Selfie Sticks Banned

And here it is: http://wdwnt.com/blog/2015/06/break...eme-parks-not-just-on-theme-park-attractions/

By July 2015, guests will not be permitted to even bring these items into any of the Walt Disney World theme parks due to safety concerns imposed by the items being brought onto rides (and the rather careless ways some guests use them when not on attractions). Guest relations cast members will be assigned to the security screening areas in front of all of the parks to assist the security cast in dealing with guests trying to bring their “selfie sticks” in. If found, guests can opt to take the stick with them and leave, or they can check it with the guest relations cast member who will have the item stored, give the guest a ticket, and request that they retrieve the item upon leaving the park later that day.

We don’t have an exact date for when this policy will be going into effect, but it should be sometime very soon, before July 2015 in fact.

Stay tuned for more details as they become available.
 
Recently spent a week there arguing many CMs at many rides that this is NOT a selfie stick. It does not telescope out, the handle barely shows outside DS hand, it has a strap that has the camera secure to his arm. No way this is going anywhere. They refused. One also yelled at him after a ride because he saw it on his lap. DS had not used it - the man in front of him had put out a selfie stick and it was spotted. I told my DS you should have absolutely told them it was that man.

I on the other hand had a very large very heavy DSL camera, sometimes with a zoom on it. It was in no way secure to me or my body. I did not have to put it away. It was free to fly out of my hand and clock someone good.

Knee jerk policy that is needed BUT it needs to be clearly defined and all CMs trained. Telescoping stick that you can't hold on to is not the same as a 6" grip for stability on a tiny camera that is tightly attached to the arm. Too vague a rule, too little understanding and minimal training of CMs and there are still too many other objects allowed that are dangerous.

So to answer your questions - a week long trip and repeatedly told all over the world that his GoPro Grip Handle that they could barely see in his hand, and is attached to his arm was not allowed. The told him to take it off and use the camera .... yeah that isn't asking for that thing to go flying.

Constant E-Stops of rides is going to upset people just as much as the selfie sticks.

NOTE: I hate selfie sticks.

This makes me so sad. I am going to be really upset if I can't have the handle on our GoPro! Those things are TINY! I'm way more likely to lose it if I can't have the handle on it! I also have a DLSR camera with a telephoto lens and that is WAY bigger than the GoPro with the handle on it. I hope Disney comes out with some clear guidelines.
 
This makes me so sad. I am going to be really upset if I can't have the handle on our GoPro! Those things are TINY! I'm way more likely to lose it if I can't have the handle on it! I also have a DLSR camera with a telephoto lens and that is WAY bigger than the GoPro with the handle on it. I hope Disney comes out with some clear guidelines.
I think this is mainly because people continue to abuse the rules on rides. I love watching gopro made videos on YouTube. I believe they will still allow chest harnesses for the gopros and stuff because people do POV of rides all the time.
 
As someone that took an iphone to the cheek from a selfie stick being whipped around I cannot help but be ecstatic about this. Yes I know not everyone is careless and not everyone takes them out on rides, but the point is that some are and do. You cannot micro police a policy like Disney tried to do and look for offenders. It has to be an all or nothing and unfortunately as with many policies it took only a small but very rude and careless minority to ruin it for those more responsible.

I see no problem with GoPro handles or stabilizing sticks, but if it telescopes and leaves your personal space and invades someone else's when they are doing nothing more than walking by then it shouldn't be allowed. You know who gets sued if there were an eye injury, not the kid or adult with the selfie stick who was just trying to take a picture. Nope, that lawsuit falls right into the deep pockets of Disney.
 
I'm for this as well - though I think selfie sticks have their place, swinging them around a crowded theme park or on rides are not one of them.

The other comment I want to make is this may well be the first topic that as EVER had 100% agreement 3 pages into a post, making it possibly the wisest decision Disney ever made.
 
