said, we will wait for final plans until we know what is actually happening later in the year. It's easier emotionally if I plan on NOT going

 

[adisneyaunt]

I think Everyone here/Fla is taking ZIKA seriously and taking reasonable precautions... ( no perfume type soaps, hairspray, deodarants, Wearing/using SPRAY/deet, covering up more etc)
ZIKA is on the news daily, latest I heard there are confirmed cases in Tampa ( everyone just thinks Miami). The medical ramifications I've heard about are heartbreaking n Awful.

The benefits of a Disney "fix" versus health risk for those pregnant or soon to is a Very personal decision... One I'd certainly not take lightly and Research/Investigate yourself.
Wishing all ...healthy happy decisions

 

[BadgerGirl84]

I think Everyone here/Fla is taking ZIKA seriously and taking reasonable precautions... ( no perfume type soaps, hairspray, deodarants, Wearing/using SPRAY/deet, covering up more etc)
ZIKA is on the news daily, latest I heard there are confirmed cases in Tampa ( everyone just thinks Miami). The medical ramifications I've heard about are heartbreaking n Awful.

The benefits of a Disney "fix" versus health risk for those pregnant or soon to is a Very personal decision... One I'd certainly not take lightly and Research/Investigate yourself.
Wishing all ...healthy happy decisions

Did you just say everyone in Florida has stopped wearing deodorant??? Okay, now THAT has me rethinking my decision to go...

 

[CAS239]

I think the Zika concern is bigger for those out of Florida than in. It's of course a slight concern (bigger concern for women looking to get pregnant), but outside of the news there's really no talk of Zika down here. It's a very small amount of people that are infected out of millions. The chance of getting it are astronomical.

No one down here is dousing themselves in bug spray before walking outside, no one is staying indoors scared to go out, kids are still out playing football and enjoying the outdoors, no one has stopped using deodorant or perfume/cologne lol. And I don't believe the virus is spread human to human or way more people would be infected. Add to that that Disney has an extremely good pest control team. It's rare when I see a mosquito at Disney.

If I were a woman who is pregnant or planning on getting pregnant in the next couple months, then I'd closely monitor the situation. Outside of that, I wouldn't think twice about going to Disney

 

[mom2rtk]

I think the Zika concern is bigger for those out of Florida than in. It's of course a slight concern (bigger concern for women looking to get pregnant), but outside of the news there's really no talk of Zika down here. It's a very small amount of people that are infected out of millions. The chance of getting it are astronomical.

No one down here is dousing themselves in bug spray before walking outside, no one is staying indoors scared to go out, kids are still out playing football and enjoying the outdoors, no one has stopped using deodorant or perfume/cologne lol. And I don't believe the virus is spread human to human or way more people would be infected. Add to that that Disney has an extremely good pest control team. It's rare when I see a mosquito at Disney.

If I were a woman who is pregnant or planning on getting pregnant in the next couple months, then I'd closely monitor the situation. Outside of that, I wouldn't think twice about going to Disney

I guess that's because if you live in Florida, the discussion about whether to vacation in Florida is sort of moot.

 

[tarheelmjfan]

Did you just say everyone in Florida has stopped wearing deodorant??? Okay, now THAT has me rethinking my decision to go...

I literally live next door to Miami-Dade & haven't changed my normal routine in the least. I still wear perfume, hairspray, use the same soap I always use, etc. I haven't heard anyone mention changing their usual routine. Thankfully, I smell a lot more perfume than body odor on a daily basis. The person you quoted may be pregnant & taking extra precautions, which would give them a different perspective. I really don't think the average Floridian is reacting with these types of extremes. I see buckets & pots sitting around full of water all the time. If people don't even bother dumping out stagnant water, I doubt they're changing soaps, deodorants, etc. We do make sure we don't have stagnant water sitting around, but we've always done that.