My question is why did they take a party bus to the retreat? There was only 5 of them!
I do NOT like Melissa.
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I do NOT like Melissa.
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Mac4life30 said:I'm I the only person who feels bad for Teresa??
Teresa is such a screw up. But she and her brother are forever entwined. I hope they can work this out, where everyone gives some and comes together.
I'm I the only person who feels bad for Teresa??
No you are not. Trust me. The tides are turning ON Melissa.
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I don't feel bad for her at all. I think her actions and her mouth has put her in this situation. She is always shifting the blame on everyone else. Even the Dr. said last night that she has to take some accountability at some point. When she was talking about Jacqueline being the reason for joe not speaking to her the Dr. totally called her out and said "but you WERE involved." She talks about sticking with her and not listening to what others say but yet she's always right there when Kim D is running her mouth about Melissa. If it were reversed I'm sure Teresa would be pissed that Melissa didn't stand up for her, her sister in law. But yet she says nothing. Years of rotten behavior has brought her to a very dark lonely place.
I think Melissa and Teresa are guilty of doing the same things to one another. Teresa does need to own up to her part in it but so does Melissa. Melissa hangs out with people that don't like Teresa (Jaq) but everyone calls Teresa out for Kim D. Joe and Melissa both say all kinds of mean things about Teresa's husband but they flip out if Teresa says anything about Melissa.
It seemed very clear that Melissa doesn't want Joe and Tre to make up. I do think she's in Joe's ear, stoking the fire between Joe and Teresa. She doesn't want them to make up which is why she wouldn't let Joe and Teresa talk without her.
I'm not really a fan of either one of them... But I do disagree about Melissa, only because we have something similar going on with my husband's family (in a normal way of course lol). I think they all have fault, but I think Teresa has been the biggest problem of them all. Nothing is going to get resolved if she doesn't buck up and accept some responsibility.
IMO, the person who has a feuding family will always say 'one more try,' 'okay let's see if this works,' 'this is the last one,' and they'll just never stop even to the detriment of their own personal family. At some point someone has to say enough is enough and the first one to say it isn't the family member, it's the one that gets dragged through the mud along with them. Joe and Teresa need to be the ones to work it out, but in the meantime Melissa is going through the emotions, the drama, the pitfalls, but she's supposed to step back and let them deal with it. It's a terrible place to be stuck in. I think she genuinely wants them to makeup but she's tired of trying different things, putting themselves through the stress, and getting nowhere. When it feels like an endless circle it's logical to say stop.
The fist fight happened during their first few hours. You can bet your life that if my husband got into a fist fight with his brother in law and I watched his sister running away instead of helping that I'd say the same thing when she came to talk alone. Joe said he didn't want to talk, so why would she leave? I wouldn't. If Teresa had asked to speak with Joe alone pre-fist fight I have no doubt both spouses would have been fine with it. And frankly, if Joe had looked at Melissa and said 'no, it's okay. Give us a minute' I think she would have. But he gave no indication of wanting to speak to her, let alone be alone with her, and she probably handled it more gracefully then I would have. I think her initial reaction was the same way I would have - they just had a peaceful year without Teresa, she is going on a retreat to try to mend things again when she doesn't want to because she doesn't think it will work, and the first night the husbands are fist fighting.... I'd be more than done too.
I laughed so hard at Joes admission to using black hairspray. No shame. Love him.
Teresa ran to get help. There were probably only camera people there and they would keep filming instead of helping. She genuinely seemed upset. I wouldn't have gotten in the middle of those two fighting either.
Of course after the fight there was Melissa turning it on Teresa.
Maybe Joe didn't want to talk but he's an adult and Melissa does need to stay out of it. It wasn't just Teresa. Rosie was there too.
It seems to me like he's wanted to make up with Teresa but then Melissa will come and put something in his ear to make him mad at Teresa again. Its the same with Teresa and her husband. If she hadn't gone to him and told him her brother called her names, he would've stayed out of it. I think Melissa does the same thing. Everyone calls Teresa out on it but not Melissa.
The black hairspray was funny. It reminded me of the old infomercial for the spray can toupee stuff.