If disney could stop one thing Park guests do what should it be?

I thought misogyny like this was limited to 3rd world countries dominated by religious extremists in this day and age. Stop ogling and look someplace else.
I'm pretty sure even most 3rd world countries let women feed their babies ;)
I'm also pretty sure it's only here where dudes can walk around topless in public, but we're not "allowed" to use our breasts for what they're intended.
Now I need popcorn...stupid pregnancy!
 
Women breastfeeding without covering up. It's not going to kill you to cover up. I didn't pay all that money to see your boob hanging out.

Fortunately, the law protects breastfeeding babies and their mothers. Babies don't have to eat in the dark with hot blankets covering them.

When we go out in public places, we may see things we don't want to see. Even if we have paid a lot of money to be in those places. I've found that when this happens to me, I am able to turn my head slightly and focus my eyes somewhere else. Works great.

Of course, if I see a mother breastfeeding, I give her a big smile and a thumbs up. I'm not scared of boobs.
 
I wish Disney could stop other guests from running me off the walkways, and I'm always the one who has to move to the side, to get out of their way.

We always joke when this happens, and say "well, I guess we are invisible again". LOL

But seriously, it does seem as though some folks would just run us over, rather than at least move part of the way to the side.

Oh well, I guess that's just the way it is anywhere where tons of people are in the same place.
 
My pet peeve hasn't been mentioned yet! It bugs me when people cross over you while you seated for an event! Most of them just plow right over your feet, knees, whatever without even a sorry, pardon me, etc. It wouldn't be so bad if they would just say, excuse me! When that happens repeatedly during an event, I will push my knees out more to make it more difficult for them and also say in a loud voice, you're excused, no problem. and smile! At least I feel better. This happens at movie theaters, big events, besides at Disney, but It still bothers me that people have no respect for the ones they are trampling.
 
I'll admit to being annoyed by this, sometimes really annoyed.

But I have to ask this: Have you ever caught yourself doing it too? Or maybe it takes you 20 seconds before you realize you need to move to the side?

Because this behavior is so ubiquitous, and so common, that I just can't bring myself to think of it as rude or inconsiderate. It's just normal behavior that happens to inconvenience other people. Usually it's a slight inconvenience. If they're totally blocking traffic, a calm "excuse me, please" is usually all it takes.

I get annoyed at the grocery store, too, when people leave their carts in the center of the aisle while browsing the shelves. Nine times out of ten, I make it a point to put my cart on the same side as I am, to maximize the available passing space for others. The problem is that it's only nine times out of ten. The tenth time, I'm as guilty as they are.

I completely understand your point: we all make mistakes, of course. But I have to be totally honest in answering your question...no, I really do not do this. It has been one of my biggest pet peeves since childhood, probably because it drove my Mom nuts as well. When I enter a public place that is potentially crowded or has tight spaces, one of the issues that is forefront in my mind is being considerate of all the other people around me, as well as simply paying attention to my surroundings. I look; I notice the people around me. I notice where I am standing. And perhaps simply because I have been doing it for such a long time, I move out of the way if I intend to stop for any reason, be it talking to my husband or texting or looking at a map, or any other number of things. It's the FIRST thing I do when I make a conscious decision to cease walking - I step to the side. I have always been a very aware individual...I just pay attention.

Of course, the people who stop and then realize 10 seconds later that they are in the way and promptly move, shooting me a sheepish smile, are not really the individuals that annoy me. Obviously they just got caught up and forgot themselves, and have remedied the situation. It's the people who literally stop for minutes, with people flooding all around them, fighting to get by, and they Never. Even. Notice. Or care. THAT is what gets my blood boiling. We live in a world where everyone thinks they are entitled. Common courtesy, concern for others, and treating other humans as your equals all go a LONG way in a society that seems to have forgotten.
 
I will probably be flamed for this but I wish Disney would have people in wheelchairs wait in line for the bus like everyone else. I get so frustrated when I've been waiting for close to an hour for a bus when the park closes and someone in a wheelchair comes up just as the bus arrives and gets right on the bus. I don't mind that the bus driver loads the wheelchair first but feel that the person in the wheelchair (and their family) should have to wait in line for a bus like everyone else. I've had to wait for 3 or 4 buses to load, leave, then return for the rest of us and the family with a wheelchair arrives and gets on the next bus. This is especially aggravating when it's raining out and everyone waiting in line is cold and wet.
 
I will probably be flamed for this but I wish Disney would have people in wheelchairs wait in line for the bus like everyone else. I get so frustrated when I've been waiting for close to an hour for a bus when the park closes and someone in a wheelchair comes up just as the bus arrives and gets right on the bus. I don't mind that the bus driver loads the wheelchair first but feel that the person in the wheelchair (and their family) should have to wait in line for a bus like everyone else. I've had to wait for 3 or 4 buses to load, leave, then return for the rest of us and the family with a wheelchair arrives and gets on the next bus. This is especially aggravating when it's raining out and everyone waiting in line is cold and wet.


