dmunsil
Disney Uber-Nerd
- Joined
- Jan 11, 2008
Because one person demanded it! 
Well, I kinda planned to do all the WDW resorts just for my own edification. I just moved SSR up higher in the queue since someone asked.
Since there were 104 SSR sales recorded in May, I decided I didn't have the time to do them all. So I did every 4th one (26 in total), which seems like a reasonable sample. BWV and BLT both had about 25 sales, so this is about the same level of info. I did do all the ROFRs, since there were only 5.
As a bonus, because I was curious, I noted the title company that filed the deed. Magic Vacation Title (***) is the title company for The Timeshare Store, and I think they may be exclusive. First American Title (FAT) does titles for Fidelity, but I don't know if they're exclusive. Timeshare Title & More I don't know. Maybe they do titles for one or both of the other two big resellers? I didn't see any other title companies, except that the ROFRs are filed directly by Disney Vacation Development.
Standard caveats apply:
- The date listed is the date on the deed, which is typically shortly after the ROFR waiver comes. The actual price was negotiated 3-4 weeks prior, so these prices are lagging about 2 months.
- The price is calculated from the Florida deed document tax, which gives the price to the next highest multiple of $100. So some prices are a skosh too high. In most cases, it means a few cents, so it'll say the price was 61.33 per point, and it's actually 61 even.
*** filed 17 titles, FAT filed 6, and TTM filed 4.
Median sales price was $62.38. Median ROFR price was $52.50.
Just for grins, I calculated the average (mean, not median) price for each title company. *** and TTM were both at almost exactly 62. FAT was at about 54, partially because of the two lowball bankruptcy sales at around $45.
Again, just one data point, but I think the conventional wisdom that Fidelity has more distressed sellers and thus is better for lowballing offers seems to hold true, assuming that all the FAT filings are from Fidelity.
And the slogan up at the top of the page that The Timeshare Store is the #1 DVC reseller seems to be true by a massive margin. That's certainly been my impression over the last couple weeks as I've read about a gazillion deeds; it's nice to put numbers to it.
Well, I kinda planned to do all the WDW resorts just for my own edification. I just moved SSR up higher in the queue since someone asked.
Since there were 104 SSR sales recorded in May, I decided I didn't have the time to do them all. So I did every 4th one (26 in total), which seems like a reasonable sample. BWV and BLT both had about 25 sales, so this is about the same level of info. I did do all the ROFRs, since there were only 5.
As a bonus, because I was curious, I noted the title company that filed the deed. Magic Vacation Title (***) is the title company for The Timeshare Store, and I think they may be exclusive. First American Title (FAT) does titles for Fidelity, but I don't know if they're exclusive. Timeshare Title & More I don't know. Maybe they do titles for one or both of the other two big resellers? I didn't see any other title companies, except that the ROFRs are filed directly by Disney Vacation Development.
Standard caveats apply:
- The date listed is the date on the deed, which is typically shortly after the ROFR waiver comes. The actual price was negotiated 3-4 weeks prior, so these prices are lagging about 2 months.
- The price is calculated from the Florida deed document tax, which gives the price to the next highest multiple of $100. So some prices are a skosh too high. In most cases, it means a few cents, so it'll say the price was 61.33 per point, and it's actually 61 even.
Code:
Sales:
Date Points UY Sale PPP TitleCo
17-Apr 175 Oct $60.00 ***
19-Apr 210 Feb $62.38 ***
22-Apr 260 Aug $52.31 FAT
22-Apr 160 Mar $60.00 ***
23-Apr 430 Dec $51.16 FAT
24-Apr 200 Aug $65.00 ***
24-Apr 350 Dec $65.14 ***
24-Apr 160 Dec $66.25 TTM
26-Apr 160 Oct $64.38 ***
27-Apr 200 Jun $60.00 ***
29-Apr 150 Aug $45.33 FAT
29-Apr 125 Oct $61.60 ***
30-Apr 160 Sep $68.13 ***
1-May 240 Mar $61.25 ***
1-May 150 Dec $65.33 ***
4-May 150 Feb $59.33 ***
6-May 150 Oct $58.00 TTM
7-May 120 Jun $67.50 ***
10-May 150 Oct $68.00 FAT
10-May 150 Aug $60.00 ***
14-May 150 Aug $45.33 FAT
16-May 250 Aug $63.20 TTM
17-May 120 Oct $62.50 ***
17-May 240 Apr $64.17 TTM
20-May 160 Dec $65.00 ***
21-May 50 Dec $60.00 FAT
25-May 160 Feb $63.13 ***
ROFR:
Date Points UY Sale PPP
5-Apr 200 Dec $55.00
18-Apr 150 Feb $62.00
24-Apr 160 Feb $52.50
27-Apr 200 Aug $52.50
13-May 150 Feb $52.00*** filed 17 titles, FAT filed 6, and TTM filed 4.
Median sales price was $62.38. Median ROFR price was $52.50.
Just for grins, I calculated the average (mean, not median) price for each title company. *** and TTM were both at almost exactly 62. FAT was at about 54, partially because of the two lowball bankruptcy sales at around $45.
Again, just one data point, but I think the conventional wisdom that Fidelity has more distressed sellers and thus is better for lowballing offers seems to hold true, assuming that all the FAT filings are from Fidelity.
And the slogan up at the top of the page that The Timeshare Store is the #1 DVC reseller seems to be true by a massive margin. That's certainly been my impression over the last couple weeks as I've read about a gazillion deeds; it's nice to put numbers to it.
