Star Wars Land at WDW??

[PrincessTeresa]

A lot of it is from other thread information I gather and from looking at part things disney has done and how they approach these types of things most of these year/time frames are estimations and some turn out to be pretty accurate. So I use and I would others use background knowledge and information of other disney websites and other disboards threads.

disney lover at heart

That makes sense.

 

[mvk]

This was posted in another thread about possible Planes attractions - http://www.disneybymark.com/2013/04/30/wdis-twister-ride-system/

Potential new ride system, I think it would work pretty well for the TIE Fighter vs X-Wing ride that I proposed. Make it a 3D ride with TSMM style shooting sequences, with targets on the TIE Fighter or X-Wing in front of you, and along the movie going "past" you on the sides/top of the ride tube, and you have a pretty good attraction I think.

 

[Shmily1]

Where would they build this? It looks to me like there are roads everywhere but the front. I would definitely love to have a Star Wars area that was bigger.

 

[mvk]

Where would they build this? It looks to me like there are roads everywhere but the front. I would definitely love to have a Star Wars area that was bigger.

If you look at DHS on google maps, there is room to the east of the park, south of the parking lot. They can build a new road around the expansion.

I figure it would also take over Indy Jones Stunt Show, Streets of America, the Muppets area, Pizza Planet/Mama Melrose's, and Sci-Fi Dine-In Theater.

 

[mvk]

This would be my future of DHS 'dream' plan -

 

[mvk]

General gist of things -

 

[jamarmiller]

I am afraid that before anything even happens my boy will be too old to appreciate these things, if they ever come about

 

[Shmily1]

So you wouldn't enter of of World Drive but more likely Victory Way. Interesting that you would also have room for Carsland too. I do hate to see them get rid of Streets of America. It's nostalgic and could also mean a disapearance of OFSOL for November and December.

 

[Spacedog1975]

So you wouldn't enter of of World Drive but more likely Victory Way. Interesting that you would also have room for Carsland too. I do hate to see them get rid of Streets of America. It's nostalgic and could also mean a disapearance of OFSOL for November and December.

I can't fathom them ditching OFSOL. I only got to witness it for the first time last year, but it was spectacular and popular. The response of my party was "let's come here every year at Christmas".

 

[DanBoris]

This would be my future of DHS 'dream' plan -

The area you have marked as Star Wars Expansion and Future Marvel Resort are both consided unsuitable for construction in the RDIC Master Plan. Yes, they could build there if they really wanted to but the preference is not to.

 

[Spacedog1975]

The area you have marked as Star Wars Expansion and Future Marvel Resort are both consided unsuitable for construction in the RDIC Master Plan. Yes, they could build there if they really wanted to but the preference is not to.

Interesting. Is there much land that is marked as suitable? I would think that the long plan for DHS would require expansion.

 

[Rocketeer53]

Would is be a Marvel resort? Or would still go against the no Marvel within 250 miles of IOA?

Why not some sort of Star Wars resort with it's own entrance into DHS like they have with Grand Californian and DCA.

 

[Disco]

If you look at DHS on google maps, there is room to the east of the park, south of the parking lot. They can build a new road around the expansion.

I figure it would also take over Indy Jones Stunt Show, Streets of America, the Muppets area, Pizza Planet/Mama Melrose's, and Sci-Fi Dine-In Theater.

NOOooOoOOOOoooo! Not the Sci-Fi Dine-In Theater!

 

[Spacedog1975]

I can't see Muppets or Mama Melrose going anywhere.

 

[PinGirl]

Great ideas Everyone!

WDW is a natural for Star Wars Land - it would attract people to Disney who don't even like the parks just to see what is there.

If they had a Star Wars themed DVC it would sell out faster than anything they have ever sold. And the Hotel bar and restaurant would have to be Cantina style with people in costume.

Fun!

 

[mvk]

The area you have marked as Star Wars Expansion and Future Marvel Resort are both consided unsuitable for construction in the RDIC Master Plan. Yes, they could build there if they really wanted to but the preference is not to.

