Emergency Evacuation Procedures at Disney's Polynesian Villas

SpaceMountain77

Kidani Villager Victorian Gentleman Turtle Trekker
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May 3, 2012
Hello everyone,

Today, we experienced a truly challenging day at Disney’s Polynesian Villas & Bungalows. Shortly after 10:00 am this morning, we lost power in Pago Pago. Aside from affecting the amenities in the studio, such as air conditioning and lighting, the loss of power affected both the elevator and sliding glass doors. We were on the third floor and the locked sliding glass doors prevented us from evacuating Pago Pago. Two cast members were dispatched to open the doors and check on guests. My mom, an 84-year-old woman with a hip replacement, was informed by a cast member that she would have to walk down the stairs to exit the building. It seemed as though we had no choice and, because we were unaware of the ramifications of the situation, she walked the three flights. Upon getting into her wheelchair on the ground level, she felt sore and lightheaded. The cast member that aided in the evacuation apologized and wished us a nice day.

After the stair experience, I went to the front desk to inquire about the possibility of another room. Initially, the cast member was unaware of the blackout and, after some back and forth with her supervisor, informed me that there was nothing that could be done. Frustrated and unsure of how to proceed, I called DVC member services and spoke to a manager. The manager informed me that Reedy Creek cast members should have responded to assist my mom and a short-term room offered for her to rest. Although I was told that someone from the resort would call, no one responded.

Power was still out when we returned to the resort after 5:00pm. We were told that power would be restored shortly, but it took about an hour for it to finally come on. In the time that had past until it did, we were again without power and the elevator, which had come back online briefly, was out again. Reedy Creek was dispatched to help my mom down from the third floor, but they ended up using the elevator because it came back online during the time it took for them to respond. Ultimately, we were moved, but it was only after much frustration and aggravation.

With this post, it is my intent to note several things. Regarding safety, it is certainly alarming to know that the sliding glass doors cannot be opened when power is lost; the doors need to be opened from the outside by a cast member. If an emergency evacuation is required in Pago Pago, second and third floor guests would need to jump from the balconies, break the glass doors, or wait for a ladder rescue.

I know things happen, but there should always be some type of policy or procedure in place to ensure guest safety during an outage. Not everyone can spend 7 hours in the parks on a 90 degree day waiting for power to be restored. Moreover, it is reasonable to expect older guests and guests with disabilities to require some assistance after walking three flights of stairs.

Finally, when there is a problem, it is truly challenging to be a DVC member because there is no one at the resort to advocate for us. There were many “I am sorry, but there is nothing that I can do” responses before my mom had air conditioning and a place to rest. Prior to our move, several cast members made a clear distinction between the Villas and the Village.

As a DVC member, my only expectation is a clean, well-maintained room. Today, I never asked the cast members for anything other than a place for my mom to rest because the evacuation walk significantly affected her. I did not ask for an upgrade, free dining or even a Dole whip; I just wanted her to be comfortable. Although we are grateful to now have a functioning room, the initial and continued response today was truly frustrating. As was stated by the DVC member services manager, we may be DVC members, but we are guests of Disney’s Polynesian Resort.


Jim
 
That is appalling. You were treated horribly and you need to raise all of these issues with Member Satisfaction.
 
That is unbelievable. I'm so sorry for what you all went through. Is it not feasible for them to have a backup generator supplying power in case of a loss, so that at least those doors can be opened and elevators can run?
 
SpaceMountain77, I think your attitude is exemplary. My hat is off to you! I heard about the power outage at Moorea today around noon, but had not heard it included Pago Pago. The power was supposed to be off only a couple of hours, but I heard was off pretty much all day. Last I heard from CM friends that work there was that it was possible the power would still be an issue tomorrow. Is your power back on tonight? I sure hope so!!!

I was at the Poly last week and noticed as I entered the Great Ceremonial House that the side door, which is sliding electric doors like the DVC longhouses have, only opened partway. When I came back out that same door about a minute later, it would not open. I pushed around a bit on it to no avail. There really wasn't a finger hold spot that I saw in those seconds. Some CM's were outside and one of them fairly readily pulled the doors open, but I can surely see where under your circumstances that would be very scary.

I agree that you should write about your ordeal, but I would send that email to more than just Member Satisfaction. I would also send it to the GM of the Poly. I agree that the way things happened was NOT okay.

I hope the rest of your stay is uneventful and filled with the pixie dust we members have come to expect! :flower3:
 


I have 2 connecting (hopefully) studios reserved for my family for 3 nights next week. I can honestly say that I am not looking forward to staying there. I have heard so many negative experiences from different people since the DVC Poly villas opened. From tour groups at the pool, to construction noise, to boat noise, to unhelpful CM's, to the monorail not running at 100%, then to your horrible story. Wow - seems like the Poly villas are off to a rocky start :(

I am sure they will get everything together eventually and be a great place to stay. I hope that member services will at least give you some points back to help compensate for what your family had to go thru today.
 
that is a safe feature problem - would have called 911 fire department. can't believe your mother went thru this - is she okay?

you have a good mom - mind for even less would demand a visit to the emergency room.
 
As this was a resort issue, the resort should be doing some comping IMHO. And they should have been very concerned about things like the doors not opening readily and no help for the infirm to descend down 3 flights.

