The difficulties of a large group

Leaving in two and a half weeks with a group of 12 family members. I planned the entire thing. Some big tips:

1. Get a TW# for your group. Just call Disney and they will give you one once reservations are made. This allows Disney to know your entire group should be linked together the entire time. Particularly important for room reservations.
2. Link everyone in MDE. Makes making reservations fairly easy. Although such a large group might have trouble with restaurants and Fast Passes, so you might have to break them up into smaller groups.
3. Provide an itinerary, but stress that if people do not show you will continue on without them. It is okay to change your mind! Everyone does!
4. Yes, making ADR reservations for the entire group is okay. As long as a portion of the group shows, you will not be charged for them not showing. Exceptions here are the pre-paid dining locations of course.
5. Recommend everyone download the MDE App for ride wait times, fast pass changes, and park info.
6. I provided everyone a list of suggested additional packing as well. Things like extra battery charger, chill towels, moleskin, etc.... Things they may not think of as a disney novice.

Last, enjoy. It is vacation after all, not to mention your getting married!!! ;)

I did tell everyone about Garden Grocer, but i do need to make a suggested packing list
 
I can't believe you are expected to plan all this! I have traveled with multiple families/larger groups. My advice is to create a daily schedule using a touring plan. Pick your fast passes and immediately send them to the others. They can decide if they want to try to match yours or not. Make one table service reservation each day for the whole group. Let each group spend as much or as little time with you as they want. The key is for you to do your own thing without waiting on anyone else or feeling responsible for any one else's happiness. Create a group for sending cell phone texts to let people keep every informed and send plan updates.

When planning a trip the idea of a large group doing everything together sounds great, but the reality of it doesn't work out all that well. People have different ideas about what's fun, different needs for sleep and breaks, different expectations on what makes a meal, different tolerances for waiting in lines or for busses. Trying to create a single plan to match everyone's needs is impossible. Instead, create a basic plan and let people choose when to connect and when to go off on their own.

Whatever you do, don't put yourself in a position where you become responsible for them having a good time.
This is such good advice! I say, make your own plans (you and your new husband's). Pick your own FPs and let everyone know what your plans are; they can try to get theirs the same as yours if they want. Have one nice group meal per day (preferably TS). Then, at that point, if everyone wants to stick together, that's great; if not, no harm, no foul. Everyone needs some alone-time, especially newlyweds! To try to stay together as a group the entire time would be a recipe for disaster!

Plus, you're planning a wedding - a destination-wedding, no less. I'm sure you're already super-busy and probably stressed. I think it's too much to ask that you do all of the planning and FP reservations for such a big group, too. It's hard enough to schedule FPs for small groups, much less big ones.

Congratulations, and good luck with your trip!
 
I can't believe you are expected to plan all this! I have traveled with multiple families/larger groups. My advice is to create a daily schedule using a touring plan. Pick your fast passes and immediately send them to the others. They can decide if they want to try to match yours or not. Make one table service reservation each day for the whole group. Let each group spend as much or as little time with you as they want. The key is for you to do your own thing without waiting on anyone else or feeling responsible for any one else's happiness. Create a group for sending cell phone texts to let people keep every informed and send plan updates.

When planning a trip the idea of a large group doing everything together sounds great, but the reality of it doesn't work out all that well. People have different ideas about what's fun, different needs for sleep and breaks, different expectations on what makes a meal, different tolerances for waiting in lines or for busses. Trying to create a single plan to match everyone's needs is impossible. Instead, create a basic plan and let people choose when to connect and when to go off on their own.

Whatever you do, don't put yourself in a position where you become responsible for them having a good time. "I thought you were a good planner. Why are we waiting 60 minutes for this show!" And then afterwards......"I didn't even like that show, what a waste of time!" The show was Fantasmic. My feelings were hurt!
I admit that I feel responsible for my group having a good time. & of them have never been to WDW and I am choosing everything for them. It is a lot of pressure.
 
I admit that I feel responsible for my group having a good time. & of them have never been to WDW and I am choosing everything for them. It is a lot of pressure.

