Disney in Texas

[Disneyspiderman]

And I'm no expert at golf courses or how big they are, but I know the courses at WDW are very nice, maybe it would be a Disney golf course - similar to PGA style?

well in dallas they are bulding a pga tour for 2019
IRVING, Texas -- The HP Byron Nelson Championship has entered into an agreement with the PGA Tour and the Trinity Forest project that would move the event from Irving, its home the past 30 years, to Trinity Forest Golf Course starting in 2019, assuming everything goes forward as scheduled with the project.

Dallas is also building a Strip like Vegas soon aswell

im not sure about a Disney land but knowing the
Iger family its possible they will build in america in Texas you never know. and plus all the stuff thats coming to dallas you never no if it will come to either
DFW , San antonio or Houston .

 

[Disneyspiderman]

I wonder about this Texas plan because I feel that it would take profits away from both DL and WDW. I'm always up for a new Disney park. We'll have to wait and see.

i say since we have disney land and disney world i feel that if they build one more its best they call it Disney City and its so much land in texas i say why not name it that anything else over that wouldn't make much since

 

[Q-man]

Had a conversation with a friend in the development business about these rumors. I ask him if true why Waller and not the south side to be 50 miles farther south for fewer cold days?

His thoughts were-
- farther inland for hurricane protection
- in the Piney Woods which would save many many millions in construction cost from sandy soils and existing trees over the the ever expanding and contracting heavy clay soils of the Coastal Plains to the south of Houston.
- Only those in Houston and the much smaller populations coming from east and south of Houston would have to actually drive through Houston.
- Houston's wealthier suburbs are mostly on the west and north sides.
- Far enough out of town that Houston exurbia won't reach that area for 20 plus years

 

[Rebekkap]

As for cost, land and labor is still comparatively cheap around Houston. If they could afford to build in Tokyo, Paris, and Hong Kong then the cost of building in the Houston area is of little concern.

Cost of building in Hong Kong would have been extremely cheap. Very low labour costs and the HK government provided the land at no initial cost, owned 57% of the shares in the company running the resort, and injected $3.25 billion initial equity compared with Disney who initially put in $2.45 billion.

The other two resorts were cheaper to build, but longer ago.

 

[naomiatx86]

Dallas is also building a Strip like Vegas soon aswell

This caught my eye! What do you mean like Vegas- are we talking hotels, or casinos, or nightclubs?

 

[ilostnemo]

Now, in the past, I remember reading rumors about mini parks placed throughout the US. They would be too small to compete with the two major resorts, but attract people looking for something a little more local. If there was any truth in these rumors, it's possible they are looking for locations now.

Speaking of this I know for a fact disney has land in Tennessee close to the smokie mountains. About 30 mins away from where I-75 and I-40 cross.

 

[Stitch1231]

Speaking of this I know for a fact disney has land in Tennessee close to the smokie mountains. About 30 mins away from where I-75 and I-40 cross.

That I heard was for another off site DVC at one time like hilton head but who know if they will ever do tat because it's not a no snow destination.

 

[vandy]

Unless it is a large project or at least what DL has to offer, I am having a hard time believing Disney would build an amusement type park attraction. I think if they did, they would need to combine a Magic Kingdom type park and add many of the thrill type rides from the other parks in order to compete with the many other thrill parks around such as Six Flags, Worlds of Fun, etc. It would need to be a DESTINATION site, where people from all over the country would wish to go, and not just something for the geographical area. This is contrary to what Disney has and continues to do. They prefer to provide the "Experience" with a mix or attractions for a variety of ages. I would think that style of park would have a hard time competing for the vacation or a day-outing dollar with other amusement parks.

Maybe a "Best of" park with Expedition Everest, RocknRoller coaster, tower of terror, splash mountain, space mountain, soarin', test track and so on?

 

[Q-man]

.... and injected $3.25 billion initial equity compared with Disney who initially put in $2.45 billion.

The other two resorts were cheaper to build, but longer ago.

That is to my point that the land is the least of the cost. If Disney did buy the rumored Waller tract it would have likely been under $40 mil. The 10 acre expansion of Fantasyland cost $425 mil. Building Aulani was $800 Million. The new cruise ship, Fantasy, cost $900 million.

 

[Q-man]

Unless it is a large project or at least what DL has to offer, I am having a hard time believing Disney would build an amusement type park attraction. I think if they did, they would need to combine a Magic Kingdom type park and add many of the thrill type rides from the other parks in order to compete with the many other thrill parks around such as Six Flags, Worlds of Fun, etc. It would need to be a DESTINATION site, where people from all over the country would wish to go, and not just something for the geographical area. This is contrary to what Disney has and continues to do. They prefer to provide the "Experience" with a mix or attractions for a variety of ages. I would think that style of park would have a hard time competing for the vacation or a day-outing dollar with other amusement parks.

Maybe a "Best of" park with Expedition Everest, RocknRoller coaster, tower of terror, splash mountain, space mountain, soarin', test track and so on?

Disneyland has done just fine completing with Magic Mountain, Knotts Berry Farms, and Sea World for decades for the very reason you mention; it is a theme park and they are amusement parks. But your suggestion is kind of what the Disney California Adventure Park addition to DL is. DL outdraws Disney California Adventure for guest visits by 165%.

 

[Horace Horsecollar]

Cost of building in Hong Kong would have been extremely cheap. Very low labour costs and the HK government provided the land at no initial cost, owned 57% of the shares in the company running the resort, and injected $3.25 billion initial equity compared with Disney who initially put in $2.45 billion.