We very much enjoyed our one night Studio stay last week (we're local and I had holding points to burn), though in another thread I mentioned the thermostat issues, and unrelated to the resort, an exceedingly long monorail wait to go from the MK to the Poly (it took a good hour!). Being a local and on property often, my impression is that they really pushed the opening of the DVC villas. They should have gotten more of this construction stuff DONE before admitting the first members and guests. And issues like they've had prove it. Again, IMHO...
 


There aren't regular exit doors on the stairwells? There's only the sliding glass doors? Not that in an emergency one should need to worry that the front door won't open - that's bad - but I cannot fathom that there wasn't another exit that the CM's should have directed people towards. How could this building pass a fire inspection?
 
The doors do not have to be broken to open, you push hard on them and they will open in an emergency and yes there are regular doors on the stair wells.

I am sorry this happened but I do think we all have to take responsibility also for ourselves when we travel. If I know I am not able to use stairs, I request first floor for medical reasons to ensure that I am able to get out of the building during an emergency. In case of a fire everyone has to be sure they can walk down the stairs unassisted.

You definitely should not have been treated as you were but always ask for the on duty manager and do it in person at the front desk.

As to the resort versus DVC, this always happens when they add on to the resort with DVC, it is a learning curve for everyone and sadly both Cast Members and DVC members are guilty in why it happens.
 
The doors do not have to be broken to open, you push hard on them and they will open in an emergency and yes there are regular doors on the stair wells.

I am sorry this happened but I do think we all have to take responsibility also for ourselves when we travel. If I know I am not able to use stairs, I request first floor for medical reasons to ensure that I am able to get out of the building during an emergency. In case of a fire everyone has to be sure they can walk down the stairs unassisted.

You definitely should not have been treated as you were but always ask for the on duty manager and do it in person at the front desk.

As to the resort versus DVC, this always happens when they add on to the resort with DVC, it is a learning curve for everyone and sadly both Cast Members and DVC members are guilty in why it happens.

Pago Pago has 7 entrances/exits: 3 on the first floor, 2 on the second and 2 on the third. All exits are sliding glass doors. Hawaii, for example, has a stairwell with single push-bar doors, but this is not a feature in Pago Pago. There were several families that tried to open the doors on the third floor, but none of them were successful. Moreover, when the cast members responded, only the doors on the east side of the building were opened by cast members because the doors on the west side could not be opened. Perhaps some of the doors open with a simple push. Unfortunately, the doors at Pago Pago required cast member assistance and could only be opened from the outside on the east side.

Yes, there is a degree of personal responsibility with travel. However, at the time of check-in, the only available rooms were located on the second and third floor. As I am sure you know, first floor requests are noted but not guaranteed. To guarantee a first floor room, we have been regularly told that one would need to book a handicapped accessible villa. Unfortunately, DVC resorts do not offer the Florida Special design that is offered on the regular resort side. All DVC handicapped accessible villas have roll in showers, the Florida Special design has a shower with multiple support rails. We need the rails, not the roll-in design, so we do not book the DVC accessible villas.

If the building was on fire, then yes, my mom should have used the stairs. However, this was not the case as there was no pressing emergency. Reedy Creek should have been called to assist her during the outage evacuation.

Regarding the doors, if roughly a dozen people are unable to open a door and exit a building safely, then it is certainly a safety concern.
 
I have parents in their late 80's and I would be livid in your situation. Is your Mom OK?

I know you will be sharing your experience with Member Satisfaction and I sincerely hope the Poly management team makes the changes necessary to do better when they lose power again.
 
Wait, so in the Pago Pago building, even the entrances to the exterior stairwells are sliding glass doors? That's interesting, not what I would have expected. I'll have to check that out.
 
I would have never thought the stairwell doors would be sliding too, what in the world made them change them from the other buildings, where you have a push door there. That does make a difference. Also if the doors don't have the emergency release option where you push them down, then yes that is a problem When I say push, I do mean literally push them off the frame not push on them and they open.

I would definitely let DVC know that there is an issue with the doors. You should be able to open them with the power off just as all automatic doors at stores.
 
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the sliding doors did not have anything to push down - they open when you come near them - or at night when you use your magic bands. there is no way to open them with the power out -

these are new doors and are probably break proof as well.

they changed them to make it look better - and probably to save on power - some people will open the door and then leave it open until their entire party is thru - this things close - not generally on people - but if it is a long wait - they will close.

this is a big safety issue another reason to call 911 - so the fire department can demand that Disney fix this situation NOW
 
I don't mean push down on anything, don't you know how they are at say Home Depot, you push them out in an emergency.
 
Hard to believe that there isn't a door release somewhere on the inside of the door. I expect that building/fire codes require it.

:earsboy: Bill
 
You know what, though? I hope that Disney realizes what a problem evacuation was based on these doors and gets them fixed and upgraded before a real emergency happens! Thank goodness there was no real emergency! OP, I'd be sure to take your complaint to the resort management as well as DVC management. That is a major safety issue for anyone!

I hope your Mom is feeling okay today.
 
I hope your Mom is okay. I have requested a ground floor room as well for medical reasons and this door situation has me worried. Regardless of whatever learning curve anyone is expecting, at the very least I would hope a resort cm would show more compassion. I hope the rest of your stay your Mom is better and you have more of a magical time.
 

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