No issue with selfie ban. I hope it doesn't include gorillapods and small tripods
. Very helpful when taking night photos
 
I think the bigger issue is the clueless selfie stick users.

Knee jerk policy that is needed BUT it needs to be clearly defined and all CMs trained.

First let me say I really don't care for selfie sticks. I don't have. I don't want one. However, I don't care if someone else has it. (Won't stop me from laughing at them though).

That said, I believe these 2 quoted posts say a lot. Not just about Selfie sticks but many other rules and polices that we end up encountering in life. We have to make stupid rules and policies because people have no common sense AND everyone wants to cash in on a law suit. If we didn't have these stupid polices and something happens the person can claim ignorance and try and cash in.

Examples include:
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Since everyone wants to sue for everything I understand it, but it sucks for those of us who have common sense.
 
No issue with selfie ban. I hope it doesn't include gorillapods and small tripods
. Very helpful when taking night photos
This has been a concern for some because if security doesn't know they could easily be mistaken for a selfie stick.
 
This has been a concern for some because if security doesn't know they could easily be mistaken for a selfie stick.
I would think that anything with "Three" legs to it (for cameras) would be obvious (and likely ok), however I would be more concerned about those expandable "MonoPods" would be problematic. The key to determining one over the other however is a "Remote" to control the camera. Selfie sticks need one, MonoPods Don't (as they are more to just "Stabilize" the camera)
 
it is about time I heard that if you are found then you can give it to a GR cast member who will give you a ticket ( like at a bag check) and you can pick it up at the end of the day. I have been on to many rides that have shout down because of selfie sticks I think they should allow the small ( I forgot what they are called but they do not go out longer then 6 inches ) I think they should still be allowed, I will be there right after the 4 of july and do not look forward to back check that will not be fun.
 
I heard about this today, can't say I'm really surprised. During our trip in March they were already getting out of hand.
 
Just got back from Yellowstone and dearly wish the NPS banned them in national parks as well. Certain foreigners seem to be in love with these things, and are either oblivious to others or just rude, routinely swinging the sticks about. Sorry, Old Faithful looks way better without your mugs in the shot. So happy these things wont be bothering me in WDW this winter.
Now if only tablet video taking was banned, i would like to see the fireworks naturally, not through your iPad.
 
Just got back from Yellowstone and dearly wish the NPS banned them in national parks as well. Certain foreigners seem to be in love with these things, and are either oblivious to others or just rude, routinely swinging the sticks about. Sorry, Old Faithful looks way better without your mugs in the shot. So happy these things wont be bothering me in WDW this winter.
Now if only tablet video taking was banned, i would like to see the fireworks naturally, not through your iPad.

ITA! We were at Yellowstone a few weeks ago and that's where I learned to hate selfie sticks also. Before that I had no opinion either way about the ban at WDW. Two weeks in Yellowstone and the Grand Tetons made me a big opponent of those things!
 
Now if only tablet video taking was banned, i would like to see the fireworks naturally, not through your iPad.

What.. you don't bring a highly engineered tablet video lowering device during fireworks and shows? You have got to get one of these, both effective and entertaining. The device is allowed in parks and actually given away for free!! Thanks Disney!

Just apply moisture to the screen lowering projectile and use the cylindrical propulsion mechanism to launch said projectile at the screen. Eventually the individual holding that tablet up so that the rest of the people behind them can watch the show on their very own closed circuit TV will get the hint and lower it, or get mad and start looking around which.. in both cases will lower it, so its a win win.

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Linked From Reddit:

Disney cast member explains exactly why selfie sticks are now banned

https://np.reddit.com/r/offbeat/com...firms_selfie_stick_ban_at_theme_parks/csmvru7

Hey there! I'm a cast member at Disneyland in California. Here's a picture of my old nametag -- I have a new nametag for the 60th Anniversary, but I don't have it on me at the moment so I can't take a picture. I work the Star Tours, Autopia, and Monorail attractions, but I have a general knowledge of how attractions at Disney work in general.