As one of those people in a wheelchair who irritates you so badly, I'd like to respond. It is Disney policy to load wheelchairs and ecvs first for safety reasons. It would be difficult and unsafe for those ambulatory guests already on board to try to load, park, and secure these devices in an already crowded bus.

Disney set aside a separate but adjoining area beside the regular bus queues so the drivers can see a waiting chair as they drive up to the loading area. This way he knows that he will have a pre load, and how many chairs/ecvs need to be loaded.

If those chairs/ ecvs are mixed in with the existing line, there is no way to load them once other guests have boarded ahead of them. So what are they supposed to do?

Yes, sometimes I'm very fortunate that I arrive at a bus stop just as a bus is pulling up, and I get to board ahead of those who have been waiting. But much more frequently I arrive to find several chairs or ecvs ahead of me and know I'll be waiting for the next bus, or the one after that. Sorry if you feel inconvenienced. I'll be happy to trade places with you.
 
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As one of those people in a wheelchair who irritates you so badly, I'd like to respond. It is Disney policy to load wheelchairs and ecvs first for safety reasons. It would be difficult and unsafe for those ambulatory guests already on board to try to load, park, and secure these devices in an already crowded bus.

Disney set aside a separate but adjoining area beside the regular bus queues so the drivers can see a waiting chair as they drive up to the loading area. This way he knows that he will have a pre load, and how many chairs/ecvs need to be loaded.

If those chairs/ ecvs are mixed in with the existing line, there is no way to load them once other guests have boarded ahead of them. So what are they supposed to do?

Yes, sometimes I'm very fortunate that I arrive at a bus stop just as a bus is pulling up, and I get to board ahead of those who have been waiting. But much more frequently I arrive to find several chairs or ecvs ahead of me and know I'll be waiting for the next bus, or the one after that. Sorry if you feel inconvenienced. I'll be happy to trade places with you.


I have no issue with loading wheelchairs first. But there has to be a better system. Whether it is to have a special bus just for wheelchairs or to hand out numbers. I'm sorry you are in a wheelchair. But understand that for those of us that stand and wait thru numerous buses it is very frustrating to have to continue and wait for the next bus (or the one after that) because families with a wheelchair are able to board the very next bus that arrives while most of the guests have to wait for another bus.

I also feel badly for the guests without obvious disabilities (not using a wheelchair) that have to wait in long lines, especially at park closing. The current method is not fair to them either.
 
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I have no issue with loading wheelchairs first. But there has to be a better system. Whether it is to have a special bus just for wheelchairs or to hand out numbers. I'm sorry you are in a wheelchair. But understand that for those of us that stand and wait thru numerous buses it is very frustrating to have to continue and wait for the next bus (or the one after that) because families with a wheelchair are able to board the very next bus that arrives while most of the guests have to wait for another bus.
There has to be a better way. For some reason so many who are in wheel chairs seem to travel with a large entourage.

minnie mum. No need to take offense. You were not being attacked.
 
I will probably be flamed for this but I wish Disney would have people in wheelchairs wait in line for the bus like everyone else. I get so frustrated when I've been waiting for close to an hour for a bus when the park closes and someone in a wheelchair comes up just as the bus arrives and gets right on the bus. I don't mind that the bus driver loads the wheelchair first but feel that the person in the wheelchair (and their family) should have to wait in line for a bus like everyone else. I've had to wait for 3 or 4 buses to load, leave, then return for the rest of us and the family with a wheelchair arrives and gets on the next bus. This is especially aggravating when it's raining out and everyone waiting in line is cold and wet.

First of all, the wheel chairs may be first on, but they are last off. Secondly, the chairs are queued separate so that Disney knows beforehand they have a wheel chair to load as they have to be loaded first for safety. Thirdly, when there are crowds at the end of the night to get to the bus, there are two or three busses that are able to pull in beside that bus, load, and be on their way before before the wheel chair bus gets finished loading the wheel chairs. Yes sometimes someone in a wheel chair gets lucky. But if the wheel chairs are 5 or 6 deep, well those at the back are waiting for possibly two wheel chair busses in front of them to load before they get their chair bus. That's 6-9 busses without wheel chair passengers that have loaded in the mean time when things are full up. And that isn't to mention the busses with the wheel chairs get to load a bunch of non wheel chair passengers too. Lastly, there's a way to avoid that mess altogether. Just buy an ice cream and sit down while the crowds clear a bit, then walk to the bus stop and spend very little time standing and waiting.
 
I wish Disney could stop other guests from running me off the walkways, and I'm always the one who has to move to the side, to get out of their way.

We always joke when this happens, and say "well, I guess we are invisible again". LOL

But seriously, it does seem as though some folks would just run us over, rather than at least move part of the way to the side.