I especially feel responsible when its 14 of the guests first time, and not one of them care to plan at all.
 
If you have thrill seekers mixed with grandma's, I would suggest considering which rides are near each other. For example, while thrill seekers ride Space Mountain, the non thrill seekers can ride people mover, or Carousel of Progress. People not riding Splash Mountain or BTMRR can ride Pirates, Jungle Cruise, or see Country Bears and Hall of Presidents. This may also help you plan your FP because some of those slower attractions do not require FP.
 
If you have thrill seekers mixed with grandma's, I would suggest considering which rides are near each other. For example, while thrill seekers ride Space Mountain, the non thrill seekers can ride people mover, or Carousel of Progress. People not riding Splash Mountain or BTMRR can ride Pirates, Jungle Cruise, or see Country Bears and Hall of Presidents. This may also help you plan your FP because some of those slower attractions do not require FP.

Ya im trying to stay at Magic Kingdom just for this reason. i hope it works out it's a good idea.
 
From Wikipedia:



If anyone gives you grief, remind them of how gracious you're being by allowing them to even know your approximate whereabouts.


We have 4 days together and then 11 days alone in Disney once they leave. I think it's best kept to this ratio
 
For our group trips, I set up a private Pinterest board that I pin the intinerary on, a good generic packing list (I like the one from wdwprepschool), pictures and info about the hotel, the ADR list, etc..

One nice thing about Pinterest is that you can set up a private board which allows others to pin things about the trip they find as well, such as links to Kenny the Pirate, Easywdw and wdwprepschool. Most people know very little about Disney sites. Also you can add new pins to the site as new tips and plans come up.

This also gives you a place to refer people to who have questions so that you don't have to keep giving the same advice over and over. Also, it puts everything in writing which is good for both research and cuts down on the conflicts later i.e. "Nobody told me that", "but that is not what she said", " I didn't know what time _____ was" ...

Of course the hard part once you explain in the group email what Pinterest is and how to use the private board is to get people to actually read it. I found the easiest thing was to try to answer the various trip emails with, "check the Pinterest board". It's a fun and visual way to try to help others get organized.

But if all else fails, it gives you the chance to deflect blame for those who fail to heed your advice - "well it was posted on Pinterest" for everyone to see. :)
 
I would never do it again. Everyone that went in our group has wonderful memories of our Disney vacation, while I on the other hand still experience night terrors! :scared1:

I've had fun planing it so far. I have only messed up once... i didn't book a BOG breakfast for everyone and now its too late, i don't know why or how i didn't think of doing it... i mean we have the dining plan. its just shameful i forgot.
 
For our group trips, I set up a private Pinterest board that I pin the intinerary on, a good generic packing list (I like the one from wdwprepschool), pictures and info about the hotel, the ADR list, etc..

One nice thing about Pinterest is that you can set up a private board which allows others to pin things about the trip they find as well, such as links to Kenny the Pirate, Easywdw and wdwprepschool. Most people know very little about Disney sites. Also you can add new pins to the site as new tips and plans come up.

This also gives you a place to refer people to who have questions so that you don't have to keep giving the same advice over and over. Also, it puts everything in writing which is good for both research and cuts down on the conflicts later i.e. "Nobody told me that", "but that is not what she said", " I didn't know what time _____ was" ...

Of course the hard part once you explain in the group email what Pinterest is and how to use the private board is to get people to actually read it. I found the easiest thing was to try to answer the various trip emails with, "check the Pinterest board". It's a fun and visual way to try to help others get organized.

But if all else fails, it gives you the chance to deflect blame for those who fail to heed your advice - "well it was posted on Pinterest" for everyone to see. :)


you were lucky then. I've sent out +15 emails (biweekly). Each email has a particular topic ( ie dinning, fast passes, airfare). NO ONE has replied to any of them. I honestly question if they even read them. Back a few months ago we all got free dining, recently i was asked "wont all of this dining be expensive?"