Well, the Marvel Resort is out of the equation anyway with the contract with Universal, I assume. I think they could/would take the little parcel to expand the park slightly to the east, doesn't seem like too much land taken from what is deemed conservation.

As for Muppets, I think they can move that to another area of the park, maybe to one of the 'studio' buildings behind Pixar Place or the Animation Courtyard.

I don't know what they would do with the OFSOL, I'm sure they can find another place to put it in, maybe as part of Disney Springs or something. Star Wars Galaxy/Land is going to need room, and unfortunately areas that don't produce much in terms of revenue are going to be utilized. To me, that means Indy Jones, Streets of America, and the area surrounding the Muppets 3D.

I guess it is possible that they keep all of that and utilize the area that I marked as future CarsLand solely for Star Wars, and move Star Tours over there, but I'd think they want keep that area available for more expansion in the future, so that maybe once the 'newness' of CarsLand in DCA wears off a bit, it could finally come east.

 

[StarWarsJez]

Disney should divert all the time, money and attention they're currently spending on Avatarland and spend it on Star Wars land.

...oh wait, That doesn't actually mean much does it

Seriously - id LOVE a Star Wars land but given the speed Disney seems to work at I'll be a pensioner before its finished!

 

[DanBoris]

Interesting. Is there much land that is marked as suitable? I would think that the long plan for DHS would require expansion.

There is a good sized suitable chunk of land on the other side of World Drive from DHS that could be used. If nothing else they could move parking an support buildings over there to free up expansion space. They could also convert the DHS parking lots into garages which would free up space.

You can see a map of land suitability on page 2B-20 of this document:
http://rcid.org/Portals/0/Documents/Comprehensive_Plan/2020_Comprehensive_Plan.pdf

Well, the Marvel Resort is out of the equation anyway with the contract with Universal, I assume. I think they could/would take the little parcel to expand the park slightly to the east, doesn't seem like too much land taken from what is deemed conservation.

The contract talks about theme park rights and a "retail concept" that Marvel was conisdering developing but it doesn't really say anything about a themed hotel. I think this could be a grey area in the contract.

 

[mvk]

There is a good sized suitable chunk of land on the other side of World Drive from DHS that could be used. If nothing else they could move parking an support buildings over there to free up expansion space. They could also convert the DHS parking lots into garages which would free up space.

You can see a map of land suitability on page 2B-20 of this document:
http://rcid.org/Portals/0/Documents/Comprehensive_Plan/2020_Comprehensive_Plan.pdf



The contract talks about theme park rights and a "retail concept" that Marvel was conisdering developing but it doesn't really say anything about a themed hotel. I think this could be a grey area in the contract.

From what you posted in the other thread, I take the part below to mean no resort/hotel -

iii. No The Marvel Action Universe shall be in or marketed in conjunction with any themed entertainment areas owned, operated or marketed by Disney, Time-Warner, Six Flags, Sony, Paramount or Busch. As used herein, “theme park” and “themed entertainment areas” shall not include, inter alia, facilities or complexes where at least 70% of the revenues generated on the premises are derived from retail sales or whose primary source of revenue is lodging (which may include food, beverage and gaming revenues).

Though it seems a little confusing with the wording in bold. Does that mean they could build a resort as long as 70% of revenues are derived from lodging and retail sales?

 

[Cafeen]

Though it seems a little confusing with the wording in bold. Does that mean they could build a resort as long as 70% of revenues are derived from lodging and retail sales?

While far from being an expert, I read it as "It can't be a location that makes up to 70% by retail or primarily by lodging". Seems to pretty much exclude a resort (primary resource = lodging).

Would be very difficult to get a resort through that clause without some very funky work by the lawyers.

If, somehow, they could make a location that derived most of the revenue from something other than food, lodging, retail, and gaming...it may work. I can't think of a single example where that'd be the case though. (Marvel Office Building? heh)