Oh well, I guess that's just the way it is anywhere where tons of people are in the same place.


Disney doesn't need to stop other guests from running you off the walkways. You can do it yourself. Stand your ground. Don't get out of the way. Make THEM walk around you. A scowl and a few well-placed elbows will give them the message.
 
First of all, the wheel chairs may be first on, but they are last off. Secondly, the chairs are queued separate so that Disney knows beforehand they have a wheel chair to load as they have to be loaded first for safety. Thirdly, when there are crowds at the end of the night to get to the bus, there are two or three busses that are able to pull in beside that bus, load, and be on their way before before the wheel chair bus gets finished loading the wheel chairs. Yes sometimes someone in a wheel chair gets lucky. But if the wheel chairs are 5 or 6 deep, well those at the back are waiting for possibly two wheel chair busses in front of them to load before they get their chair bus. That's 6-9 busses without wheel chair passengers that have loaded in the mean time when things are full up. And that isn't to mention the busses with the wheel chairs get to load a bunch of non wheel chair passengers too. Lastly, there's a way to avoid that mess altogether. Just buy an ice cream and sit down while the crowds clear a bit, then walk to the bus stop and spend very little time standing and waiting.

Not our experience. We were waiting (in the pouring rain) at EPCOT for a bus. Line was extremely long. One wheelchair was waiting (separately) when we got in line. Finally a bus shows up. As the wheelchair is being loaded, here comes another one. The second wheelchair get loaded (with 3 additional people). Wheelchair user transfers to a bus seat (thereby taking space that another person could use). Is it "fair" that the second wheelchair gets to load and be transported before the people who have obviously been waiting in the regular line? No.

And it took 3 more busses before we made it to the front of the line. At no time was there more than one bus at a time there. We were second back for the next bus, and, you guessed it, a wheelchair (with 6 additional people - yes I counted them). While it didn't stop us from getting on the bus, there were others who were "bumped" to the next bus - whenever that would be.

I agree a fairer system is have the wheelchair in the regular line. Certainly the bus driver can see far enough down the line to figure out whether that wheelchair will be on his/her bus and preload it.
 
Disney doesn't need to stop other guests from running you off the walkways. You can do it yourself. Stand your ground. Don't get out of the way. Make THEM walk around you. A scowl and a few well-placed elbows will give them the message.
I certainly don't expect Disney to stop other guests from doing this. It was an exaggeration. Just something I find a bit frustrating at times.
 
I have no issue with loading wheelchairs first. But there has to be a better system. Whether it is to have a special bus just for wheelchairs or to hand out numbers. I'm sorry you are in a wheelchair. But understand that for those of us that stand and wait thru numerous buses it is very frustrating to have to continue and wait for the next bus (or the one after that) because families with a wheelchair are able to board the very next bus that arrives while most of the guests have to wait for another bus.

I also feel badly for the guests without obvious disabilities (not using a wheelchair) that have to wait in long lines, especially at park closing. The current method is not fair to them either.


Really? Most of the guests have to wait for the next bus? That isn't even possible when at most the buses hold 3 scooters or wheelchairs. If there is a system that would be better for everyone, I can't think of it. Scooter only buses would cause long rides to and from the parks for those who use them, and raise costs for everyone. Handing out tickets would raise costs too. I'd bet those people in scooters would trade places with an able bodied guest who is frustrated standing there in an heartbeat.
 
That isn't even possible when at most the buses hold 3 scooters or wheelchairs.
As I said, when we were waiting in our extremely long line (I'd guess about 4 busses worth of people), it's not just the wheelchair that bumps people to the next bus. Although the wheelchair generally takes at least 2 spaces on the bus. We had one person in a wheelchair transfer to an actual seat on the bus, once her wheelchair was loaded (taking an additional seat). Plus any people that are accompanying the wheelchair user. It's quite possible for people waiting in the regular line to be "bumped" to the next bus (or even the next one after that). And they don't run back to back (one right after another). Most times there was at least a 20-30 minute wait for the next bus.
 
As I said, when we were waiting in our extremely long line (I'd guess about 4 busses worth of people), it's not just the wheelchair that bumps people to the next bus. Although the wheelchair generally takes at least 2 spaces on the bus. We had one person in a wheelchair transfer to an actual seat on the bus, once her wheelchair was loaded (taking an additional seat). Plus any people that are accompanying the wheelchair user. It's quite possible for people waiting in the regular line to be "bumped" to the next bus (or even the next one after that). And they don't run back to back (one right after another). Most times there was at least a 20-30 minute wait for the next bus.


Some people might get bumped. But you stated most people, and that is not possible, even if each scooter user had 6 family members with them. I think more people get left behind because too many board and ignore the instructions to move all the way back to the back of the bus. I don't know why so many people get on, and then stand right at the front.:headache:
 

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