We have a thing called the "Envelope of Protection." Basically, all attractions made since 1965 are designed in such a way that the human body cannot reach out and touch anything -- here's a vehicle they use to test this (that's from Walt Disney World in Florida, but California uses the same concepts). This means that when a rollercoaster is going 45 MPH, you can have your hands out and you won't get hit (it's not a good idea to test that, however -- we do tell you to keep your hands and arms inside the vehicle at all times). A selfie stick is effectively an extra three feet that you can dangle out in any direction. The attractions weren't designed for that, and your selfie stick can hit part of the attraction. When you're going 45 MPH, that can seriously damage the attraction and your phone/camera. The selfie stick will likely fly out of your hands and in a worst-case scenario can either hit someone else on the ride (injuring them) or land on the track and derail the sled behind you. One of our largest rollercoasters derailed because someone's backpack fell out once, and we don't want to risk a selfie stick causing the same issues.

We originally tried banning them on rides where they could affect some show element or impact part of the ride -- any ride with animatronics that could be poked, and any ride moving relatively fast through areas your selfie stick could hit. People still kept bringing them on the rides and kept dangling them out of the ride vehicles -- and again, if your selfie stick hit something, it could endanger the safety of yourself and those around you. If we saw it come out, we had to stop the ride and ask you to put it away. Some rides can't restart very easily and could take up to 2-3 hours to restart fully (all sleds have to be pushed back to the station so they can begin cycling again, then several cycles have to complete to make sure everything is still okay).

Now, we don't care that much about people seeing "backstage." We have lots of marathons and charity walks around the park that involve going into backstage areas (this one being a charity walk for the CHOC Children's Hospital in Orange County that we do yearly). We actually open up backstage areas daily this time of year as an "overflow" corridor to help people get around the park -- the pathway up and down Main Street gets really crowded around the fireworks and the time our new Paint the Night Electrical Parade comes out, so we open backstage areas that take you "around" Main Street. One of these pathways even goes right next to the boat storage area for the Jungle Cruise, so you can see any boats they aren't using that day! Some special events for our Annual Passholders "lock down" a land just for them to use -- there was an event in Adventureland a few months ago that had guests exit through our backstage areas.

We do try to preserve the magic for most guests, but we don't press it enough to warrant an all-out ban on something. Our "Four Keys" to Disney are Safety, Courtesy, Show, and Efficiency (in that order), and Courtesy comes before Show -- we want to be nice and allow you to take your selfie stick photos, even if they show backstage areas. However, Safety comes before Courtesy -- and this was a safety hazard. Lesser steps weren't having an effect, so we moved to an all-out ban.

It was totally because of the rides, and it was totally because guests weren't listening to us Attractions cast members. If people had listened to us and not taken out their selfie sticks on rides, they would still be allowed in the park -- but people don't listen (or don't care) and think that their awesome selfie is worth potentially endangering others.

You can still wear your GoPros and stuff -- we've been told that mounting your camera on your head is considered a "hat" and mounting a camera on your wrist or hand is considered a "glove," so they're allowed. But you can't bring in any kind of grip or pole that could potentially break our Envelope of Protection.
 
What.. you don't bring a highly engineered tablet video lowering device during fireworks and shows? You have got to get one of these, both effective and entertaining. The device is allowed in parks and actually given away for free!! Thanks Disney!

Just apply moisture to the screen lowering projectile and use the cylindrical propulsion mechanism to launch said projectile at the screen. Eventually the individual holding that tablet up so that the rest of the people behind them can watch the show on their very own closed circuit TV will get the hint and lower it, or get mad and start looking around which.. in both cases will lower it, so its a win win.

Ha ha I love it. The whole holding your massive Ipad up in the air to record something drives me nuts. Totally ruined the fireworks experience at our last trip as all you could see were Ipads everywhere blocking everyone's view. Its not just at DW either, seems like every event now people are doing this. Used to be with a camera you would hold it to your eye and block only your view.
 

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