I have a bet with my fiancee that i think at lease one person will forget their magic band or not but the luggage tags on for DME
 
Went with a large group a few years ago... Never again! lol Things I personally experienced

1) "We get to pick all the places to eat because I don't want my kids eating at the ones you picked. You don't have kids yet so this trip isn't for you."
2) "We will leave the hotel at 11am or later everyday, despite the fact that everyone was ready hours ago, because I take 2 hours to take a shower and put on make-up."
3) "I refuse to ride that and if you go on without me you are a terrible person."
4) "You're at a FAMILY REUNION, why do you want to go off on your own for half the day?!"
5) "If something isn't 100% perfect I will whine about it the rest of the day."

The list goes on, but you get the drift. If the people in your group are nice, then you should find ways for everyone to have fun. If not, well... prepare for drama. lol
 
you were lucky then. I've sent out +15 emails (biweekly). Each email has a particular topic ( ie dinning, fast passes, airfare). NO ONE has replied to any of them. I honestly question if they even read them. Back a few months ago we all got free dining, recently i was asked "wont all of this dining be expensive?"

I have a bet with my fiancee that i think at lease one person will forget their magic band or not but the luggage tags on for DME
Tough love time, sweetie. You did everything you needed to do to help them make their visit magical. Now it's up to them.
 
I especially feel responsible when its 14 of the guests first time, and not one of them care to plan at all.

This is quite a pickle! People who have never been to WDW don't understand the need to research and plan out their trips. They think they can just figure it all out when they get there. This is understandable since it's true for most vacation destinations. When these families travel to WDW on their own, they tend to stand around a lot in long lines, miss a lot of attractions, and then come home and say "WDW is horrible and I'm never going back!"

But, when you are traveling with these people it becomes a much bigger problem. They become overwhelmed and you become a very convenient target. In my experience, many people like the idea of Disney World and have a romanticized view of the resort and the idea of spending extended time with family. Below is a list of the most common issues I have experienced in traveling with a group.

1. Certain families view time as a suggestion. They agree to meet at the bus stop at 8:15am. In reality, half of them show up 20 minutes late to let you know that Billy is still in the shower and Maggie went to get a bagel at the Food Court. They are actually ready to leave at 9am. They feel zero guilt about making everyone else wait because they TRIED to make it on time. If you don't wait for them, they become insulted because they thought you were taking this vacation to be with them.

2. People underestimate the physical stamina needed to experience the parks. They become tired and cranky. Or their knee starts acting up. Or they get a headache. The reality is they just can't keep up with the group. Some graciously park on a bench or return to the resort. But others expect the group to slow down their touring.

3. Shopping. Some people cannot go past a shop without spending 10-20 minutes looking at the merchandise. Others can spend a week at Disney and never do any shopping at all. In my experience, shoppers and non-shoppers don't mix very well. Shoppers hate being rushed. Non-shoppers hate waiting for shoppers.

4. Bathroom breaks. After lunch, the group stops at a restroom. 10 of the 14 people use the facility. The other 4 stand around waiting for them. 15 minutes later, 2 of the non-goers now want the group to stop at the next bathroom. "Why didn't you go 15 minutes ago?" "I didn't need to go then." People also differ on how often they need to go. Some people are good for 5-6 hours, others need to visit a restroom every 45 minutes. Neither group is right, just different. However, with a large group you will spend a LOT of time waiting for others during restroom breaks. This drives some people absolutely crazy.

5. Ideas about meals. Some families spend 1-1.5 hours each day at sit down, table service meals. They look forward to the experience and spend a lot of time thinking about and talking about food. Others eat all their meals at counter service restaurants and believe in general, that eating is a waste of park time and you need to get it over with as quickly as possible. Again, no right or wrong, just different. And, neither group has much tolerance for the other.

6. Spending money. Some families have (or are willing to spend) more money than others. One family might be trying to get the group to skip a pricey sit-down character meal that another family is really excited about. The bottom line is that family #1 doesn't want to spend the money and they don't want family #2 to go either. Why not? They don't want family #2 kids to experience the character meal and tell their kids about it. So they pressure the other family not to go.