Those numbers look huge, but those are Hong Kong Dollars, not U.S. Dollars. Currently, a Hong Kong Dollar is worth around 13 U.S. Cents.

If Disney is ever wants to build a third major destination in the U.S., it's highly unlikely and that the Federal government (or a state or local government) would invest directly and take an ownership position. However, it's likely that Disney would seek and receive infrastructure improvements (such as freeway offramps) and tax breaks.

If Disney ever wants to build another smaller project in the U.S., along the lines of Aulani, it's likely that Disney would be part of a larger masterplanned development. Aulani has the benefit of being part of the Ko Olina Resort. Disney's cancelled project near D.C. would have been part of National Harbor, a private development whose developer had already successfully navigated the the sea of environmental issues and government cooperation.

 

[Disneyspiderman]

This caught my eye! What do you mean like Vegas- are we talking hotels, or casinos, or nightclubs?

yes they are casinos hotels and attractions Texas wants the money like las Vegas and Oklahoma have so they Said they are planning to build a Strip in dallas

 

[Q-man]

yes they are casinos hotels and attractions Texas wants the money like las Vegas and Oklahoma have so they Said they are planning to build a Strip in dallas

Legalizing gambling in Texas failed to pass, once again, this legislative session. They can try again in two years.

 

[DryCreek]

yes they are casinos hotels and attractions Texas wants the money like las Vegas and Oklahoma have so they Said they are planning to build a Strip in dallas

Only problem I see there is that they'd have to legalize casino gambling here in Texas.

If they were to build a mid-sized park there, with a MK/DL park, and an accompanying "regionally themed" park, I would be the first lin line to buy an annual pass! By regionally themed, I mean they could capitalize on the bayou region to the east (think DL POTC), the Gulf of Mexico (certain parts of Disney Sea), lots of greenery, so that would be the obvious place to build Avatar Land. And, to pay homage to the dry western part of the state, a Cars Land would be a natural addition too. These are just items on my "wish list".

With Six Flags Astroworld closed, the next closest draw would be Six Flags Fiesta Texas in San Antonio - and, depending on if it ever reopens, the ill-fated theme park in New Orleans. That cheesy little park planned in the link provided earlier probably won't work too well. The one problem with the other theme parks that could theoretically compete with them? Lodging! None have onsite lodging or RV parks. I loved the Fort Wilderness and Carowinds RV parks when we lived on the east coast. Why don't other parks offer something similar?

I know that it probably won't happen - but a Disney fan can dream, can't he?

 

[6disneykids]

I just tried the link OP posted and got the message that the "blog you are looking for does not exist". There have been rumors for years that Disney was buying, or had bought land in various parts of the Houston area. I do understand the discreet way most of the land was purchased in Florida, but in this day of social media, it would be really difficult to hide a land transaction. Even with the population explosion in Texas, I am not sure that Disney would build a large scale attraction here.

While I would love to have some sort of Disney park within an hour of my home, realistically, I would be surprised to see it come to fruition. I would think some kind of product distribution center would be more likely.

 

[Horace Horsecollar]

I just tried the link OP posted and got the message that the "blog you are looking for does not exist".

I think the blog article about the 6,400-acre Disney development north of Houston was a hoax, so the blogger took it down.

I would think some kind of product distribution center would be more likely.

That would assume that Disney actually made a large real estate purchase in Texas. I don't think there's been such a transaction.

 

[doconeill]

I think the blog article about the 6,400-acre Disney development north of Houston was a hoax, so the blogger took it down.

No, no, no...we must perpetuate the myth!! Disney MADE them take it down, of course...



I am JOKING!

or am I...

 

[Disneyspiderman]

has anyone ever signed a petition are talk to the Disneyland board of directors to try and put a theme park in there state cause Texas has so much land its ridiculous and also if disney was in texas where would be a good place for it and what top 15 rides would you all want .
all i can say it be perfect in either Austin Houston are DFW

 

[TJSkinner]

Disney did at one time own property North of Houston near the Texas Renaissance Festival site. Property has since been turned into a subdivision. There were even gates up. My daughter worked for Disney at the time. A new theme park with ex disney employees is being talked about in the Conroe area.

 

[WebmasterMike]

Houston Chronicle Proposed Disney-like theme park faces uncertain future By Cindy Horswell | February 15, 2012 | Updated: February 15, 2012 9:11pm In 2005, many area residents shed tears over losing the longtime Houston icon AstroWorld. That same year real estate investor John Marlin of Dallas bought land about 30 minutes north of downtown Houston that he envisioned turning into the area's next Disney-style theme park called EarthQuest. But now the fate of Marlin's 1,564-acre tract in Montgomery County that he planned to use for the 500-acre theme park and 1,064-acre residential development will be decided by a U.S. bankruptcy court in Sherman on March 5. Marlin heads Whitestone Houston Land, LTD., which filed for the Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection. He could not be reached for comment. But two groups that had been working closely with Marlin in pursuit of the theme park - East Montgomery County Improvement District and Contour Entertainment - are joining forces to try to buy the land and establish a new developer. The court has set a minimum purchase price of $10 million, which is about half what Marlin originally paid for the land that straddles U.S. 59 near New Caney. Completion of the project is estimated to cost about $500 million.



This is what has been floating around Facebook the past week or so. It's from a blogger in Waller Tx from over a year ago.

FYI folks, that is New Caney and not in Waller. There is no theme park plans in Waller. But in New Caney, there are plans afoot for a new, non-Disney park.