7. Spending money on souvenirs. Some parents buy their kids lots of stuff on vacation, others don't. Once again, no right or wrong here. The problem is that the kids of the non-spender parents get jealous when they see the other kids getting things they can't have. And the non-spender parents get resentful that the other parents are buying when they don't want to. In my experience, non-spender parents in this position often become very judgmental about the parenting skills of the other parents. It gets ugly quick.

8. Child discipline. Families differ on how they discipline their kids. I once traveled with a Mom and and a 3-year old. The little girl screamed at the top of her lungs every time she didn't get her way. It was ear piercing. I finally said something to the Grandma. She said "We are so used to it, we don't even hear it any more." And she was right. The Mom had the ability to totally block the screams out, while no one else had learned that skill. I have also found that some parents threaten their kids or give them lots of chances without following through with the consequences. This drives other parents crazy, especially when their kids start acting up as well. Again, judgmental statements are made and all heck breaks loose.

9. Amount of downtime/sleep. Many families spend the entire day at WDW from open to close, day after day and seem to become energized by it. Others, need lots of resort time, or pool time. Some kids need naps, others don't. We traveled with one family whose 3 and 5 year old sons took a 2-3 hour nap every afternoon. The problem was they expected the entire group to come back to the resort and wait with them while their boys napped. They didn't want their kids missing anything.

10. General intolerance. Some people believe their way is "right" and everyone else is wrong. If they don't want to do something they don't want anyone else to do it either. Some people also get very cranky when they perceive things are not going their way. I have a brother who cannot wait in line for a bus more than 10 minutes or his head explodes. It made for a very uncomfortable trip as he took it out on everyone around him. He now rents a car and drives himself to the parks.

That's about it! In my experience its differences in how multiple families handle these issues that makes a trip work or not work. The problem is that most of these things are not known until the trip is underway. You can only predict how people will react to a limited extent.

I sincerely hope you have a wonderful trip! My advice to you is the same as others. Pick a different park each day. Pick 3 fast passes for early afternoon and let everyone know that they are free to change them if they wish. Pick a TS dinner spot for about 6:30pm, again letting people know that if they wish to eat on their own that's fine. End the day with the evening event in that park (Illuminations, Wishes, Fantasmic) and pick a meeting spot so that you can experience that event together.
 
Went with a large group a few years ago... Never again! lol Things I personally experienced

1) "We get to pick all the places to eat because I don't want my kids eating at the ones you picked. You don't have kids yet so this trip isn't for you."
2) "We will leave the hotel at 11am or later everyday, despite the fact that everyone was ready hours ago, because I take 2 hours to take a shower and put on make-up."
3) "I refuse to ride that and if you go on without me you are a terrible person."
4) "You're at a FAMILY REUNION, why do you want to go off on your own for half the day?!"
5) "If something isn't 100% perfect I will whine about it the rest of the day."

The list goes on, but you get the drift. If the people in your group are nice, then you should find ways for everyone to have fun. If not, well... prepare for drama. lol

THIS sounds very familiar to me!
 
Went with a large group a few years ago... Never again! lol Things I personally experienced

1) "We get to pick all the places to eat because I don't want my kids eating at the ones you picked. You don't have kids yet so this trip isn't for you."
2) "We will leave the hotel at 11am or later everyday, despite the fact that everyone was ready hours ago, because I take 2 hours to take a shower and put on make-up."
3) "I refuse to ride that and if you go on without me you are a terrible person."
4) "You're at a FAMILY REUNION, why do you want to go off on your own for half the day?!"
5) "If something isn't 100% perfect I will whine about it the rest of the day."

The list goes on, but you get the drift. If the people in your group are nice, then you should find ways for everyone to have fun. If not, well... prepare for drama. lol

I don't think ill have those comments... but im 100% sure i will have other comments like that. which ill be sure to post after the trip :)

i don't know why some people can be so negative in the most positive place.
 

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